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Bonneville Salt Flats Discussion => World of Speed-specific stuff => Topic started by: USFRAMONTE on April 20, 2022, 09:51:29 AM
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We currently have just over 40 entries for the July Test & Tune. We need somewhere between 15 and 20 additional entries to make this happen. If any of you have been waiting until the last minute, we are fast approaching that time.
We have been checking the camera on the salt and can see pressure ridges starting to form, (that is a good sign).
Let us know if you have not already registered. This will be a good start to the racing season.
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I figured at the start that it might be a bit of a stretch to find 60 entrants for the TnT & thought 40-ish was a more likely number but if we get close but not close enough, how do other entrants feel about making up the extra money to make it happen?
In this day & age it's only about the cost of filling up your tank per entrant!
I'm a broke-a$$ poor-boy but I'd put in another cuppla hundred bucks!
Sid.
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I called Thursday , they have enough to have TEST n TUNE , VERY GOOD , it's about time !!! STEVE
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I called Thursday , they have enough to have TEST n TUNE , VERY GOOD , it's about time !!! STEVE
GOOD NEWS :cheers: JL222
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I might have one day to attend Test and Tune as a spectator. I would love to show my wife what it is all about. I'm a USFRA member so can my wife and I come take a look. Will race in September. I would come only on the 10th. Will there still be a bunch of racers like Target 550 still there or do you think everyone will be packing up and leaving.
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You can't tell what happens when someone doesn't perform as well as they wished, or broke. Most pack up and go home. There's no telling the numbers.
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We had our monthly club meeting last night. We are happy to announce that the July Test and Tune is officially on. Inspections will start on the 7th. Racing will begin the 8th and run through the 10th. Depending on how many vehicles are still making runs, we anticipate that we will stop running mid-day on the 10th.
It will be layed out as the standard 5 mile course. The pits will however be set up very close to the starting line. No record runs will be made, but there will be licensing runs as well as qualifying for the long course. We are trying to do this in a way to save money, so as a result, there will be no fuel available on the salt. No food vendors, or AM radio broadcast.
We will have security, ambulance, fire, Honey Buckets, garbage dumpster and a painted line down the center of the course.
We will send out more information as we get closer to the date as well as updates on salt conditions.
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The painted line gives me hope. Man am I going to love knowing where the track is :-)
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The track generally lies between the cones and includes blue side lines.
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We just want to let everyone know that the Test & Tune is a go. As always we will have to see what Mother Nature has to say about it. We will be on the salt on Thursday July 7th for inspections and will start racing on Friday the 8th and run through Sunday the 10th.
See you there.
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The SCTA-BNI Facebook page states that they've been out on the Salt for the last two days getting ready for Speedweek, and that "It truly is like a freeway." Hopefully that will hold for a couple more weeks so we can get in a great Test & Tune! See you there!
Jeff in Boise
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Dennis and I just got back from a visit to the salt this morning. The BNI folks have been doing some dragging and the salt looks good. The dry conditions seem to have helped and it is hard and pretty smooth.
Jason and I will be going back out next weekend to do additional course prep for the T&T. I will post another update next weekend.
Be safe and have a great July 4th holiday.
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Thank you,,,,,,for your assistance, and the up dates ! Sometimes,,, a little "Thank You" can feel pretty good ! Crow,, Bend in the Road Gang.
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Hey Monte.... What do you think about a curved line from center line to middle of exit roads?
JL222
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Hey Monte.... What do you think about a curved line from center line to middle of exit roads?
JL222
I have thought about that since last year. I will give that a try. For the T&T we will just spray a center line only on the course and there will be fewer turnouts. We are trying to keep the costs down to a minimum, so I think this will be a good way to try a new curved line from the center of the course to the turnout.
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What are the tech inspection requirements for "Test & Tune"? What about "Time Only"? The Rule Book does not address this as far as I have found.
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What are the tech inspection requirements for "Test & Tune"? What about "Time Only"? The Rule Book does not address this as far as I have found.
Neil, the safety inspection process is the same for T&T as World of Speed or Speedweek. The T&T runs are essentially time only runs as there will be no record certifers on site. A few of the racers need a chance to get some runs in for licenses or as shake down passes for new builds or extensive changes to existing vehicles. There is no limit to the number runs you can make and with the small number of entries you can practically make laps if you want.
