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Bonneville Motorcycle Speed Trials => Bville Motorcycle Speed Trials General Chat => Topic started by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 02, 2008, 02:01:52 PM
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Good morning, boys and girls. Nancy and I are here at the Salt (as usual, it seems), and the Bubs event has begun. Here's Rex Svoboda and Denis Manning conducting the rider's meeting:
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1514.jpg)
Since we've only been here a little while -- and since a good portion of that time has been spent in saying howdy to about a zillion folks already -- I've only taken a few photos. But -- because this bike has spent so much time on the Forum I wanted to show you Max's Vincent liner on the Salt, where it naturally belongs.
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1509.jpg)
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1511.jpg)
And just to keep Stainless happy and give him a bit of screen time, here's the dolly:
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1508.jpg)
Final shot for now -- liner and mascot:
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1509.jpg)
Other comments: We've talked with Mike Akatiff and seen the Ack bike, and the Bubs bike is here (with Chris Carr due to arrive in a little while (after winning the Springfield Mile yesterdat, according to Denis)), I said hi to Sam Wheeler so it's a fair guess that the EZ Hook bike is here, and there's at least on other liner that we drove past (but didn't recognise).
Lots of bikes, of course -- Norton, MV Augusta, Indian, Vincent, even some Harley Davidsons, believe it or else. And on and on -- and I did charge the batteries in the camera last night, so I'll put some more photos up here later.
It's time for the ride down the course -- I'll be back.
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A great and safe meet to all of the racers. Jon, thanks for the update, looking forward to the runs and speeds. :-)
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Jon, great news and thanks for the update.
Larry
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Jon,
did you gave Sam the poster which was in the tube at the Salt Talk......thanks....and give him the best regards from my side...thanks
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No, and we spoke with Sam for a little while today. Thank you very much the reminder -- we'll give it to him next time we see him.
Regards,
Jon
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Hey, hey, Hey! It's midafternoon and nancy and I are chilling for a while, so I'll crack open a Monster "Assault" and load a bunch of photos and other information.
I've got to apologize for putting the photos here instead of in the photo gallery, but it's not all my fault. Jon Amo and I spent about two minutes together at SpeedWeek -- and that didn't give us enough time to get me tutored in how to put pictures into the gallery. So -- here they come. I'll put a group or so into each of these posts. I'm not necessarily going to add captions or details, but if there's something I remember that's worth posting -- you'll read it, too.
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Here's Belen Wagner's bike:
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1518.jpg)
We heard her dad talking about how they decided to run rain tires - here's the rear:
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Here's a comment that might have been made by any of a zillion folks about Bonneville bike racers:
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Little bikes:
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(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1525.jpg)
Custom bikes, like this "work-of-art" turbo Blast. The builder was talking about how he had entered it in a competition for artsy bikes (not his words, but rather - mine). Not the swoopy handlebars:
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1528.jpg)
And the nice-looking turbo kit tucked behind the case:
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1527.jpg)
That's the first batch. A hit of Assault and I'll be back with more.
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And by the way, since Nancy and I have official press credentials I'm supposed to mention that Bub's is the event and AMA and FIM and PDQ (well, maybe not them!) are allowing us to post these photos and any commentary that I might make. There was a bunch of required verbiage (to which I signed my agreement) back a few months ago when i applied for the credentials -- but I can't find those words in the press packet we got today, so I'll try to cover my truckstop/sweetie-pie and say that I'm doing exactly what I'm supposed to be saying.
Okay, to some more photos:
When's the last time you saw one of the W-3 engines up close and personal?
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(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1531.jpg)
And note the bodywork on the bike. It's from Switzerland, I believe...
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1532.jpg)
Ah, just another day at Bonneville -- a couple of Royal Enfields...
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And here's one of the Condor front-wheel chocks, like Todd convinced Nancy and me to switch to, but here used as a rear wheel chock. Still -- the units are slick and work really well:
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1535.jpg)
To go on about the Condor - I didn't really think they'd work as well as they do, but I tried. We put the race bike into one and used just two tie-downs (from rear pegs, approximately, to D-rings on the floor on the sides of the front wheels), and the bike didn't move around at all during the 1,900-mile trip out here. Better still -- I put the front wheel of our 700-pound Gold Wing into a Condor and used a pair of tie-downs, located in about the same place as for the race bike -- and the Honda stayed put, too! I'll use 'em again.
Another one of the Swiss bikes:
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And here's one just for those of you that are awaiting a bike with which you're familiar -- the Buddfab 'liner:
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1537.jpg)
Final bike of this batch. Take a pair of Kawasaki ZX636R motors and cram them into one chassis, add the slickest chain routing I've seen in a long time, and you end up with this:
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(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1539.jpg)
They moved the bike out from under my camera just as I was about to take some photos of the chain, but it is cool. I'll try to find the bike again and get better photos.
That's it for this post. Gotta download some more.
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Other things I should mention: Delvene Manning says she'll try to supply me with daily run logs -- eitehr at the end of the day, or the next morning for sure. We haven't yet figured out if the logs will get to me on paper, on a CD-rom, a USB drive, or by email -- but I'll get 'em. Then, of course, I've got to figure out how to get them from Wintel into Apple format so I can post them here for one and all. But trust me, I'll try.
Oh - speaking of not all that much -- Sam Wheeler said that he probably won't bother trying to get in a whiz-bang run, especially since the course is pretty good (but still wet near the south end for the first mile or so). But he want to make at least one, maybe more, attempts to show him and his crew whether the new front wheel will work. Let's see if I can find a photo of the wheel:
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1548.jpg)
Hah! How's that for a sneaky lead-in? Here's another shot or two of his bike:
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From the sublime to the -- well, howsabout your regular, every-day 3740-cc Harley?
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1540.jpg)
This is a streamliner/sidecar meet, right? Look at these hacks. The first one is Bob Bakker's (you know him on this Forum as bak189):
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1542.jpg)
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Did I hear you ask for a photo of the Indian-powered 'liner? Well, here it is:
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1551.jpg)
I'll get a photo of the insides of it later, when the lighting is better.
The diesel Kawasaki KLR 650-type bike:
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1554.jpg)
And final one of the batch is...I forget. I'll post it and look at the photo once it's on line. If you figure it out before I post - you win a big thank you.
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1555.jpg)
That's all, folks.
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Hey, do I win a prize for making more posts than anyone else today? No, don't bother -- I've already got a t-shirt.
Here's the last of the photos I took today. First of all a liner with tiny engine, being worked on right next to the Bub #7 bike. I didn't get any information...(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1559.jpg)
And here's the plain, work-a-day belt system on the Bub engine:
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Different view of the engine/rear tire area:
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I said this is it for this batch, but I couldn't let the day end without a shot of my on-the-salt avocation's representative:
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1561.jpg)
Okay, we're going to go see if we can get the run logs. Ta-ta for now.
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Thanks for the update and keep the pictures coming!
Scott
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And here's the plain, work-a-day belt system on the Bub engine:
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Different view of the engine/rear tire area:
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The mind boggles at all the thought that went into designing the BUB Streamliner, and the flawlessness of its execution.
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Custom bikes, like this "work-of-art" turbo Blast. The builder was talking about how he had entered it in a competition for artsy bikes (not his words, but rather - mine). Not the swoopy handlebars:
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1528.jpg)
And the nice-looking turbo kit tucked behind the case:
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1527.jpg)
That's one of Roger Goldammer's bikes, which we recently discussed in this thread:
http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,4445.0.html
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Hey, no kidding? Maybe I shouloda listened more carefully to the guy that is shown (or at least his left hand is shown) in the second photo. Mighta been him, hey?
I'll look into it tomorrow.
So here's some stuff from today: Delvene will get us a copy of the run logs next morning, so I oughta be able to post them by 10AM next day.
And Stainless reports that the Max Lambky 'liner in sidecar clothing made a qualifying pass today -- 157 mph -- and got back to the line for the record return run about 5.50PM, only to be greeted by the information that "We've closed the course to more bikes. You'll have to run in the morning. Of course to qualify for this record your runs have to be within 124 hours of one another -- on the SAME CALENDAR DAY!" (emphasis mine). So -- back to square one for the bike.
The MV Augusta bike, ridden by Rosie, set a 191 + record today, and Cliff Gullett (#7070 liner, with 500 cc motor installed) was making a pass down the course as we left late this afternoon.
And so it goes -- first day is over, and I'll get some results up here tomorrow. I'll post a photo then of the other Vincent liner -- a single engine bike that will fit only the narrowest rider yo've ever imagined. boyoboy is it skinny...
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Awesome updates Jon, thanks! Wish we were there! If you need any "win" help with the logs shoot me an email & I'll help you out! ;)
Deb
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Anyone know how much Hp the BUB liner has?
Bill
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WOW!!!! What a great start and an excellent salty-bike thread.
Is that the airbox on the left side of the backbone on the #121 W-3 bike... looking forward to hearing what class it's running in? Also what class the #141 bike is in?
The Bennett's Performance #50 bike looks very nice... would love some close ups for sure.
The Dream Catcher #1957 liner is the one that showed up at Maxton some years back (just for some pre tech if I remember right).. hope they do well.
Wouldn't be an event without Van's double shovel out there huh... :-) But what is the attachement to that darn pillow man - it's been quite awhile he's been running that as his seat now (there's gotta be a story behind it - lol)!
Sorry to hear Max didn't make the cut off for the return run, but I have a feeling he has the ability to up his qualifying run quite a bit anyway.
Bob's #1194 hack is absolutley gorgeous.... ask him if you're allowed to run real sidecars out there :wink:
EXCELLENT shots JW.... would love to have one or two of you and Nancy with any of the liners for my wall here. Glad to see the internet connection going so well also, you got Deb to upgrade us into one of them things now also thank you very much :-P. And nice touch adding in the Green Company Limo pic btw... lol.
