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Bonneville Salt Flats Discussion => SCTA Rule Questions => Topic started by: uglydog56 on July 24, 2008, 11:42:37 PM
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I'm building a air cooled vw powered lakester. It is turbocharged, and due to all the plumbing, you can't run the stock fan & shroud. Can I put in air scoops that just go into the cylinders and back out (don't have anything to do with the rest of the body) and still be legal?
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I don't see any reason you can't haqve air scoops for cooling as long as they stay inside of the track.Nothing may overhang the inside of the tires. I don't think.
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I beleieve you stated you were building a lakester...and yes a lakester is classified in the special construction class and you can almost do anything...
kent
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F/BGL. My buddy and I have a turbocharged 2234 we are going to see if we can get to stay cool for 3 miles.
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UD, pictures? Build diary... :| sketches of what you are thinking? Special construction is almost rule-less after safety is met. Lakesters have 2 rules, totally open wheels and no part of the vehicle can extend outside the inner plane of the narrowest set of tires. Get a rule book and read it a couple of dozen times before you get too far, ask lots of questions here, come to Bonneville and look at the cars that are already built, glean ideas, everyone will be happy to talk to you about why they have done what....
Put the ideas together on paper and have fun, be safe, go fast...
hope to see ya on the salt 8-)
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Gulp!
I'm building a narrow-tread lakester. It has a four cylinder Honda engine.
On the left side of the engine the intake manifold intrudes past the vertical inner line of the rear wheels.
I've read the lakester rules and they say,"so long as no part of the or axle fairing is wider than the narrowest vertical plane of the tires,"
I does not say "no part of the vehicle..."
Wadayathink?
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Gulp!
I'm building a narrow-tread lakester. It has a four cylinder Honda engine.
On the left side of the engine the intake manifold intrudes past the vertical inner line of the rear wheels.
I've read the lakester rules and they say,"so long as no part of the or axle fairing is wider than the narrowest vertical plane of the tires,"
I does not say "no part of the vehicle..."
Wadayathink?
Ba-bow!
as Kent said as long as its safe pretty much anything goes, you can have bodywork outside the inner edge of your wheels ....but you'll be in streamliner class,.
So, if you want to be in lakester , everything needs to be inside the inner edge of the narrowest wheel track......
And while I'm here....when people ask you Uglydog what's powering the lakester ...you can say "it's got a bug in it's aaaahh..ssss" :wink:
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Gulp!
I'm building a narrow-tread lakester. It has a four cylinder Honda engine.
On the left side of the engine the intake manifold intrudes past the vertical inner line of the rear wheels.
I've read the lakester rules and they say,"so long as no part of the or axle fairing is wider than the narrowest vertical plane of the tires,"
I does not say "no part of the vehicle..."
Wadayathink?
Don't know what you are reading. My rule book says "no part of the body or axle fairing" What are you getting your reading from? It reads like a typo.
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Butch, the way the rule is written it only states "body or axle fairing", nothing is stated about engine parts. I would think you are ok. Get the legal nod from Kiwi Steve.
Sid.
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Gulp!
I'm building a narrow-tread lakester. It has a four cylinder Honda engine.
On the left side of the engine the intake manifold intrudes past the vertical inner line of the rear wheels.
I've read the lakester rules and they say,"so long as no part of the body or axle fairing is wider than the narrowest vertical plane of the tires,"
I does not say "no part of the vehicle..."
Wadayathink?
I fixed it for ya a little... In lakester class nothing can be outside the inner plane of the narrowest tires. We had a scoop that broke that plane once, the reading was not class legal... and it actually won't put in streamliner, read those rules, 2 wheels must be covered
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Butch, why not tilt the engine? If that doesn't suit then the worst you'd have to do is fabricate some more of the intake system.
Pete
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Stainless is correct. Just because it isn't legal for Lakester doesn't mean it's automatically legal for Streamliner. Wayno
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Butch, the way the rule is written it only states "body or axle fairing", nothing is stated about engine parts. I would think you are ok. Get the legal nod from Kiwi Steve.
Sid.
Kiwi Steve is the guy to ask about tech and safety stuff, not classing questions. Although he'll obviously be able to answer your question, the more appropriate persons to contact would be the body class chair/committee.
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Since its special construction, you could run two of them. One in the front and one in the rear like the Joe Huffaker twin Porsche Indy car from 1966. Tony
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I'm building a air cooled vw powered lakester. It is turbocharged, and due to all the plumbing, you can't run the stock fan & shroud. Can I put in air scoops that just go into the cylinders and back out (don't have anything to do with the rest of the body) and still be legal?
Air scoops would be considered bodywork since it directs air... Lets see: 4.W Open Wheel "no portion of the bodywork intrudes upon the inside plane of the tire." Since you'll be in there, there is already some width to the vehicle, NACA style ducts on each side can pull in enough air. As far as directing the air have a look under the hood of a Cessna 120 (or similar) flat-4 powered airplane and/or a few Formula V cars, just you'll want the air to go under and up through all the cylinder fins then back. Those two little tin bits between the cylinders are there for a purpose (air has to go through the fins not just through the gap). If all the air goes common then out the back you can hang a fan back there during tuning, a dyno run, and after a run to keep things cooling without forward motion.
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Since its special construction, you could run two of them. One in the front and one in the rear like the Joe Huffaker twin Porsche Indy car from 1966. Tony
sorry Tony, only liners get to have multiples... one per lakester....
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Just cover two wheels and he will be fine. :-D :-D :-D, then when he wants to run lakester disconnect one engine. Tony