We would love to see you there.
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What are the tech inspection requirements for "Test & Tune"? What about "Time Only"? The Rule Book does not address this as far as I have found.
Neil, the safety inspection process is the same for T&T as World of Speed or Speedweek. The T&T runs are essentially time only runs as there will be no record certifers on site. A few of the racers need a chance to get some runs in for licenses or as shake down passes for new builds or extensive changes to existing vehicles. There is no limit to the number runs you can make and with the small number of entries you can practically make laps if you want.
We would love to see you there.
Thank you, Monte.
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Jason and I spent today on the salt doing track prep for the T&T.
The salt is in very nice condition. It is as hard and smooth as I have seen in many
years.
It is very smooth all the way to the 5 1/2, then gets a little bumpy from there out to the end. We have groomed 8 1/4 miles total. The guys at Structural Steel in North Salt Lake built two new drags for us this year. They work incredibly well. When you see Ron, Shane and the others in August, give them a hardy "Thank you".
I will post some photos tomorrow.
Wishing everyone a great July 4th and we will see some of you next week.
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Things are going well today. We have the track finished up, now onto the return road and turnouts.
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Thank you Monte, and happy 4th :cheers: -Dean
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The last 2 years have changed things on the salt. This is a situation I very rarely saw in past years.
I am quite frustrated with the BLM over this. People are having campfires all over the salt now. And they primarily use pallets as their wood source. Currently I would estimate there are over 50 of these in various locations across the flats.
They just leave all their garbage and charred remains behind. The fires turn the water in the salt to vapor and the whole fire pit then sinks into the crust. It leaves behind a rather deep depression. It has also left me depressed.
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Having trouble posting the photos. Give me a few minutes.
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I just had a great idea, Monte. Build a fire pit/ring about 50-75 feet from the pylon that we see in the view of the salt flats camera. Heck, put signs pointing to it: "Salt Flats Firepit this way" BUT don't tell anyone about the camera!
They'll do their dastardly duties in full view so we can nail 'em to the wall later. How's that sound? :clap :clap
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Maybe leave them a can of methanol, labeled: "Free fire starter fluid"? :evil:
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I just had a great idea, Monte. Build a fire pit/ring about 50-75 feet from the pylon that we see in the view of the salt flats camera. Heck, put signs pointing to it: "Salt Flats Firepit this way" BUT don't tell anyone about the camera!
They'll do their dastardly duties in full view so we can nail 'em to the wall later. How's that sound? :clap :clap
Good idea. I spoke with Ellen yesterday about this. She said the BLM is fully aware of the situation. Their remedy..... they said if we (USFRA) would clean the mess up, they would provide a dumpster to facilitate the effort. They then put the dumpster at the bend in the road.
Once I get home, I will resize the photos and get them uploaded. My phone acts up when I try to resize.
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Nails from the burned pallet.
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This is the fire pit I recovered some of the nails from.
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There is no way I could clean up all these messes by myself.
Who does this kind of thing??
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They think it is cool to spin around the course marking cones.
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This is the remains of a truck tire they burned. It has really buried itself into the surface. I tried to dig it out with a shovel, didn't even touch it.
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Well apparently the supply chain issue in this country has had absolutely no effect on the inventory of arse-holes available.
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There have always been way more horse's asses than horses!!
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Put a bounty on them and tell the coon ass they are out of season and the will drive up and take care of the problem
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I'm surprised this is now a problem on the salt. It's years old at El Mirage with the nails.
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stay safe....go fast
we will see us at the WoS
:clap :clap :clap
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Should start running in a few hours. We've got a few potentially very fast cars here: Target 550 (now un-blown) is here, along with Jim Knapp's (now A/BFS) streamliner, and the Burkdoll C/FS. Kiwi Belly Tank brought his new AA/BFS in late yesterday. It has electronic problems and won't run, but we'll be doing Tech on it today after the driver's meeting. I'll try to post any significant developments later.
Jeff from Boise
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Hey Jeff, without pictures it never happened... :?