Bill, Denis' liner has a lot less hp then you'd think (or at least then I'd think) for 350mph :-o
Todd
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(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1562.jpg)
Does that answer your question, Todd? And you want proof that the hack made a run? Lookie here:
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1563.jpg)
Scary --- I didn't get the story behind it.
I'll try to get some responses for your questions, but it's nighty-night time for me just now. Thanks (to all) for looking at the stuff I've posted.
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Jon,
I think the 157 mph speed you talked about for Max was a speed for Travis Suttun with his open bike 600 turbo, they made a down run at 157 mph and went to impound on an open record. They were told in impound that the return runs for AMA have already left impound and he would have to requalify the next day...
Seems both bikes #1230 (questionable due to angle of photo) and #121 (swiss bike) forgot to read about the 180 degree rule for seat and tail sections (no streamlining below top edge of rim from vertical line of axel rearword)... Interesting to see if they let them run in that form for a AMA or FIM record. I couldnt tell what class the #121 bike was running in due to lack of class designation.
awww what fun it would be to be there watching all the action, I sure miss it.
JonAmo
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Wow, those seem like one of the worse choices for tires on the SC bike ofr anything other then circle track maybe.... but what do I know? (yeah, I know.. not much :-) ) Going by the tread pattern that appears to be the rear wheel... thank god for that at least and I hope no one got hurt.
JonA.. that sounds more better about the sidecar speed. And I said the same thing to Deb last nite about the rear wheel coverage on a couple of those bikes... but we always hear how AMA and FIM are there own entities with their own rules and we agreed I'd be better off not saying anything - lol.
Todd
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Far be it from us to keep our mouths shut on our thoughts! :evil:
Am I the only one that's hit refresh on this thread 1800 times already today???
Don't these people know we can't live without an update? :-D
8-)
Deb
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I'm with you Deb.
Jon less time in the Honey Wagons and more updates!!
The pics are great keep them coming!!!
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Wide tires on the salt don't mix well, The sports car bunch will argue about this until they spin. Right DW.
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Right on Glen.
I think I mentioned this before. Several years ago a guy with an original GT40 came by at the end of the week on his way home from Pebble Beach.
He wanted to run and insisted his tires were good for 200 +. Mike Stewart let him run with a 150 restriction. We then started a pool with a $1 buy in as to what speed he would spin. We knew he would not adhere to the speed restricion, just that type of guy.
Mike won with a 183 spin and I ended up with an original body hinge from a GT40. The guy put all the pieces in his trailer and went home.
DW
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JonA.. that sounds more better about the sidecar speed. And I said the same thing to Deb last nite about the rear wheel coverage on a couple of those bikes... but we always hear how AMA and FIM are there own entities with their own rules and we agreed I'd be better off not saying anything - lol.
Todd
AMA Rule 8.B - so they have the rules - just depends on if they wish to follow them. :)\\
JonAmo
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First of all, here's the bad news. Last night Nancy and I were tolkd that we could have a copy of the run logs either at the end of the day or this morning. We said we'd get 'em in the morning. This morning we were greeted with "You can have them as soon as I burn them to a CD-rom for you, and that'll take only about two minutes." A few minutes later we were asked if a half-hour would be okay, and a half-hour later it was "not yet, but soon." No, we don't have them yet. We do have permission to get the logs directly from the Rices, but that won't start 'til tonight or tomorrow morning. Whatever, we decided to go to the start line to take some photos, then we'd go back and get the logs. We drove past all five start lines (you think I'm kidding about that, don't you? Nope -- saw at least five, and that's only on the "south end" of the courses) and then discovered the battery in the camera had gone away, so we're back in the Econo Lodge for a few minutes to do laundry and get fresh batteries (which has been done -- the camera is okay now). We'll head back out in an hour or so and try to find a start line that's got some activity.
Oh, not only were there multiple start lines, but there's the pre-stage line, where bikes wait 'til there's a batch or so and then are dispatched in groups of about 10 to RIDE down the course to the start line.
We did have a fine breakfast with the MV Augusta team, though -- catered, with individual-made omelettes and good coffee. I think Stainless is going to mosey down to their pit for his breakfast in the morning.
That's enough for now. It's in the low 60's and super-duper. Wish you were all here.
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Dan, I remember the spin well as it was just past the timing trailer. Big $$$$ repairs. I probably have some pictures of it some where.
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Wish I was there. Last year was so wet I knew I had chosen the wrong year to go. How is the wind? Are the streamliners going to run?
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Okay -- if you buy us a nice breakfast at your pit I'll put your photo on the site. No question -- we can be bought!
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Here's a shot that includes some of the danish rolls as well as the bike:
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Final bribed shot -- the exhaust pipes on this bike are way cool -- referred to as the organ-pipe exhaust, I think I remember reading:
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Cliff Gullett's trailer has this tasty photo on the back door. Nice shot -- and let's the poor folks that are traveling along the highway behind him know what we get to see when we're at our favorite play place:
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1585.jpg)
Final shot of the bunch: These weights helped this Buell pick up about 5 mph yesterday. But they wouldn't be allowed under SCTA/ECTA rules becuase they extend past the centerline of the axle, right? Or is that just that the mounting tabs/fasteners must be in front of the axle? Anyway, the AMA scrutineer said that they don't want them back that far, either, but allowed them anyway. Hunh?
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1583.jpg)
Deep enough! Going back to the salt as soon as the clothes are out of the dryer.
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I'm with you Deb.
Jon less time in the Honey Wagons and more updates!!
The pics are great keep them coming!!!
ummm... aren't you supposed to be on a bike in one of those long lines mister? :-D
Debbie
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Thanks for the updates Jon and you are a better person than I. I'm too selfish with my limited time out there and don't want to spend it uploading photos and text. You are giving up a lot and giving us a lot to take the time to do it. Thanks :-).
Now Jon Amo was younger than you and I and didn't seem to need any sleep, so he could race, take pictures, upload and race somemore besides driving to the event all night across Wyoming watching movies :-o. Of course he never drove and watched at the same time 8-). Jon A another thanks for all that you did for us for so long,
Sum
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We do have permission to get the logs directly from the Rices, but that won't start 'til tonight or tomorrow morning.
I waited until the last run was completed and waited untl the Rice's compilied the information and got it from their USB drive to my computer and put them up before I left their trailer.
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JonAmo
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You could almost call those weights streamlining beyond the rear axel.
I talked with another racer at BUB's and I asked how the meet was going he state "they are so freakin hosed"... No communication seems to be the biggest complaint... Don't know who's going, who's on course or what speeds anybody is turning. All vehicles must report back to impound after a pass to get your time slip...
Still wish I was there reporting,, I do kinda miss it, being it the middle of everything... ahhhh... well back to work... What was I doing again?
JonAmo
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These sound like the same problems of the last couple of years. The growth of the event, listening Ratliff, has resulted in issues for the organizers. I am sure they will be able to get this under control before the meet dies a natural death because of lack of entries.
DW
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Hosed, meaning dandy, right? They think so, I fear. There's supposed to be an FM station on the air (89.7 "Radio Free Bub's" is how it's posted), but all I get on the radio is something like Russian Radio Free Europe jamming. No PA system, either. And the racers have to go to REGISTRATION!!!! to get timing slips.
PS Thanks for the cellphone/USB/internet connection, Jon. 1.5 MBs on the Salt!
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Latest satellite images show Max with the Vicent Liner is in prestage and ready to give it a go with the sidecar.
JonAmo
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And no other activity from other streamliners as of yet, with exception to the BudFad liner.
Would not expect BUB 7 to run at all during the event unless someone like Ack or Wheeler put down a record number... Tires are still questionable for BUB - 350-375 may be the limit, and how many chances do you want to take?
Jon
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Dennis was at the J+P cycle event earlier this year in Iowa and he told me that they ran the Bub 7 in practice and they went from start to 300 mph and back to zero in 5 miles. I am surprised Ack has not been out. They are usually the first to go out. It cost them big time last year.
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Ack Attack crew will be ready to run in about 1 hour, final checks and they will get down to the 0 mile. They plan on making a 280-300 mph pass to check liner out since the changes in liner from last year.
Wheeler will be doing a class record only at about 200 mph with aluminum wheel, this gives him a chance to see how it handles and he will be able to make a turn around record pass to feel out the aluminum wheel.
BUB 7 is sitting at 0 mile with Chris Carr, they could make an attempt at any time. Been there all morning.
JonAmo
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Thanks so much for the updates - I have searched the internet all over looking for any kind of info....
My husband is out there and now I am wishing that I was too!
Thanks again -
Erin
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Erin ,
what is your husband riding? What is vehicle number? And who is your husband?
JonAmo
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OK, someone needs to come up with a live feed of speeds. Maybe a little video feed. "Pay for view" log in here on Landracing, pay your $xx via paypal and get a live feed. How about it SSS? If I can pay to see nudy girl web cams, why not a little racing!
Some one just make some speeds up and post them for me PLEASE! :-D
Bill
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Sleep is optional!
More pictures!!
More information!!!
More!!!!
More!!!!!
More!!!!!!
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My husband is Hiro Koiso - he is on a 2006 Harley-Davidson Dyna bike # 7911.
Sounds like he is doing pretty good - just wish I could see something! Crap I wish I would of went instead of being stuck here at work!
Thanks so much!
