There are a ton of legendary records set at Bonneville.
Poteet and Main at 437 this year. Unbelievable.
A few years ago the Buddfab motorcycle streamliner running 131 on 3 freakin cubic inches.
But this isn’t about this.
The were something like 146 new records set - but strangely enough, 96 or so were by bikes and the rest by cars/trucks. The usual is just the opposite of that -- lots more car records than bikes. n I don't know why there's a difference and none was offered.
Slim said that two days before the end of the meet. I count 109 bike records.
It’s because 29 of the records were bought. As soon as they paid the entry fee and ran on an open record.
But that’s not all.
I understand this. It’s called cherry picking. You find an open record or a slow record and run for it. But it’s hardly competitive. I give everybody credit for coming out and setting a record. It’s not the easiest thing to do, even on an open record.
Except for the guys resetting the 650 P-P record , Every record set had a faster record in a slower category.
Analysis:
fuel – faster than gas
blown – faster than unblown
partial streamlined – faster than unstreamlined
streamliner – faster than partial streamlined
bigger cc – faster than smaller cc
sidecar – well . . . sidecar. Numbers way out of proportion to the real world.
pushrod/vintage – because pushrod/vintage
37 pushrod records
39 vintage records
17 sidecar records
39 blown records
29 open records
40 under 100 mph (50cc unstreamlined gas record 85 mph - 29 didn’t even make that.)
Most a combination of the above
Only 8 without one of the above.
3 were in the same class and re-setting the record. 4 others ditto.
Fastest 25 analyzed. The rest don’t break the pattern.
Veh | Entry Name | Engine | Body | No handicap | Pushrod | Vintage | Sidecar | Blown | No record | Old Record | New Record | Driver Name | Comment | 8269B | Jim Hoogerhyde / SFMC | 1000CC | APS-F | x | | | | | | 221.583 | 222.850 | Suzuki | 239 gas record | 1648B | San Diego Motorcycles | 1000CC | APS-F | x | | | | | | 221.583 | 222.756 | | 239 gas record | 8269B | Jim Hoogerhyde / SFMC | 1000CC | APS-F | x | | | | | | 218.323 | 221.583 | Suzuki | 239 gas record | 3419B | Scott Guthrie Racing | 2000CC | APS-BF | | | | | x | x | 0.000 | 220.595 | Suzuki | 236 unblown | 3411B | Scott Guthrie Racing | 1650CC | SC-G | | | | x | | | 175.481 | 218.420 | Suzuki | 226 partial streamlined | 3418B | Scott Guthrie Racing | 2000CC | APS-BG | | | | | x | | 170.465 | 215.813 | Suzuki | 252 unblown | 8081B | Costella/Cunha/Bassano | 650CC | SCS-F | | | | x | | x | 0.000 | 197.036 | Tim Cunha | Without the sidecar would be running against a 1962 230 mph record. | 3399B | Team Bennett LSR | 1650CC | APS-PG | | x | | | | | 172.591 | 196.843 | H/D | 226 non pushrod | 3414B | Scott Guthrie Racing | 2000CC | A-BG | | | | | x | | 134.428 | 190.736 | Suzuki | 197 unblown record | 1016B | Destination / Huff | 1350CC | APS-PG | | x | | | | | 177.998 | 184.464 | HD/Buell | 219 non pushrod | 1016B | Destination / Huff | 1350CC | APS-PG | | x | | | | | 184.464 | 181.397 | Buell | 219 non pushrod | 2931B | Paul Friebus | 1000CC | MPS-VBG | | | x | | x | | 167.944 | 180.659 | H/D | 182 unblown unstreamlined | 8080B | Costella/Cunha/Bassano | 650CC | SCS-G | | | | x | | x | 0.000 | 176.547 | Suzuki | 196 partial streamlined 210 streamliner. | 6661B | Stoney Fritz | UNLIM | A-PBG | | x | | | x | x | 0.000 | 174.742 | Yamaha | 171 unblown 650 record | 5154B | Team Subtle Crowbar | 1350CC | MPS-PG | | x | | | | | 172.479 | 173.163 | Moto Guzzi | 223 non pushrod | 2469B | Jay Allen Racing | 2000CC | A-PG | | x | | | | | 169.966 | 172.414 | S & S Cycle | 197 non pushrod | 1021B | Shunji Yokokawa | 650CC | P-P | x | | | | | | 169.684 | 170.821 | Honda | 1.137 mph over record * These guys were racing! | 858B | ACAT / Butler / Erion / Hobbs | 650CC | P-P | x | | | | | | 169.684 | 170.654 | Honda | .970 mph over the record - see above * | 858B | ACAT / Butler / Erion / Hobbs | 650CC | P-P | x | | | | | | 167.319 | 169.684 | Honda | 2.365 mph bumped record see above * | 2169B | Jay Allen Racing | 2000CC | A-PF | | x | | | | | 169.309 | 169.330 | S & S | 201 non pushrod | 931B | Paul Friebus | 1000CC | MPS-VBF | | | x | | x | x | 0.000 | 168.652 | H/D | 195 unblown unstreamlined | 2931B | Paul Friebus | 1000CC | MPS-VBG | | | x | | x | | 145.410 | 167.944 | H/D | 182 unblown unstreamlined | 858B | ACAT / Butler / Erion / Hobbs | 650CC | P-P | x | | | | | | 165.994 | 167.319 | Honda | 1.325 over record - see above * | 9876B | Speranza Brant Robinson | 2000CC | SC-PF | | x | | x | | | 146.196 | 162.424 | Total Performance | 214 non sidecar pushrod | 1350B | Bonneville Bobber | 1350CC | M-VBF | | | x | | x | x | 0.000 | 159.420 | H/D | | 810B | Zen Motorcycle | 1350CC | M-PBG | | x | | | x | | 155.897 | 158.642 | H/D | | 1581B | Jim Leininger | 650CC | APS-PF | | x | | | | | 128.231 | 156.389 | Honda | | 3358B | Bonneville Bobber | 1350CC | MPS-VBG | | | x | | x | x | 0.000 | 152.622 | H/D | | 4451B | Bob Lewis | 1350CC | M-VG | | | x | | | | 149.496 | 152.456 | H/D | | 9011B | Double Vision | 1350CC | APS-VF | | | x | | | | 135.438 | 151.448 | Triumph | | 445B | Bob Lewis | 1350CC | MPS-VG | | | x | | | | 110.801 | 150.998 | H/D | | 3350B | Bonneville Bobber | 1350CC | M-VBG | | | x | | x | x | 0.000 | 150.548 | H/D | | 632B | LeTop-Baloo Racing Team | 500CC | MPS-BG | | | | | x | | 143.298 | 149.800 | Kawasaki | | 1358B | Bonneville Bobber | 1350CC | MPS-VBF | | | x | | x | x | 0.000 | 149.676 | H/D | | 4451B | Bob Lewis | 1350CC | M-VG | | | x | | | | 101.955 | 149.496 | H/D | | 7134B | Performance Indian | 1350CC | A-VG | | | x | | | | 132.338 | 148.012 | Indian | | 632B | LeTop-Baloo Racing Team | 500CC | MPS-BG | | | | | x | | 120.507 | 143.298 | Kawasaki | | 901B | Double Vision | 1350CC | APS-VG | | | x | | | | 128.241 | 140.210 | Triumph | | 3931B | Paul Friebus | 1000CC | MPS-VG | | | x | | | | 126.059 | 139.048 | H/D | | 797B | Dan Wagner | 650CC | MPS-PF | | x | | | | | 133.998 | 135.891 | Honda | | 1580B | Marc Leininger | 650CC | A-PF | | x | | | | | 167.542 | 134.849 | Honda | | 1110B | Scott Guthrie Racing | 750CC | P-PPB | | x | | | x | x | 0.000 | 133.625 | Honda | | 1602B | Corey Bertelsen | 250CC | SC-G | | | | x | | | 120.016 | 133.324 | Honda | | 2602B | Corey Bertelsen | 250CC | SC-F | | | | x | | | 125.101 | 133.305 | Honda | | 3413B | Scott Guthrie Racing | 750CC | M-PBF | | x | | | x | | 129.937 | 133.133 | Honda | | 3412B | Scott Guthrie Racing | 750CC | M-PBG | | x | | | x | | 129.134 | 131.298 | Honda | | 1582B | Jim Leininger | 650CC | A-PG | | x | | | | | 126.976 | 130.713 | Honda | | 1102B | Scott Guthrie Racing | 750CC | A-PBG | | x | | | x | | 111.791 | 130.208 | Honda | | 1141B | Anders Jonsson | 650CC | APS-PF | | x | | | | | 128.231 | 130.181 | GSO | | 1114B | Scott Guthrie Racing | 750CC | A-PBF | | x | | | x | | 111.791 | 128.822 | Honda | | 7734B | Red Cup Screamer | 250CC | MPS-BG | | | | | x | | 99.445 | 127.714 | Yamaha | | 1134B | Red Cup Screamer | 250CC | M-BG | | | | | x | | 98.475 | 126.607 | Yamaha | | 735B | Dave Arnold | 1000CC | M-PBF | | x | | | x | | 125.922 | 126.231 | H/D | | 209B | JXN Racing | 350CC | MPS-BF | | | | | x | | 115.015 | 123.115 | Joel Jackson | | 7919B | Bill Anderson | 650CC | SC-PG | | x | | x | | | 121.042 | 121.553 | Weslake | | 837B | JXN Racing | 350CC | MPS-BG | | | | | x | | 102.643 | 121.178 | Yamaha | | 867B | JXN Racing | 350CC | M-BG | | | | | x | | 100.294 | 120.097 | Yamaha | | 969B | JXN Racing | 350CC | M-BF | | | | | x | x | 0.000 | 119.103 | Yamaha | | 330B | Louis Wilson | 350CC | MPS-BF | | | | | x | x | 0.000 | 115.015 | Yamaha | | 9317B | Paul Friebus | 500CC | A-VF | | | x | | | | 110.729 | 111.839 | H/D | | 4997B | Saline Turner KTC | 500CC | A-VF | | | x | | | | 110.152 | 110.729 | Triumph | | 194B | George Nachtsheim | 650CC | APS-PBG | | x | | | x | | 98.873 | 110.352 | Triumph | | 1189B | Brooks Motor Works | 500CC | SC-VG | | | x | x | | | 94.333 | 106.719 | BMW | | 865B | Ecole De La Performance | 350CC | A-VF | | | x | | | | 105.454 | 106.622 | AMC | | 665B | Bullet | 650CC | P-PP | | x | | | | | 106.490 | 106.601 | BMW | | 8608B | Ecole De La Performance | 350CC | A-VG | | | x | | | | 88.830 | 105.673 | AMC | | 740B | Pit Bull | 175CC | P-P | x | | | | | | 99.700 | 104.449 | Honda | 105 mph 125cc record | 8658B | Ecole De La Performance | 350CC | APS-VF | | | x | | | | 97.511 | 101.812 | AMC | | 5778B | Kamphuis Frank Z | 350CC | APS-PBG | | x | | | x | x | 0.000 | 98.873 | Buell | | 5777B | Kamphuis Auntmaria | 350CC | A-PBF | | x | | | x | x | 0.000 | 97.964 | Buell | | 370B | OMRA Bike #1 | 1650CC | A-PBF | | x | | | x | x | 0.000 | 97.916 | H/D | | 1803B | Goldwing Lyon Kubo | 2000CC | SC-BG | | | | x | x | | 87.947 | 97.264 | Honda | | 5779B | Kamphuis Lanapottr | 350CC | A-PBG | | x | | | x | | 15.851 | 96.975 | Buell | | 5771B | Kamphuis TL Kelly | 350CC | APS-PBF | | x | | | x | x | 0.000 | 93.474 | Buell | | 7865B | Ecole De La Performance | 250CC | A-VF | | | x | | | | 86.715 | 92.221 | AMC | | 1476B | Tri-Mac-Speedsters | 100CC | APS-BF | | | | | x | | 48.910 | 91.659 | Yamaha | | 1856B | Richard Krczal | 750CC | SC-PG | | x | | x | | | 90.843 | 91.286 | Triumph | | 8688B | Ecole De La Performance | 350CC | APS-VG | | | x | | | | 81.903 | 86.818 | AMC | | 876B | Canter / Rosenthal Racing | 250CC | MPS-PF | | x | | | | | 80.758 | 85.816 | Aermacchi | | 476B | Tri-Mac Speedsters | 100CC | APS-BG | | | | | x | | 81.869 | 84.533 | Yamaha | | 576B | Darold Cummings | 175CC | APS-PG | | x | | | | | 71.319 | 84.476 | Gilera | | 376B | Bonneville Bantam | 125CC | APS-VG | | | x | | | | 79.220 | 84.440 | BSA | | 579B | Darold Cummings | 175CC | APS-PF | | x | | | | | 76.418 | 84.324 | Gilera | | 8761B | Canter & Rosenthal Racing | 250CC | M-PF | | x | | | | | 79.198 | 83.148 | H/D | | 3751B | Bonneville Bantam | 125CC | MPS-VF | | | x | | | | 61.327 | 82.494 | BSA | | 621B | Brooks Motor Works | 250CC | MPS-VF | | | x | | | x | 0.000 | 82.486 | BMW | | 571B | Darold Cummings | 175CC | A-PG | | x | | | | | 72.285 | 80.453 | Gilera | | 536B | Sportsman Flyer | 250CC | A-PF | | x | | | | | 78.048 | 80.438 | Honda | | 376B | Bonneville Bantam | 125CC | APS-VG | | | x | | | x | 0.000 | 79.220 | BSA | | 375B | Bonneville Bantam | 125CC | MPS-VG | | | x | | | | 42.239 | 79.059 | BSA | | 4158B | Brooks Motor Works | 350CC | SC-VG | | | x | x | | | 48.879 | 78.428 | BMW | | 1627B | Brooks Motor Works | 350CC | SC-VF | | | x | x | | | 68.241 | 78.318 | BMW | | 679B | John Stoner/No Sense LSR | 175CC | M-BF | | | | | x | x | 0.000 | 75.828 | Honda | | 375B | Bonneville Bantam | 125CC | MPS-VG | | | x | | | | 42.239 | 75.106 | BSA | | 574B | Darold Cummings | 175CC | SC-PF | | x | | x | | | 68.358 | 75.009 | Gilera | | 474B | Darold Cummings | 175CC | SC-PG | | x | | x | | | 68.661 | 74.175 | Gilera | | 6779B | John Stoner/No Sense Land Speed Racing | 175CC | MPS-BF | | | | | x | x | 0.000 | 73.086 | Honda | | 540B | Scott Baxter | 350CC | SC-VF | | | x | x | | x | 0.000 | 68.241 | BSA | | 823B | Prairie Drifters | 125CC | MPS-VF | | | x | | | | 57.533 | 61.327 | H/D | | 823B | Prairie Drifters | 125CC | MPS-VF | | | x | | | x | 0.000 | 57.533 | H/D | | 3523B | Sac Speed Special | 125CC | M-VG | | | x | | | | 43.449 | 52.353 | H/D | | 7052B | Retarded Sparks Special | 175CC | M-VF | | | x | | | x | 0.000 | 50.049 | H/D | | 7053B | Retarded Sparks Special | 175CC | MPS-VG | | | x | | | x | 0.000 | 49.727 | H/D | | 3286B | Bmac LSR | 125CC | MPS-BG | | | | | | x | 999.999 | 45.526 | Honda | | 1962B | Saline Tyson KTC | 100CC | APS-VF | | | x | | | x | 999.999 | 42.179 | AMC | | 286B | BMAC LSR | 125CC | MPS-BF | | | | | x | x | 0.000 | 40.357 | Honda | | 1960B | Saline Tyson KTC | 100CC | SC-VG | | | x | x | | x | 0.000 | 36.744 | AMC | | 7960B | Saline Tyson KTC | 100CC | SC-VF | | | x | x | | x | 0.000 | 30.469 | AMC |
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