UTAH ALLIANCE

[gas pumper]

Stainless1, exactly my view of this operation, too. Dilution is the solution for more extraction, not more salt returned.
Frank

[Dakin Engineering]

Robert,
  I would love to hear the explanations.

"ALL - Please note the frames released do not have the in-depth commentary provided by Dr. Bowen. All in the room were very impressed by her explains of the science side - there were not conclusions, simply a statement those areas currently under study - several of which were added because of input from the racing community.

I concur that the frames are not self-explanatory and were never meant to be so. The entire point here is to share data and info.

Thanks to some private tutoring time, I can explain all up to page 25, with more tutoring coming until I get the whole doc sorted. Dr. Bowen has been NOTHING but cooperative with the Utah Alliance an Save the Salt.

Please understand that I do not have time to answer every question from the LSR community, but I DO INTEND to be ready for nay questions from members of the US Congress and staff as we press forward with legislation to effect restorative change."

And that legislation;
How is it coming along?

Sam

[Toolman]

Has anyone been able to look at the contract the potash company has with the BLM to see wether their is a clause to return the processed salt back to the flats? If there is, we need to get to get the goverment officals involved. If there isn't, we still need to get our goverment leaders involved. The number one man we need to contact is Oren Hatch. Let the legislators in your state to contact Hatch about what is going on.

[Seldom Seen Slim]

If you haven't already seen it, check out the new letter from the UA to the BLM.  It's posted on the home page of this site.

[fordboy628]

If you haven't already seen it, check out the new letter from the UA to the BLM.  It's posted on the home page of this site.

Jon,

It is just: "Bureaucracy as usual"

Bureaucrats get paid the same, whether or not they accomplish anything . . . . . . . .

Why work?   Especially when you can get paid to do . . . . nothing . . . . and are beholden to a:  "Do Nothing Congress".

Reminds me of the 1980's . . . . . .

 

[velocity]

BLM Launches Investigation into Bonneville Salt Flats Surface Damage

Photos available at:  www.savethesalt.org


EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY

THE UTAH ALLIANCE WEBSITE WILL NO LONGER BE A SOURCE OF OFFICIAL UPDATES AND HAS BEEN SHIFTED TO AN ARCHIVE ONLY RESEARCH TOOL.

WWW.SAVETHESALT.ORG IS NOW THE ONLY WEBSITE WHERE OFFICIAL UPDATES WILL BE POSTED.

[crawford]

Well, thank god that, landspeed was out there to insure that the track is being taken care of, but to be honest all she did was to cause more problems than she solved, she is not a very productive member of the racing organizations in the eyes of Wendover, so I don't know why she feels that she have the power to change anything, first you need to be a leader, which she is not, second you at least need to be respected, which is a big question.  So the handling of the snow track on the flats could of handled alot better, but as long as she has any voice things can only get ........well not better!!!!!!       Mike crawford, mayor of Wendover Utah

[Stan Back]

She holds herself in high regard, though.

[joea]

...lets see...local mining industry significantly impacts the BSF in a NEGATIVE way...local politics
claims otherwise and gets miffed when folks point that out...

local paper last year in Wendover has front page article WHY SW cancelled
with commentary by local politician questioning the SCTA decision...meanwhile salt flooded
and not conducive to an event....

last year Cook Shootout puts out public message showing pics of extensive water and poor
conditions...praising BUB for cancellation of meet...local politician speaks out publicly stating "I cant for the life of me understand why they cancelled the meet...

USFRA produces explanation as to WHY their Test and Tune called off this year...d/t precarious wet fragile
areas near staging areas that very likely in their opinion may be adversely affected by the traffic
of a meet....local politician comes out publicly and says "...I dont understand why the meet cancelled "one only knows"...

representative of ALLIANCE to try to PROTECT AND SAVE the BSF....speaks out about another LOCAL
entity....significantly...adversely effecting the condition of the BSF....

and local politician gets miffed again...

I see a CLEAR pattern.....


ps and YES Mr. Crawford is a TREMENDOUS ASSET to the racing community, we are very fortunate to
have his lifelong assistance in Wendover...THANK YOU Mr. Crawford for all you do and have done for the LSR
community...we are sincerely grateful

but racing and putting on a LSR event takes different set of priorities and responsibilities .....

[Finallygotit]

subscribing

[Bob Drury]

  Mike, with all due respect, Louise reported facts while You are countering with YOUR opinion as is nothing more than that.  You seem to enjoy stirring the pot as much as helping Us out.  We support You and Your business but We don't necessarily have to.                  Bob

[jdincau]

I would have been nice if LSL had reported as to how in the spirit of mutual cooperation she went to the tow truck company and asked them to modify their behavior instead of just ratting them out to the BLM.

[Old Scrambler]

...............and however it was that had to be 'rescued' should pay for ALL DAMAGES

[Bob Drury]

  It must have been of some serious concern to Mike Cook or I cannot imagine why He would have shown it to Her.  Anyone who has even driven a vehicle over 200 mph knows that trying to identify "repaired" or wet spots on the course is nearly impossible at speed and when You go over them it can upset the balance (for lack of a better word) or feel of the vehicle as well as cause overreaction of the driver in the blink of a eye.
  This was a serious transgression of Public Property that could have resulted in injury to others.
  I have met the owner of the Towing Company and Used His services.  He is a nice guy but He has a serious (and possibly legitimate) grudge with the BLM after they billed Him for $6,000. for the damage He did to the Salt when He buried three Tow Trucks while trying to Yard that idiot Coddington's Circus Motorhome out of the Trench.  That is why He now (or at least when He told Me this in 2012) charges $600. minimum to leave the end of the road.
  As for You "Louise Haters", Most of You are like Me; old, grouchy, constipated and seeing too many Doctors. While I will be amongst the first to admit She can be brash, somewhat self serving and out spoken, She was chosen by the Utah Alliance to be their spokesperson to keep pressure on the BLM, Politicians and yes, the Media to help make the Public aware of the ongoing problems involved in saving both Our Race Courses and the National Protected Area useable for all.
  I would ask You bitch'ers one question:  what have each of You done to support Save the Salt and the Utah Alliance (as in money and volunteer work) in the last ten years?
                                                                                          Sincerely, Bob Drury     

[Peter Jack]

Bob, you're making way too much sense. 

Is it possible to work with the towing company to get a track that minimizes damage to the salt? In a lot of cases the cleats are a bolt on item that could be replaced with something less severe. Those machines are used for lots of different purposes under different conditions and over different types of terrain. In many cases the surface is ecologically sensitive. There's likely something that would do the job with less damage but taking an overly aggressive approach to the problem is just going to make a compromise much more difficult. I fear it may have been made somewhat more difficult already.

Pete