Erin
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Problem is not video feeds... Hell I did that a couple years ago on trial... Prloblem is bandwith.... If you didnt know the salt is kinda a kill zone for internet... Wendover isn't the most technical town on earth... Good bandwith is the key to make it work, while most have great download speeds (like the wireless system that I gave JonW) but upload is usually limited to 128K... Now if you want to spring for the 5 meg up and down satellite feed that one would need to make that happen, and the server software, plus a dedicated server ($400/month) it would only cost you about $10K per event including rented equipment... Trust me I looked for those options about 3 years ago, and mobile unit pricing has not budged in that amount of time. And now we haven't even gotten to the video equipement needs randomly around the course and then of course the problem of feeding that video into a central location for broadcast. How much further do you want me to go?
Now on the other hand feeding live results would not be out of the question and you would only be dealing with a 50-200K file with upload rates like every minute or even 5 minutes could happen pretty easy. The problem with that is feeding into the Rice's system during the event may be a problem. They would need to export the database every 5 mintues, have that database sent to your computer on the salt, then the file uploaded via ftp or server software. - with BUB you might have some leway to make it happen - but I dont think so for the SCTA.
I had a solution partially formulated before I sold the site...
JonAmo
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John Minnono had a 220+ mph pass on his blown harley (1650? 2000?) he had to take the fairings off due to a problem with them dragging. So he ran just the tail section and a tiny little nose cone up front.. Damn fast speed for essentially an open bike harley... Good job Minnono.
JonAmo
---still wish I was there---
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I wanted to have live audio streaming at SpeedWeek but didn't get everything put together in time. I will have it on the site, for no cost to you folks, for next year's SW -- maybe this fall at WF if I can get things ready.
I'll use the audio from the CB, with Glen and whomever announcing speeds and that stuff, along with the broadcast from radio 1610 (or, as it'll be at WF, radio 89.7). I'll send it up to the internet in one stream and let the server take care of splitting it up for youse guys. It should work just dandy with the equipment I've got available now, and whatever cost there is shouldn't be hard to recoup from a sponsor.
I know how valuable it would be to everyone at home -- to hear the engines starting up at the line, to hear Glen calling out his famous patter (WHAT'S BETTER THAN HEARING HIM SAY "NICE RUN, JON, TELL NANCY TO TAKE IT TO IMPOUND!"), and so on. I can just imagine how cool it'll be to hear that stuff during a meet -- when I'm stuck at home.
Stay with me, folks -- I'm still new at this. But, for the sake of saying how good it can be -- Nancy and I are at about the four mile right now as I'm posting this message. Life is good -- temps in the mid-70s,, gentle winds, fast bikes going past.
Oh, yeah -- the Bub liner is waiting for the wind to die down, they told us when we were at that start line an hour or so ago. They also told me they've got the motor set at about 400 hp.
Max's three-wheeled liner left the line and putt-putted for a couple of miles, then cleared up at the two -- and apparently veered gently to the right before going out of sight. I haven't been back to the pit to ask what's going on.
Buddfab put in a run -- and I still cannot get the run logs. Sorry -- I've tried, but this, that and the other reason has kept the date from getting to me. Soon, folks, soon.
Other stuff: We stopped at the EZ-Hook pit to deliver Pork Pie's photo to Sam, and he said he'd likely be taking the bike out for a run later today. I'll get you some information about that soon. And when we drove past the Ack pits I didn't see Rocky -- maybe he's hiding in the trailer, maybe he's not on the salt right now.
Gotta got spend time with Nancy. It's nice and lonely out here by ourselves...
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Jon -- thanks for doing such a diligent job getting the hard data you're posting. Where are you getting it? Doesn't your boss mind that you're spending the whole danged day on the internet?
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Thanks folks for posting results, 'preciate it. -Dean
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Thanks for the updates. I have a friend out there who is phoning me everyday with info on Max's progress. With that info and what I'm getting here I'm sort of in the loop. If you get down to Max's pit tell Puckett hi for me.
Steve
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Cliff Gullett in the 7070 liner just made a north-to-south pass and had something happen just out of the traps -- the radio announcer says there's debris on the track, the ambulance was dispatched, and they're calling for Jack Costella to go to the scene. No further on this yet.
Ack's Jim True says they're likely going to make a run later this afternoon. Joe Daly (Maxton guy, rides a Buell) just turned in a 121 run.
The "international" course is on hold while they resolve the 7070 incident, other runs are continuing.
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Cliff Gullett just crashed the 7070.... Pencil rolled the liner then possibly endo'd it. Was not a good accident. Ambulance was there... Bad crash, Cliff taken in ambulance. This was around the timed mile.
JonAmo
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The ambulance is sitting still out there, door open. The debris field is about 200 yards long as far as we can tell. Costella's van is there, the Team Bozeman support truck is there, no fire trucks. The Bub's radio station signed off the air right after the incident, saying that since the course would be closed for a while there wasn't reason to stay on the air.
Costella's van just left the scene. Not much movement out there.
I wonder if they've stopped the meet forthe day -- about a coupleof dozen bikes just roared past on the way back to the pits.
Post now, more later...
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Thanks for the updates Jon and Jon.
Our thoughts and prayers are with the Bullet Team.
Jason McVicar
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Ambulance has departed, heading back to the pits, and Team Bozeman support truck is also going back there. The team 4-wheeler is looking at the debris field, as are Bub's officials.
This report is brought to you via Bushnell 7x50 binoculars from about 400 yards off the course but otherwise near the scene of the incident. I'm trying to give only what information I can see -- not reading anything into what I'm seeing.
End of this report -- we'll head back to the pits. Radio Bub still not back on the air.
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Team Bullett site: http://www.teambullett.com/
Team Bullett blog: http://teambullett.blogspot.com/
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It's not good, folks. I'll get correct information to you as soon as I can. Pray for Cliff.
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I'll continue with my posts on the Bub's event - and will let you know when I hear anything further on Cliff.
Some photos from this afternoon, including a few taken at one of the many start lines. Here's the Buddfab bike, with 50 cc blown engine:
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1591.jpg)
Here's the longest waiting line we saw:
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A few bikes shot at that start line...
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An '06 ZX14R. Note the 1# (or 1 1/2#) nitrous bottle on the right rear. The guy says he's run a 199 so far.
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1597.jpg)
Here's a W I D E bike - so wide that the belly pan for it was obviously fabbed up after they had tried to get the standard size bodywork around the motor. I couldn't get closer to the bike so I could figure out what motor it had -- the starter called it up to the line for instant launch before I could get there.
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1600.jpg)
Sidecar bike (I betcha you figgered that out all by yourself without any help from me):
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1602.jpg)
And yes, this is "the" Roger Goldammer. We chatted for a while. He says he built this bike for show AND to run, since so much of his stuff is for show only, so to speak. It's powered by the rear cylinder of an H-D motor, head on backwards, turbo and nitrous, and really, really pretty.
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But now the bad part -- he left the line, right after telling me that he had richened the fuel map just prior to this run. Well, he might have done better to not change it - about a thousand ducks died in the half-mile he ran before he turned out (in other words it was "shooting ducks"). No, JD, as you expected, it didn't heal itself.
Here's his photo as he put-putted down the course, hoping, waiting, not doing much good.
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1610.jpg)
That's it for now. I've got some more -- will get 'em on here soon.
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I just tried posting a last batch of photos and something went awry, so if you se a goofy-looking post -- please ignore it. I removed it as soon as I saw it -- but you might have seen it before I made it go away. Sorry.
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Ladies and Gents,
Due to the current topic and the recent tradegy of Cliff Gullett, they had merged into one, I have created a new Topic just for your thoughts and information of Cliff at the following link:
http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,4592.0.html
Lets use that topic for sharing info on Cliff, and keep this topic for just for updates on BUB run info.
Thanks
Jonathan Amo
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I'll continue with my posts on the Bub's event - and will let you know when I hear anything further on Cliff.
Some photos from this afternoon, including a few taken at one of the many start lines. Here's the Buddfab bike, with 50 cc blown engine:
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1591.jpg)
Wow, I can't get over just how small that liner is.
Here's the longest waiting line we saw:
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1601.jpg)
Everybody else in line at the Red Flame? :-D
A few bikes shot at that start line...
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1592.jpg)
It's like if Amo owned a Harley
An '06 ZX14R. Note the 1# (or 1 1/2#) nitrous bottle on the right rear. The guy says he's run a 199 so far.
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1597.jpg)
Those look like 1.25lb bottles and I can't imagine two of them getting through the mile with anything more then a 20shot. Sure they aren't Co2 bottles to supply the shifter and he's actually running 199 on motor? Is he ruinning in a fuel class Jon? An another one with those 30lb frame sliders eh - lol.
Here's a W I D E bike - so wide that the belly pan for it was obviously fabbed up after they had tried to get the standard size bodywork around the motor. I couldn't get closer to the bike so I could figure out what motor it had -- the starter called it up to the line for instant launch before I could get there.
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1600.jpg)
Someone needs to paint a penguin on the front of that thing (kinda looks like one of my ex wifes after we split up) :-)
Sidecar bike (I betcha you figgered that out all by yourself without any help from me):
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1602.jpg)
Beautiful workmanship... the tail section reaching the rear axle looks little borderline though.
Thanks man, awesome work you and Nancy are doing out there... this is the next best thing to not being at work :-o
Todd
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Thanks for those thoughts on specific pics/machines
thats neat to hear them..:)
and thanks Jon for keeping the reporting coming
a monster dark cloud is over them...and all of us...its important to
let as much sunshine through as possible with all the
potential dreams that remain out there and abroad.....
Joe
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Any info on the money runs? (who is fastest so far in each category?)
If some one can't find out ALL the standings, maybe see whats going on in the Fairy and Non-fairy categories.
Bill
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a monster dark cloud is over them...and all of us...its important to
let as much sunshine through as possible
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Todd
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Latest satellite images show Max with the Vicent Liner is in prestage and ready to give it a go with the sidecar.
