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Bonneville Salt Flats Discussion => Bonneville General Chat => Topic started by: 2fast4u2c on May 23, 2004, 12:57:00 PM
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Tiger Racing will be giving out $500.00 to the Fastest Nitrous Only Motorcycle at the end of the Maxton Season.
Who so ever is the fastest Nitrous only bike at Maxton at the end of this years season, will inherit a check for $500.00
That's right, $500.00 , so you better get your tune-ups done and your bottles filled, because Nitrous Land Speed Racing ain't for panty waist riders or machines.
Jim Owens of Norway, Mi., on his ZX-12 already took $250.00 of my money, anyone else feel lucky this year?
Of course, I plan on paying myself but stranger things can happen. Just ask Jim on his green machine.
Sorry, no turbo's or Turbo Nitrous, Just straight Nitrous bikes need come and play.
Guy
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Thats pretty generous guy....
Jon
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I wonder if Joe could take the turbo off and retune and get the bike out to Maxton and back -- for $500? Nah, probably not.
We're going to Maxton to watch and volunteer this weekend (29-30 May) and also to check out the speeds it'll take to put that check in my bank account this fall.
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Make sure you stop by and say hello. I want very much to help support and promote LSR in all venues. Turbo's are fast becoming the fastest thing on 2 wheels. But I just love the juice. I can ride my big bore motor around all day long and press a button when I feel like it and go fast. I'm hoping that 230 can be achieved using N2O. I'm sure if I can break 226, I'll put Joe's record to bed. I'm feeling lucky, see you at Maxton.
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Had a Great time, ran a 221 so I had to change my signture.
Guy
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real men and women maintain their
speeds for a "minumum" of 5280 ft (not 60 or 120 ft)
on 1/3 the traction of pavement
"bring it" to the salt, lets see the
bottle for 3-5 miles, and peak speeds for 1-3 miles
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Sounds tough Joe , methinks I'll give it a go , gee's I will even try out some tried and proven nitrous parts from some guy thats already been there and done that LOL as this box of neat stuff turned up on my doorstep last week , now I only have 9 months to wait to try it out
Gary
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Don't worry Joe, your 226 one way is still safe. Your right about the vigors of the salt, it's brutal I hear. But I do like the constant full 1 mile of traction where your machine can show you what it's got in a hurry. Why don't you bring yourself to Maxton and feel real torque and traction for a full mile. As far as real men and women are concerned, I'm sure it's fun to coast to a stop on the salt rather than braking hard from 200+ in just 2,600 feet which is the other half of the battle at Maxton. But since I've never done the salt, I'll never know the fun in coasting.
Good luck at your next event.
Guy
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And this discussioin, gentlemen, reminds me of why I like to race at both venues. Each has it's own fun, I get to gather it both ways.
I look foward to seeing you in a couple of months, Joe -- and Guy, I have every intention of showing up for the June Maxton "Bonneville Tune-up" event. Maybe I'll take you up on the offer of your bottle valve protectors.
Jon
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Originally posted by Seldom Seen Slim:
And this discussioin, gentlemen, reminds me of why I like to race at both venues. Each has it's own fun, I get to gather it both ways.
I look foward to seeing you in a couple of months, Joe -- and Guy, I have every intention of showing up for the June Maxton "Bonneville Tune-up" event. Maybe I'll take you up on the offer of your bottle valve protectors.
Jon
I will not be able to attend June, so if you will e-mail me your address, I'll send some to you.
Guy
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Thanks Guy, I enjoy pursuing SPEED,
not decelleration
and remember when you are reaching peak
velocity at Maxton and you shut off, a Bonneville guy JUST began their FIRST timed mile...
love ya
Joe :)
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Love you too Joe,
Go Fast!
Guy
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Originally posted by 2fast4u2c:
But since I've never done the salt, I'll never know the fun in coasting.
Coasting is safe and relaxing, why squeeze on the brakes hard and scream like a little girl??
No pun directed..
Jon
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I gotta lot of respect for
those Maxton people, an AWESOME
VENUE
the salt is cool too
its all good, life is good
Joe :)
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they may be faster for 120 feet, not for 5280 ft
have to compare apples to apples, meaning,
bring the nitrous king of maxton to the salt
max power, max speed, nitrous flowing for 5280 ft
vs 120 ft, some may find it a bit different
Maxton is a COOL venue, make no mistake, its own
unique awesome venue, and opportunity to go fast
Joe :)
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Originally posted by joea:
they may be faster for 120 feet, not for 5280 ft
have to compare apples to apples, meaning,
bring the nitrous king of maxton to the salt
max power, max speed, nitrous flowing for 5280 ft
vs 120 ft, some may find it a bit different
Maxton is a COOL venue, make no mistake, its own
unique awesome venue, and opportunity to go fast
Joe :)
Joe, you are mistaken when you say we are only on the juice for 120ft. Yes, it is true that we are measured at both 132' and 66' then at 0'. But on a 24 second run, I am on the Nitrous for 19 of those seconds. But you are correct, Maxton is not the Salt and vice-verse. Your 1-way record of 226mph is and always will be a feat never repeated. You did that all on a 1000cc machine, totally incredible. But if you want to compare aples to apples we can't. You run the Salt, and I love the concrete. Suffice to say, what ever records I am blessed to survive here at Maxton are just that, records at Maxton and they can not be compared to the Salt. But speed is speed, the sooner you can achieve it, the more HP you were able to stick to the track. My 1 mile of concrete traction can not be compared to the lack of traction of 5 miles at the Salt. So when I do break your 223 mph average and your 226mph 1-way record, it will have been done with a 200+lb rider in just 1 mile and it will be a 1 mile record at Maxton. Not a Bonneville record. I'll still be faster, but our methods to achieve that speed will be the only difference.
So bring the nitrous king of Bonneville to Maxton and enjoy the traction. You can even get in 6 - 12 runs on a Saturday, you know, for the practice.
Guy
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right on Guy, cool stuff
but remember, at Bonneville we are on the
nitrous for the majority of 2 miles before
we are even to the first timed miles,
and usually then maintain the speed for the
next 2-3 miles, so around 3-4 miles on nitrous
take your 19 seconds which would be about what
it would take to get you up to speed, then at least double it to get you through the first timed mile, and likely triple it to get you through the second timed mile, and if you still didnt get enough traction, or need more toom, quadruple it to get you down the entire Bonneville course
Joe :)
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Just remember not to come out of the crouch after the 5 mile too soon while yer "coastin" :D
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if "coastin" is going in and
out of ruts made by big hp
cars, at over 220, then yes,
thats the easy part of running
Bonneville
Joe
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Well joe and Guy you could both come to lake Gairdner in Aus where you run the salt and get 20+ runs a day if you want, best of both worlds , but ssshhh don't tell everyone LOL
personaly nothing beats running mile after mile at speed potently habit forming :)
Gary
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Ah, gentlemen, thank you very much. I've now heard two very different methods of nitrous application - from what I, a brand-newcomer to the sport of "pushing the button", have done. I'm still new enough that I've only lost one motor to the bottle.
One run at Maxton - the first nitrous in my life - so I'll look forward to making more runs there and seeing if it was just luck - or a serious way to go faster, faster.
And then there' s Bville, where I learned the art of holding the button for a mile and a half and was rewarded with 1 1/2 miles of wheelspin last fall.
I'll figger it out soon. Thanks for the stories on your experience.
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Originally posted by joea:
if "coastin" is going in and
out of ruts made by big hp
cars, at over 220, then yes,
thats the easy part of running
Bonneville
Joe
I stand corrected on the art of coasting.
Guy