Please fill in some of the visual gaps for those of us still trying to get our junk ready for SpeedWeek.
:cheers:
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Thank you Jeff,,,,,, from the Bend in the Road Gang ! Have a good event !
:cheers:
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Hey Jeff, without pictures it never happened... :?
Please fill in some of the visual gaps for those of us still trying to get our junk ready for SpeedWeek.
:cheers:
I don't think I'll be very busy with Tech inspections tomorrow -= I'll try to get some pictures then.
Jeff from Boise
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So Marlo is now going for Danny's record..Les knows nitro.
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The good news: since we had inspected all the vehicles which were registered, I returned to Boise this morning. The bad news: no pictures, sorry.
Even better news: salt appeared to be very good (dry, hard, and smooth) when I drove down it after the Driver's Meeting on Friday. It was a bit rougher starting at the 5-1/2, but not bad. They dragged it out to the 8-1/2. We were advised that this course is the same one that will be this year's Long Course for Speedweek.
I can tell you that there were no high-speed runs on Friday - they actually were testing and tuning! I spoke with Jim Knapp. Jim Burkdoll (youngest son, Tim Burkdoll, driving), and Korey Bligh (Target 550 Crew Chief) before I left this morning and all were pleased with their shakedown runs. The 711 roadster sounded great, too!
Jeff back in Boise
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:fridayThanks again for the up-dates.
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Thanks Jeff :cheers:
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Did Knapp get his liner to run?
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Curious to know how the Target 550 and Eddie's Chop Shop cars did. Thanks in advance for any updates!
Tim
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Returned home from the Test & Tune last night. Plenty of warm weather as well as wind. However since it was not a record event most of the competitors chose to keep running regardless of the wind conditions.
There were no real high speed runs made as each entrant was there to test, tune, practice and experiment. The Target 550 made four runs and Marlo seemed happy with the results, especially the fact that the car did not have any mechanical failures. The Knappster made two runs. Timmy Burkdoll qualified for an A license. Several others got in the required license runs. Vehicles were made to run better and many electrical and mechanical issues sorted out.
I will leave it up to any competitors to let you know any more specifics.
The USFRA expresses thanks to those that participated and helped. We had some benefactors that stepped up to help cover the costs of hosting the event. A special thanks to those that did, as you know who you are, but wish to remain anonymous.
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Test and Tune 2022 was a success! Anyone taking advantage of this got all the passes they wanted and then some, If USFRA has this again I would highly encourage racers that want to shake down their cars out to attend. Thanks to all the USFRA workers that worked hard to put this meet on !
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Curious to know how the Target 550 and Eddie's Chop Shop cars did. Thanks in advance for any updates!
Tim
Ed Umland (Eddie's Chop Shop) wasn't there. As Monte said, they were pleased with Target 550, as it experienced no major problems. They didn't seem interested in speeds.
Jeff in Boise
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After the meet was over, Jason and I spent about 90 minutes driving around taking pictures and GPS coordinates of the areas of garbage and damage left behind by the tourists having their campfires on the salt. We were able to document over 20 locations.
During the Test & Tune, Drew from the BLM showed up. I spoke with him about the campfire issue. Dennis also spoke with him. He said that if we would take photos and provide the coordinates, he would send out some crews to clean things up.
We will see if they will do as Drew said.
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Anyone have some pics of the cars that were at the Test and Tune?? Especially Sid's new liner.
Rex
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Got these from Burton Brown so it does exist! :evil:
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Got these from Burton Brown so it does exist! :evil:
wow, what a fine looking thing. Can't wait to see it with paint
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Wow! I've waited a long time to see this! Just beautiful.
However, I'm having a hard time finding the "office". Please assist me.
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My first reaction: "Oh, my!"
Second: Yeah, Stan, you're right. Where does the operator sit?
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The Greyhound bus - ish side windows tell the story, the windshield is in the nose. Car is 35" wide & 31" high not counting the tail fins from an F-105 wing tank.
I got three things from the USFRA T&T, a really good inspection, a chassis number & Covid! :-( I think Speed Week is lost to me.
Sid.
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Thanks Woody and Burton! Cool looking piece, Sid.
Rex