JonAmo
Hi Jon-
How can we access these satellite images?
Nick 3rd.
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Sure would be nice to have some results :-D
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Nancy and I are out here now (again) and trying yet another time to get the run logs. Maybe we can at least get some numbers on this-n-that.
Back in a little while.
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As I remember, Jon has access to satrellite views not accessible to the General Public.
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Hey, I've got some run speeds -- sorta. Still no electronic run logs, but then, I've only been asking and begging and pleading for a few days, and I've only been getting told that I'll get 'em soon for a few days -- but -- ready for this? They handed Nancy and me 7 (seven) pages of printed logs from the past two days, international course only. I'll try taking photos of them and posting those. They show speeds, but not records.
Project 750 Assault bike, with Jack Broomall riding, got the AMA record in M-AG 750 and M-AF 750, pending certification. Speeds were 164+ gas, 167+ fuel. I have that 'cause Jack's standing next to me at the truck.
He wants me to tell you, especially his wife in case she's reading this, that he's wearing his sunscreen.
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IN other speeds, Cliff Gullett went 237.949 in the kilometer yesterday and 237.925 in the mile -- and the log ends with "bike down".
The Costella-Swedetech/Erin Hunter 100 PS liner went 139.093 k, 139.151 mile.
I see a Jon Minnono run in 2000 PBF APS -- 221.182 k, 220.969 mile.
These are all from yesterday (3 September).
Leslie Porterfield, in 1350 M-PS --- 216.408 k, 217.017 mile.
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More from yesterday:
The HSTUSA (diesel bike), in 750 DB-M -- 110.552k, 110.001 mile.
Lee Burkey - 1000 BF-MPS: 92.952k, 86.222 mile.
I see a run bty Max.s twin Vincent liner -- 3000 PBF S -- 117.908k, 117.558 mile. I'd hazard the guess that this was his turn-out run where the rider didn't do much but putt-putt 'til the two mile, then bore right and went off the course.
Here's another run by Erin Hunter in the belly-flopper #5050 liner, on a qualifying run (I've got to apologize here -- these pages aren't all in order nor well-identified as to what's when, so forgive me if I list something a bit screwy-sounding). Anyway, this run by Erin showed a 146.622k, 146.577 mile. I'll guess that was the qualifying run, and the speed I reported in my previous post was her return run.
I think I'll sign on this post and see if there's a better way, and as soon as I get back to the room I'll post those run sheets in toto and you can try to zoom in and read 'em.
Looking forward to USFRA, aren't you? So are we. And I'm working on the porta-potty situation for WF, too. Manoman, this job never ends.
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Here are those seven pages of run logs from the first two dfays of the Bub's event. Along the top left margin you can see the description of what's on the page -- "down run", return run" whatever. These are all I can get for now, but I've finally got an email address for the timers -- maybe I can bypass the Bub's registration desk hassles and get the data directly.
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Ah, crud. I see some pages don't have any identification. Nancy kept them in order from when they were given to us, so let's assume that page two follows page one and completes it, okay?
We're going back out to the Salt in a little while to try to get to the tower and get better information for you. Thanks for sticking around.
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Excellent! Thanks Jon & Nancy!
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Jon & Nancy thanks. Are any of the liners going to run tomorrow?
:-)
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Okay, you've all heard that World of Speed is for the "unusual" and "experimental" vehicles, right? Take a gander at this steam-powered bike:
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1623.jpg)
Yes, it's of cantilever design. There's just the "roof" holding front to back, and the roof is the clever location for a small solar cell. Sionce the bike carries the battery pack from a Prius -- 180 pounds of battery - I don't think the 28 square inches of solar cell is capable of doing a lot of recharging while under way. Here's a close up of the engine room:
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1624.jpg)
The yellow (vertical) tank hold the water, and I forget (I was quite blown away by the technical verbosity of the description) just how the steam convinces the bread-dough-mixer motor to turn the sprocket that drives the rear wheel via a chain. Here's another photo, although I think it's sideways. Nothing new for this bike to have people viewing it with tilted head -- so turn your screen and view some more:
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1626.jpg)
Let's see -- photobucket says that I've got it right this time:
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Note the detail on the top side of the tank. The builders say it's their FIM safety certification. It looks sorta like a schematic of a toilet's flushing mechanism, doesn't it? And above it is either Charlie's signature or a smiley face (no doubt in French).
Here's your faithful correspondent astride the bike. Since there's only the above-located backbone -- the rider must sit on a very skimpy seating arrangement, allowing the family jewels to be precariously exposed to the elements, and stretch way too far ahead to reach the handlebars. To compound the felony it is darned near impossible to stay secure in the seat when trying to find the footpegs. Two folks had to hold the bike so I could sit on it without use of kickstand (that's Nancy, dear wife, who is perhaps unwise to allow me to participate in this venture without at least being sure I'm wearing a carbon-fiber cup, holding up the back of the bike).
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Bubs%202008/100_1629.jpg)
Okay -- on the a more realistic bike -- the electric one that these guys ran once at El Mirage. Here are a series of photos. I'm not going to offer much commentary - I want to get back to the Salt and see if the liners (that have been at the line all day) have finally run. Photos --
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And finally, the last one!
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That's it for now.
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Glen, and others:
In case you didn't notice it tucked in the middle of the hoo-hah about the electric bike, the liners have been waiting all day at the start line - for the wind to get perfect for them. We visited twice -- and they're waiting as fast as they can wait for conditions to get a little better. We'll go back there in a few minutes and see what's going on. I'll let you know.
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I got the run logs!!! Alan Rice gave 'em to me -- and I've sent 'em to Deb Dross so she can refarkle them from .dat files into something that's reproduceable on the site. You oughta see them here sorta soon, as soon as she and Todd get home from Lowe's.
In the meantime, the liners did not run this afternoon -- the winds only picked up. We talked with Mike Akatiff about 6.15 tonight -- he says they'll be out first thing in the morning to try for runs when the wind is quiet. We'll be there then, too.
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Thanks Slim and Nancy for all your diligent reporting. We all appreciate it very much!!
Walt
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Here's my first stab at the BUB run logs. It contains 9/2 - 9/4 for the Long (Intl) and Short (Mntn) courses.
Debbie
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BEAUTIFUL! and searchable too
Thanks so much Deb.
Bill
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Nice job Darlin, I know it was alot of work last nite and on the train this morning... thanks. And most excellent dilligence there as well Slim!
Some awesome speeds happening out there - way too many to name... but congrats to everyone doing so well so far!
Don't forget folks... with the way Deb does this the logs are fully interactive so you can sort anyway you want (singulary or overall) via the top row pulldowns. I personally just show columns A,B,C,E,F,G & M to make it easy visually... then I sort whatever I want and only stretch out other columns if I want all the info on any certain runs.
I reccomend beggining by setting up a visual the way you want (comress the columns you don't use), and then saving it to your hard drive. This way any changes you make will be easy to recitfy if you get lost or can't back to where you started.
Todd
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From what I can tell from the log:
Money Race up to now:
Team Assentec Racing has the fastest fairy mile at 235.238mph
Noonan has the fastest non-fairy mile at 237.035mph
I'm not 100% on this so don't yell if I'm wrong and I missed something.
Bill
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Nice spreadsheet. I sure see the difference between SCTA record keeping and Bub. There is a lot of missing data.
A tale of three pistons.
Jeff Wuerl took his 1650 PG M 147.590 mph. If it was a single cylinder it would be the size of the first circle.
Roger Goldammer took his custom beauty 1000 PBF APS 147.264 mph. Nice speed for a blown fuel 1000. If it was a single cylinder is would be the size of the second circle.
Team BUDDFAB took their 50 S AF streamliner 147.383 mph. Their piston IS the size of the third circle. John and Eric have done a spectacular job.
The big guns have yet to run and we may see a new absolute record. If they do I will be super impressed. But not as impressed as running 147 with a tea cup piston. Oh wait! It's 1/2 the size of a tea cup!
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Roger Goldammer took his custom beauty 1000 PBF APS 147.264 mph. Nice speed for a blown fuel 1000. If it was a single cylinder is would be the size of the second circle.
Severe Irony I hope!?
Team BUDDFAB took their 50 S AF streamliner 147.383 mph. Their piston IS the size of the third circle. John and Eric have done a spectacular job.
The big guns have yet to run and we may see a new absolute record. If they do I will be super impressed. But not as impressed as running 147 with a tea cup piston. Oh wait! It's 1/2 the size of a tea cup!
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o244/narider/Misc/Smileys/2thumbs.gif) Amazing... I don't think the air even knows they were there.
Todd
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From what I can tell from the log:
Money Race up to now:
Team Assentec Racing has the fastest fairy mile at 235.238mph
Noonan has the fastest non-fairy mile at 237.035mph
I'm not 100% on this so don't yell if I'm wrong and I missed something.
Bill
So is Noonan bike 539 then?
Anyone hear if McVicar has run yet?
BTW, just noticed I left the MPH in the speeds column which makes it difficult to sort. Sorry. Will fix it up later. I just banged it out quick & posted without really checking data. (if you have it saved on your hard drive just change ' mph' to '' in those two columns & it will be sortable as a numeric field! ;) )
Debbie
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McVicar drove in yesterday to the salt. I would expect him to run today sometime. I talked with Jason yesterday around midnight and he says he still a little sore but should be ready to throw a leg over the bike. He is riding the smaller turbo bike that went 255 at speedweek. What a great competitor he is. And there is nothing like getting back on a bike after what happened at speedweek. Be safe jason.
I know the streamliners were going out early to run this morning if wind was good.
Jon
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Sorry gang, I forgot I had this!!!
Attached is the Bub entry list. This should help to cross reference to the run log.
Hopefully we'll receive the remainder of the run logs a little more timely.
With the weekend coming I'll try to get them merged upon receipt and a little more purdied up.
Debbie
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Sorry gang, I forgot I had this!!!
Attached is the Bub entry list. This should help to cross reference to the run log.
Hopefully we'll receive the remainder of the run logs a little more timely.
With the weekend coming I'll try to get them merged upon receipt and a little more purdied up.
Debbie
Deb thanks for doing this, but would it be possible to also save the file in Works format for those of us that don't have Excel?? My works is suppose to import those, but for some reason it doesn't.
Thanks,
Sum
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Well yesterday running of the meet was explained to me as like "herding cats"
They shut down the course for awhile for the streamliners to run, but they never did.
They also had a course shutdown because Noonan lost a cell phone on the course. So they had to search for that and eventually found it.
Max Lambky was working on his clutch.. It's running too rich and weren't able to get it up off the idle circuit under a load and clean up. So some tuning there for them and a gearing change.
Jon
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They also had a course shutdown because Noonan lost a cell phone on the course.
This soooooo sounds like Noonan. I understand losing a cell phone. But ON THE COURSE? Was he talking to his pit crew so they could send instructions on how to steer?
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They also had a course shutdown because Noonan lost a cell phone on the course.
This soooooo sounds like Noonan. I understand losing a cell phone. But ON THE COURSE? Was he talking to his pit crew so they could send instructions on how to steer?
Oh yes, we WILL have fun with this one!!! (http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p224/DahMurf/Smileys/rofl_200.gif)
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Debbie
PS: Sum, working on something for you. I don't have works but I'll get something out there for the Excel challenged peeps!
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Maybe he's working for Verizon now....can you hear me now, 231mph....can you hear me now, 232mph.... :-D
Bill
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.............PS: Sum, working on something for you. I don't have works but I'll get something out there for the Excel challenged peeps!
Thanks. When you save the file you should also be able to save a second copy in Works format. Using Works I can save my spreadsheets in an Excel Format, but for some reason it won't import them right.
c ya,
Sum
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Sorry gang, I forgot I had this!!!
Attached is the Bub entry list. This should help to cross reference to the run log.
Hopefully we'll receive the remainder of the run logs a little more timely.
With the weekend coming I'll try to get them merged upon receipt and a little more purdied up.
Debbie
Deb thanks for doing this, but would it be possible to also save the file in Works format for those of us that don't have Excel?? My works is suppose to import those, but for some reason it doesn't.
Thanks,
Sum
Deb, what he said... :-D
Thanks, Larry
PS: If Noonan had Verizon they'd found it right away with all those people in the network... :mrgreen:
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I also heard the people have worked the system in prestage again, so now they have went to a ticket system to get to pre-stage... Get your ticket here... Make some money take your blown up bike to where they are handing out tickets get your ticket, then sell it to the guy in the far back of the line...
Never heard of anybody working the system on a first come first serve two line system like Speedweek uses... A few, but seems like the oldest but easiest system yet.
Jon
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Here's our last report from on-the-scene. Nancy and I had to leave today to get back for some family business -- but will try to keep reporting with at least the run logs. Delvene gave us her cellphone so we can call to remind her to send the logs.
Anyway: We were there for a while this morning at the start line for the long course. Bub, Ack, and Sam were there...waiting, waiting. The wind was headwind at 8-13 mph at the start, and the only bikes that ran were one or two sit-on bikes and the #4900 Harley-powered liner. I'll post a photo or two of that bike in the next post.
Chris Carr was suited up - but was planning to leave by right now (ten AM) to catch a flight to go to another venue where he's to race this weekend. So -- probably no run for the Bub #7, but maybe I'll be proven wrong.
Mike Akatiff said they'd leave at the end of today whether they make a run or not, because they've got other business to attend to. But Rocky said that they needed to get in at least one run, even if only at part-throttle, to get some test time on the pretty-much-new bike -- before heading out and coming back in a week or two for the "private" meet. The bike was as set to go as any of the 'liners -- all buttoned up, push truck in place, just sitting pretty as a picture (in fact, I did take one or two) on the eraly morning salt.
Sam's bike was still on the trailer, but a few folks were standing around - watching Sam twist wrenches on it. How about that? The owner and rider is also a wrkench for his machine. No insult to the others -- but it's good to see Sam's kind of involvement.
The #4900 bike did make a run, as I said earlier, and I heard only the 226 in the mile speed -- nothing for the kilo. No idea if that was near what he wanted/the class record is. I'll no doubt hear more and let you know.
So - back to the Ack bike. In case you didn't know it, the SpeedWeek participant shirt this year featured the Ack Attack bike on the front of the (black) shirt. So this morning I took our shirts anbd a silver Sharpie and got Rocky to sign 'em for us. Interesting - that the team didn't know their bike was on the shirt. They were all asking where they could get some. If you're coming out to the private meet in two weeks -- bring your shirts for autographs! Maybe you can sell 'em to the team (assuming they can't get all they want form theSCTA/BNI.
Deep enough for now!
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I can't save as works at the moment (ahem) but I might be able to tonight unless someone else beats me to it. For now I've made both files into a straight text (.txt) file (yuk) and a Rich Text (.rtf) file which has a little formatting. You can use word, wordpad & notepad to open all of them. For the Mac people I have no clue but assume there must be something to open a .txt or .rtf file.
I'll work on the works file tonight on the train. I assume that is the .wks extension?
Debbie
(Hey Noonan.... can you hear me NOW?! :lol: oh this is just TOO easy! Maybe he just doesn't have enough friends in the network?! :-o )
Text files attached below:
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Well now, I can't attach rich text files so I made the entries a word doc & will attach. The run logs are too big to attach as a word doc so you're stuck with the plain jane txt format of the run logs until I can convert to works & hope that one is small enough.
It ain't purdy but it's the best I can do for now! :-)
Debbie
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I'll put this here instead of on the topic about Cliff's death.
Dan Wright (USFRA member) sent this video to me. I haven't had time to watch it yet (in the truck heading down I-80 and battery is limited), but he thinks it's a build of the #7070 liner which Cliff rode. Take a look and let me know what you think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch\?v=hFEMMq-bofk
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Well now, I can't attach rich text files so I made the entries a word doc & will attach. The run logs are too big to attach as a word doc so you're stuck with the plain jane txt format of the run logs until I can convert to works & hope that one is small enough.
It ain't purdy but it's the best I can do for now! :-)
Debbie
Hey the plain txt are fine for me. Thanks so much,
Sum
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I'll put this here instead of on the topic about Cliff's death.
Dan Wright (USFRA member) sent this video to me. I haven't had time to watch it yet (in the truck heading down I-80 and battery is limited), but he thinks it's a build of the #7070 liner which Cliff rode. Take a look and let me know what you think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch\?v=hFEMMq-bofk
VERY cool video Jon, thanks to Dan for getting you to put it to light.
Here's a shorter link.... http://tinyurl.com/5slxjl
And here's another they put up as well.... excellent piece.
http://tinyurl.com/5vzma8
Thanks to Team Bullet for putting these videos out when they did,
Todd
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I'll put this here instead of on the topic about Cliff's death.
Dan Wright (USFRA member) sent this video to me. I haven't had time to watch it yet (in the truck heading down I-80 and battery is limited), but he thinks it's a build of the #7070 liner which Cliff rode. Take a look and let me know what you think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch\?v=hFEMMq-bofk
Yes that is it.
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Just heard today that Tim Horton riding Aaron Wilson's Buell (Orange bike 2000 MPS-PG), the swingarm broke (they think) and spit Timbo off at Speed. They have been running in the 180 mph range. Word is that Timbo is OK, but sustained a broken arm in the accident.
JonAmo
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Just heard today that Tim Horton riding Aaron Wilson's Buell (Orange bike 2000 MPS-PG), the swingarm broke (they think) and spit Timbo off at Speed. They have been running in the 180 mph range. Word is that Timbo is OK, but sustained a broken arm in the accident.
JonAmo
Dang! Sorry to hear that! If anyone speaks to them please pass along our well wishes!
Debbie & Todd
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at 10:15 AM Denis Mannings rider of Bub 7, Chris Carr had to leave the salt. He had to catch a flight to New York for a Flat Track Race.
Ack Attack and Sam Wheeler and sitting at the 0 mile just waiting on wind. The winds will get calm for a minute and then pick back up, or it's 0 mph at start and like 10-15 down course. So they are just waiting it out until the time is right.
Another rumor on Noonan's lost cell phone routine was that is leathers opened up at speed and blew his arm off the bike and that is where cell phone came out. We will let John tell the story when he gets back.
Jon
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Run update:
Jason McVicar made a pass earlier that was so fast he blew past Noonan and that sucked the phone right out of his hand. :-o
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Another rumor on Noonan's lost cell phone routine was that is leathers opened up at speed and blew his arm off the bike and that is where cell phone came out. We will let John tell the story when he gets back.
Jon
Is this his attempt to get truly naked at speed? (hey we can pick on him since he didn't wreck right? :lol: )
Deb
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Run update:
Jason McVicar made a pass earlier that was so fast he blew past Noonan and that sucked the phone right out of his hand. :-o
Good one Dean
Jon
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noonan should have used his GPS to find the phone----willie buchta
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Thanks to everyones work on the time sheets and making them available for viewing
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Some of us really computer-challenged like Mr. Amo's reports of who did what and how much. The only file I'm comfortable with is the bastard (truckstop) or rattail.
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Another rumor on Noonan's lost cell phone routine was that is leathers opened up at speed and blew his arm off the bike and that is where cell phone came out. We will let John tell the story when he gets back.
Oh I cant wait. This will undoubtedly be a good story.(http://i.pbase.com/o4/98/583898/1/63713938.qaEEdjG9.popcorn.gif)
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Straying slightly off topic, but..
What was the story with this during Speedweek on the long course:
493 H BGRMR Moreland Lux Noonan 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 wheel came off car at start
:?
Mike
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I want to see John do a full layout in his speedo :evil:.
Fred
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NEW FASTEST WOMAN ON A MOTORCYCLE........231mph
Leslie Porterfield of High Five Cycles, in conjuction with Heads Up Performance (owned by Scott Horner) put down a mile speed of over 231mph today to claming the title.
Congrates Leslie!
Bill
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NEW FASTEST WOMAN ON A MOTORCYCLE........231mph
Leslie Porterfield of High Five Cycles, in conjuction with Heads Up Performance (owned by Scott Horner) put down a mile speed of over 231mph today to claming the title.
Congrates Leslie!
Bill
Outstanding! Congratulations Leslie & Scott! (http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p224/DahMurf/Smileys/2thumbs.gif)
Debbie
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Assentec Racing, Richard Assen, layed down a 244+ pass in 1350 MPS-BF, and as far as I know is the fastest faired bike and also fast bike of the meet.. If the streamliners don't make a pass then he could go home with about $10K .. Noonan I think fastest unfaired at 234 mph (est.)...
Still waiting on info on Jason McVicar running and maybe Leslie Porterfield might still me coming on strong towards end of meet for some $$$$$$.
What does happen is there are many who could attempt to be the fastest for the $$$$ at the event, and with the wind being so erractic, what im afraid will happen in one of them will make a last ditch effort for the $$$$ and run in a less then acceptable circumstance and have an accident. Usually the speed for $$$$ ends one day before the end of the meet, so that would be Saturday at 6 pm... Actually I think it was 1 pm last year.
I know a few years ago Noonan had top time of meet on a wet course like 215 something and held it for most of the meet, and Hank Booth played possum at the start line, during the last 10 minutes or so Hank went and beat John Noonan out by a few tenths of a mph, Noonan hurried down and make a pass but didnt get the speed. All at the last few minutes of the meet.
JonAmo
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Congrats Leslie & Scott, excellent work. -Dean
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I think Noonan is up to 238+ naked today. He hasn't put the plastics on yet, maybe he is trying to get the Naked King tile back?? :-D
GO Johnny GO!
Bill
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Another rumor on Noonan's lost cell phone routine was that is leathers opened up at speed and blew his arm off the bike and that is where cell phone came out. We will let John tell the story when he gets back.
Jon
Thats pretty much what he told me last night along with a 237mph pass naked and 239 on gps.
Scott
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NEW FASTEST WOMAN ON A MOTORCYCLE........231mph
Leslie Porterfield of High Five Cycles, in conjuction with Heads Up Performance (owned by Scott Horner) put down a mile speed of over 231mph today to claming the title.
Congrates Leslie!
Bill
Wholey moley, congrats to both Scott adn Leslie... that's some wrenching and riding going on right there. Nice job... VERY impressive for sure Leslie!!!
Todd
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Another rumor on Noonan's lost cell phone routine was that is leathers opened up at speed and blew his arm off the bike and that is where cell phone came out. We will let John tell the story when he gets back.
Jon
Thats pretty much what he told me last night along with a 237mph pass naked and 239 on gps.
Scott
ahhh so he WAS riding naked! Just trying to shed a little weight then? Hopefully he'll run quicker if he can hang on with both hands! :-o
Deb
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Great to see my friend Tom Mellor from Vancouver has gone 182.45 on his old record of 149mph. That is incredible for an old 60's 750 Triumph Triple on gas.
Well done!!!
Yamagamma
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Greg Watters from Australia on a faired 750 Turbo bike had a pass at 220+ mph.
Jason McVicar made two faired passes at 220 mph and 235 mph.
Richard Assen still fastest at 244+ Mph.
JonAmo
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Thank you so much for the updates and all of the information - makes staying at home a little better to deal with!
Erin
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Greg Watters from Australia on a faired 750 Turbo bike had a pass at 220+ mph.
Jason McVicar made two faired passes at 220 mph and 235 mph.
Richard Assen still fastest at 244+ Mph.
JonAmo
Looks like alot of foreigners Jon...and sheep herders doin well :-D :-D :-D
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Just heard from Greg that Jim ( FiremanJim ) is going to ride his ( Greg's 750 Gixxer ) bike now and put it in the fuel class...should get above that magic 200mph
Some of you may know that Jim brought his turbo'd NOS Buel to OZ a few years ago with Mike A, John N and the Amo boys.
Ya can't help ya self reporting Jon A...well done mate.
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Sam Wheeler posted a 278 mph+ test pass on his new aluminum tire.
Ack Attack made it to about the 2 mile and turned out.
JonAmo
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Ack made the last pass of the day, this time they went 275+ mph for a test pass to test out....
JonAmo
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I just got off the phone from talking with Leslie! I don't think she could be any more excited!!!
She backed up her 231mph mile run with a 233.184 which will net her a 232 FIM/AMA record in MPS BF 2000!!!
She ran a 234.197 in the Kilo and in fine racer fashion, pushing every last bit out of the engine, sent a
rod through the cases! She shut down and got off the course without incident. Outstanding job!
Congratulations to Leslie for surpassing the exactly 30 year old (Sept '78) 229mph record held by
Marcia Holley in the Don Vesco streamlined motorcycle. She is now, as Bill said,
the Fastest Woman on a Motorcycle and she accomplished this by not only running faster but by also
setting a record! (http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p224/DahMurf/Smileys/clap.gif)
Noonan, if I got this down right, was running at about 239 when he pulled the one handed phone dropping run
which he obviously backed out of a bit on a 237 qualifier to net a 237.5 mile / 238.1 kilo naked record.
(I'm not sure which class other then unfaired).
McVicar has a top speed of 241mph so far.
That's all I got from a hectic phone call so hopefully it proves out mostly accurate!
Debbie
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McVicar has a top speed of 241mph so far.
That's all I got from a hectic phone call so hopefully it proves out mostly accurate!
Debbie
I heard Richard Assen went 244+ mph today so he would be faster yet so far for faired bikes.
JonAmo
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I heard Richard Assen went 244+ mph today so he would be faster yet so far for faired bikes.
JonAmo
Yup, I heard the same. Looks like McVicar & Noonan have a challenge! :-)
Debbie
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We have been having a great meet, Greg ran a 210 backed up by a 220 for his record, then I got on it an ran a 211 for my first pass on the bike, was a real hoot and easy to drive. Backup run went to crap as boost tube to plenum came loose for a 163 run--damn!!. But good for a record. Back out tomorrow for another try at the over 200 record.
What a great time, talked to Sam Wheeler, Alan Cathcart, Aaron Wilson, John Noonan, Jason McVicar, pitted with Richard Assen and his pals on the Kiwi Busa that went 244, saw Fritz Egli--- where else can you do that!!
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Greg Watters from Australia on a faired 750 Turbo bike had a pass at 220+ mph.
Jason McVicar made two faired passes at 220 mph and 235 mph.
Richard Assen still fastest at 244+ Mph.
JonAmo
Looks like alot of foreigners Jon...and sheep herders doin well :-D :-D :-D
Hey Gazza , mate, Richard lives in Melbourne , he's doin 'well so we'll claim him as an Aussie for now :-D :-D
Great big up to Greg, couldn't happen to a better bloke , congratulations!
Thanks for the updates Jon.
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Jason McVicar had a 244.xxx pass this morning. This is going to be real close to Richard Assens 244.xxx run. The are within tenths of a mph from each other, because of lack of official results I can't give you a clearer picture of the last three digits.
Max lambky made another pass this morning but was still having some clutch issues.
Ack Attack was preparing for a run this morning also on the 0 mile.
JonAmo
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Jon, are you on the salt? If not where are you getting this good info?
Scott
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he cant help himself.....its been apart of our lives for so long,
the network of the LSR extended family is so tight
that staying in touch is second nature....and so vital to us/him...
it shows you how bringing the lsr world to all of you is just in him....
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And we appreciate all he has done in the past and continues to do. Thanks Jon. Does anybody know if Jon W. has made a pass?
Fred
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i believe he was there to cover the event in part, then
left earlier this week, to return soon for WOS next week
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Thanks for posting, Scott.
Congrats to Johnny, after the bad luck at Speed week, it is nice to see him rebound so quickly and have some good fortune. He works hard on a limited budget and still manages to get it done. If he gets the "double" (faired & unfaired) like Jason did last year, that is a hell of an accomplishment!
Congrats to Jason and Team Guthrie. Talk about a recovery! To crash and then get back on a week later and still be in contention, that is awesome. You and Scott are an inspiration to us all. I have seen that video like 100 times, and I know after my first cartwheel at 243 mph I would have been saying "Well I am not doing THIS again!"
Congrats to Richard Assen. Great job, and you had to travel half way around the world to do it. That is CRAZY logistics. Most people just have to travel half way around our country.
Congrats to Leslie Porterfield, fastetst woman on the planet. Great job, and as someone previously stated, on an engine displacement that is not easy to keep together.
Thanks for all the posts everybody so we can all live vicariuosly through the competetors out there that are getting it done.
Awesome!
Walt
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Oh, and John, I would call you on the phone out there, like I did during Speedweek, but I am not sure how your cellphone is working after a 230+ mph getoff.......
Hopefully it faired as well as Jason? Maybe just a cracked cover? :-D
You know this story is going to go on forever..............LOL!
"Johnny, can you hear me now?" :-o
Stories like this make us all laugh, lord knows there are about two dozen of them circulating about me.....
LOL,
Walt
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Jon, are you on the salt? If not where are you getting this good info?
Scott
Scott,
No I was not on the salt at all during the event. However over the years I have established a great network thru this website, communication skills, satellite Imagery and cell phone bills. I have always liked to stay on top of things, and even though I don't own this website anymore I still find myself knee deep in it all... And I can nothing other then share the information like have done for years... The forum BS I don't miss at all, the lots of late nights I dont miss at all, however I DO MISS being at the events socializing and bringing the information to the computers across the globe in a very timely manner. Just like the time I had Burklands speeds on the internet front page, before they even stopped the vehicle. And when they stopped and called friends and family to let them know how fast, they simply state "We already know" thanks to my speedy postings. I miss it.
JonAmo
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Jon, are you on the salt? If not where are you getting this good info?
Scott
Scott,
No I was not on the salt at all during the event. However over the years I have established a great network thru this website, communication skills, satellite Imagery and cell phone bills. I have always liked to stay on top of things, and even though I don't own this website anymore I still find myself knee deep in it all... And I can nothing other then share the information like have done for years... The forum BS I don't miss at all, the lots of late nights I dont miss at all, however I DO MISS being at the events socializing and bringing the information to the computers across the globe in a very timely manner. Just like the time I had Burklands speeds on the internet front page, before they even stopped the vehicle. And when they stopped and called friends and family to let them know how fast, they simply state "We already know" thanks to my speedy postings. I miss it.
JonAmo
Jon - You have done an amazing job abd we appreciate your efforts, please continue to help keep all of us up to date.
Thanks,
Scott
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Are we going to see the run logs any time soon? Did I miss them? Nothing since the 4th and I'm dying here!
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I'm guessing no. Jon W was the main contact for the first set and it took a little work to get them.
He's offsite & mobile right now so I'm assuming he hasn't gotten them yet. I'm on standby to format
them if they come through but I haven't heard anything yet. Without him on site to stalk them I'm
sure it's a more difficult task. For now we'll have to wait on the phone call updates.
Debbie
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I just back to Long Island late last night and I will post photos after I get the salt off the bike and the truck. Here a few to start off.
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/55chevr/P9030047.jpg)
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/55chevr/P9030046.jpg)
Tom Mellor's 750 Triumph
Joe
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Wow I really like the way he did the bodywork. To bad it's not legal in the SCTA........how fast did he run?
Scott
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182.45 earlier in the week. Havn't seen any updates yet.
Thats very quick for a 1960's 750 triple.
Yamagamma
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by the looks of it it's not legal for AMA either.???
JonAmo
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some photos
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/55chevr/P9030089.jpg)
Aaron Wilson's Buell RR
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/55chevr/P9040096.jpg)
California Fritz
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/55chevr/P9040097.jpg)
1957 Norton V Twin
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(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/55chevr/P9030052.jpg)
Starting line Mile '0" Mountain Course Tuesday morning.
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How did you do Joe?
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by the looks of it it's not legal for AMA either.
JonAmo
I was thinking the same thing. But so far, my experience with AMA is if nobody says anything then, oh well.
Also, Timbo who was riding Aaron's #1987 Buell was in surgery for over 7 hours in SLC and faces more surgery when he gets home. Please keep him in your prayers.
Larry
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I hadn't heard that the 1987 bike crashed. Is Tim ok? What happened?
Jeff
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Also, Timbo who was riding Aaron's #1987 Buell was in surgery for over 7 hours in SLC and faces more surgery when he gets home. Please keep him in your prayers.
Larry
I hadn't heard that the 1987 bike crashed. Is Tim ok? What happened?
Jeff
Is this the broken swing arm that resulted in a compound fracture for the rider?
Jim
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Jon, are you on the salt? If not where are you getting this good info?
Scott
Scott,
No I was not on the salt at all during the event. However over the years I have established a great network thru this website, communication skills, satellite Imagery and cell phone bills. I have always liked to stay on top of things, and even though I don't own this website anymore I still find myself knee deep in it all... And I can nothing other then share the information like have done for years... The forum BS I don't miss at all, the lots of late nights I dont miss at all, however I DO MISS being at the events socializing and bringing the information to the computers across the globe in a very timely manner. Just like the time I had Burklands speeds on the internet front page, before they even stopped the vehicle. And when they stopped and called friends and family to let them know how fast, they simply state "We already know" thanks to my speedy postings. I miss it.
JonAmo
Jon,
A Big Thank You from Me also.Even if I didn't get to make it back after my Speedweek disaster :cry:! Congratulations to Everyone{even You J/N :|} as your hard work is Paying Off again :|!
Jason Your a BAD MOFO to get back on your Horse after Last weeks GETOFF :-o !
I was not able to make it BACK due to problems with my new A Motor swap :cry:!
A big atta Girl to Leslie P.,and her Team for their Great Accomplishments :lol:.
I really wish I could have made it in spite of all my problems.
It pales in what some Racer's{Timbo get well soon} went through ,and my Heart goes out to the Gullet Family and Team :-(.
My Problems are SMALL compaired to some of the other's and pray for quick Healing for them ALL!
Thanks again for the updates,
Kaz............
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When I left the Peppermill on Sunday morning I heard that Ack and Lambsky were going to run on Sunday, does anyone know if they did?
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When I left the Peppermill on Sunday morning I heard that Ack and Lambsky were going to run on Sunday, does anyone know if they did?
Ack ran 315 and last I heard max was still going down the course...he should be done now..J/K I only heard from Mike that Rocky ran the 315..
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Randy,
I did very well ... 151 mph APS/PG 1000 and I ran 140 mph without the fairing in A/PG 1000 ... Joe
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/55chevr/P9030056-1.jpg)
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Some more photos
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/55chevr/P9030073-1.jpg)
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/55chevr/P9030074-1.jpg)
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/55chevr/P9030086-1.jpg)
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Randy,
I did very well ... 151 mph APS/PG 1000 and I ran 140 mph without the fairing in A/PG 1000 ... Joe
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/55chevr/P9030056-1.jpg)
Well done Joe, congrats :-D
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(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd166/55chevr/P9040102.jpg)
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That Harley looks SWEET!
Looks like lots of thought and prep went into that.............
Beautiful execution.
Walt
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If we ever get a run log we can see whose it is and how fast it went. It was in impound which is usually a good sign.
Joe
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That Harley is my husbands - Hiro Koiso - and he did 177.60 for the record!
I am so proud of him!
Thanks guys -
Erin
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Good run ... congratulations ... Joe
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John's correct, we made a Sunday morning run of 315 and change. Took most of the meet to get up to speed. Had our share of gremlins, but to be expected since the Ack Attack had to be rebuilt from the ground up due to our crash at the 07 meet. Mike Akatiff, Ken Puccio and Frank Milburn pretty much worked nonstop to make it happen and I'm fortunate to be a part of such a great team. Jim Leale kept the motors in tune and Jim True and Buzzy Muhlbach made sure I was strapped in so tight I was turning blue (which luckily matched the paint scheme of the machine). We also get great assitance from George (Mike's brother), Christy, and Red, who always make sure whatever is needed is only an arm's length away.
Greg (Mike's son) is the electronics guru and onboard videographer. Between him with his onboard camera and Mike with his Motec downloads, you can't get nothing by these guys! Truth be told, I needed to get a few runs under my belt to regain my confidence from last year's incident. Then to have a dark cloud shadowing the event with Cliff Gullett's horrific accident made it that much tougher. In the end we were able to run her at speed and learn what changes and adjustments need to be made for the upcoming Top One Shootout. The Ack Attack has lots of untapped potential and I'm excited about what's ahead.
I should also note that my wife (Tricia) and Buzzy's wife (Jill) are also there pulling their hair and choking down antacids while pretending to be just fine with what we are doing. I'm one lucky guy and just wanted to say thanks to everyone involved with our project! :cheers:
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John's correct, we made a Sunday morning run of 315 and change. Took most of the meet to get up to speed. Had our share of gremlins, but to be expected since the Ack Attack had to be rebuilt from the ground up due to our crash at the 07 meet. Mike Akatiff, Ken Puccio and Frank Milburn pretty much worked nonstop to make it happen and I'm fortunate to be a part of such a great team. Jim Leale kept the motors in tune and Jim True and Buzzy Muhlbach made sure I was strapped in so tight I was turning blue (which luckily matched the paint scheme of the machine). We also get great assitance from George (Mike's brother), Christy, and Red, who always make sure whatever is needed is only an arm's length away.
Greg (Mike's son) is the electronics guru and onboard videographer. Between him with his onboard camera and Mike with his Motec downloads, you can't get nothing by these guys! Truth be told, I needed to get a few runs under my belt to regain my confidence from last year's incident. Then to have a dark cloud shadowing the event with Cliff Gullett's horrific accident made it that much tougher. In the end we were able to run her at speed and learn what changes and adjustments need to be made for the upcoming Top One Shootout. The Ack Attack has lots of untapped potential and I'm excited about what's ahead.
I should also note that my wife (Tricia) and Buzzy's wife (Jill) are also there pulling their hair and choking down antacids while pretending to be just fine with what we are doing. I'm one lucky guy and just wanted to say thanks to everyone involved with our project! :cheers:
Rocky,
You did awesome and you WILL get the record back!
You make liner riding look easy...watch out though as Sam might "slip" by... :-D
Great seeing you guys again and congrats on your award for top speed of the meet. :cheers:
J
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When I left the Peppermill on Sunday morning I heard that Ack and Lambsky were going to run on Sunday, does anyone know if they did?
Steve D. here, a member of Max's crew. We finally sorted out a few issues - ignition timing, fuel curve, slipper clutch settings, popping out of second gear - and the run Sunday morning started off good, pulling over 5000 RPM in first and second (still a little off on the fuel, should pull more RPM) and then the shaft driving the blower broke. Max is going to figure out the gearing, but he thinks that 5500 RPM in second gear is somewhere around 260 - 270 MPH. This speed was reached between the 2 and 3 mile markers. Once again, the potential of the Vincent liner was evident, but not realized. Obviously, a stronger blower shaft for next year, but no other major changes, so Max will be taking a much deserved rest this coming build season.
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I'm back from the salt and already going through withdrawals....
Deb- I hope I didn't blow out your eardrum over the phone! I was just a little excited :-D Thanks for posting about our progress.
This year was much better for me than last year! I owe it all to Scott and Rhys for building a great machine.
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Leslie,
Congrats.."you have come a long way baby" :cheers:
J
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Leslie,
Congrats.."you have come a long way baby" :cheers:
J
I guess, very impressive and congrats,
Sum
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Leslie,
Congrats.."you have come a long way baby" :cheers:
J
I guess, very impressive and congrats,
Sum
Sum,
What are you "guessing" at?
J
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I just got off the phone with Delvene Manning, reporting to her that the promised run logs and records (pending or certified) and prize winners from the Bub's meet -- still have not shown up in my email inbox.
She was filling her vehicle with fuel in Winnemucca when I spoke to her, so I doubt I'll get any email 'til she's at home (which should be late tonight) and has a chance to catch up. In other words, tomorrow at the earliest.
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Leslie,
Congrats on all your speeds you posted and the records you have set. It's a great accomplishment and riding skill to make it happen :)
JonAmo
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Hi, I just wanted to add my 2 cents as I had a little different perspective this year. I volunteered to be on the BUB staff because blowing up my motor at BUB last year had left the Pepperoni Bros. coffers pretty bare. I chose to run Speedweek, lost a piston and a few other things and was now so broke that I had to hitch a ride out to the salt with the BUB crew. I ended up at the 4 mile position on the mountain course, watching you exit the course through binoculars, calling the course clear on the 2-way, and hearing Tom Burkland tell the starter at mile one or mile zero to release the next bike. This happened very efficiently all week, I was really impressed with how quickly they were able to reverse directions for the return runs, there was very little down time. It kind of reminded me of being in the Army, except doing something REALLY cool, without all the harassment and bullcrap, up at 4:30am, staff meeting at 6, being in position and ready to rock at 7 for the first runs and remaining there for 12 hours, except for a couple of days when I had some help, I was alone and can tell you that nothing sounds so good as the crunching of the tires of the vehicle bringing my lunch which had to be eaten in short shifts between when you left the start line and becoming visible in the binoculars, approx. 30 seconds. Early in the day with the sun behind you, you could see all the way from the 4 mile to the start line, as the day heated up, the ground became "thick", the marking flags semi-visible or distorted, and the oncoming bikes would appear out of a haze somewhere between the 2 and the 3. Most folks turned off the course quickly and efficiently, allowing the next run to proceed, others powered through the 4 and headed down to the 5, a few stopped on the edge of the course, not sure what to do, but the worst thing that happened, at least from my perspective, was the fellow that exited the course after the 3 mile, I called the course clear, another bike was released, and then to our horror, re-entered the course heading towards the 2 mile! Fortunately he turned off as the oncoming bike approached, so he and the load in his pants got a counseling session from Mr. Ramsey. I genuinely enjoyed my staff experience and would encourage anyone to give it a shot, especially those with issues with how things are done. I think you would find a great team of people giving their all to make it happen! The only downer for me was having someone put 30 mph on my 750 M-PG record, ouch! :cry: Have fun, Tom
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Tom, thanks for the interesting perspective of a lonely worker. I would like to thank, thank, thank, you and all of your co-workers for a job well done.
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second that to the vols. also to denis, delvene, linea, ken cooper
and all others for putting on quite a show. my second year on salt
was so more enjoyable than '07. what an awards party also.
looking forward to '09. #62 above is mine.
franey
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Leslie,
Congrats.."you have come a long way baby" :cheers:
J
I guess, very impressive and congrats,
Sum
Sum,
What are you "guessing" at?
J
The "I guess" was agreeing with your comments. I was a little better in math than english 8-), but not much,
Sum
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Sum,
Remember the old Virginia Slims Cigarette ad's?
J
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Sum,
Remember the old Virginia Slims Cigarette ad's?
J
Old :? :?, weren't they out just a couple years ago 8-),
Sum
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Leslie,
Congrats.."you have come a long way baby" :cheers:
J
I guess, very impressive and congrats,
Sum
Sum,
What are you "guessing" at?
J
The "I guess" was agreeing with your comments. I was a little better in math than english 8-), but not much,
Sum
I'm Lost,but what else is New :?
Thank GOD for my UNLV Tutor's 8-)! I have Learning Disability or 2 :oops:!
I Can't Spell,Add,Type,or Sing,but I'm pretty Good at everything else :evil:!
Except maybe Wives and Fancies :| ?
A BIGG ATTA Boy and Girl to our Fast Times for all open-UNFAIRED and MPS/Faired for some Get Record runs! :-o!I WISH YOU A QUICK HEALUP JASON{CALL ME I GOT THE BURN WOUND'S HEALING STUFF FOR YA }
My Heart goes out to the Gullet and Costello FAMILY and Teams :cry:! I hope we can somehow use the data on the crash to prevent this sort of injuries as well as possible IN THE FUTURE?
We can rebuild bike's,but it's allot tuffer with a Human body,but all things are possible with a little FAITH and allot of HARDASS WORK :-)
Thanks for the Call today J/N,and if at All Possible I want that Prerace Entry I just have to make sure my new MOTOR,TURBO SYSTEM, TIRS ,GEARING AND BODY WORK and all will be installed,and tuned before the WOS! If at all Possible I GOTTA GET A CLEAN PASS OR 2,and have it still running after I'm through.
Thanks,
Kaz............
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I'm fluffing up the final run logs right now.
Quick question, if someone does a class change at Bub do they also have to change the bike number like they have to do with SCTA? I'm trying to fill in a few --- no data --- blanks and this answer will help me make things a little more complete.
Thanks!
Debbie
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I'm fluffing up the final run logs right now.
Quick question, if someone does a class change at Bub do they also have to change the bike number like they have to do with SCTA? I'm trying to fill in a few --- no data --- blanks and this answer will help me make things a little more complete.
Thanks!
Debbie
Yes they change the number
I ran P/P as #471 earlier in the week and then #1471 as M/P on Sunday
Thanks for entering the stuff!!!
Mark
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and... how is the class supposed to be notated...
CC frame engine
2000 M AG
or
CC engine frame
2000 AG M
Wait :? what the heck is an AG M ?? A is usually Altered M is usually Modified, G gas.
Is that Modified Altered Gas? What they heck? HELP!!!
(grumbles... no normalization of data...)
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p224/DahMurf/Smileys/beathead.gif)
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Unh, Deb -- AMA class designations are different from ECTA/SCTA, as are FIM. So I'd just list 'em as they appear and let those who know the secret code -- or have the magic decoder keyring -- understand what's being said.
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Yup! I found the AMA secret decoder ring!
See my problem is, for example, that I have vehicle
1302 with class 750 D M and also
1302 with class 750 M D
Clearly the same class but with the letters jumbled.
So in the intrest of trying to make these things usable and meaningful I was trying to at least get them all in the same order for comparison, even if they were wrong! It's nice to be able to pull up all the bikes that ran in 750 M D to see who did what but if the class isn't standardized then it doesn't work. And since just about every vehicle I looked at had their own class written differently I was trying to fix it!
But now that I finally found the AMA secret decoder ring I think I can do it right! I knew the FIM's were WAY different so I was momentarily stumped! :wink:
Debbie
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DEB
9216 - APS/PG 1000
921
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DEB,
I will try this again ... yes, you need a new number ...
9216 - APS/PG 1000
921 - A/PG 1000
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9/2-9/6 run logs.
This is one spreadsheet with all runs together for both courses sorted by date then time then course.
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9/2-9/6 run logs.
This is one spreadsheet file with two worksheets. One with just the long course runs. One with just the short course runs. Sorted by date then time.
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9/2-9/6 run logs.
This is one text file with all runs together for both courses sorted by date then time then course.
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Thank You
Thank You !
Thank You ! !
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My feelings, exactly. Thank you very much, Deb.
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You're Welcome! :-)
This should hopefully hold us over until the next salt fix (WOS)!
Debbie
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Someone care to explain to me what the rest of the world is doing wrong?
Date # Name Class Kilo Mile
09/03/08 240 Tom Mellor 750 MPS PG 182.450 182.304
182mph on a 750cc gasoline pushrod engine! :-o
Todd
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I'd love to hear about the awards if anyone can recall from the banquet while we're waiting for the official word. Here's my guesses based on what I've read so far.
Top Time of the Meet $5,000 Rocky Robinson - Top 1 Ack Attack 315 mph
Top Time for a 'Sit-on' Motorcycle $5,000 John Noonan 251 mph
Top Time for an 'Open' (naked) Motorcycle $5,000 John Noonan 238 mph
Top Time Miles per hour per CC ratio $2,500
Top Time, American V-Twin $1,000 Jon Minonno 220 mph
Top Time Antique Motorcycle $500
Top Time Motorcycle with Sidecar $800
Top Time Streamliner with Sidecar $800 John Renwick 156 mph
Women's Spirit Award $1,000
Women's Spirit Award supporter $1,000
Enthusiast of the year $1,000
Coolest Pit Bike beer/trophy
Best Engineered $1,000
Cleanest Pit Area $250
Anymore input to fill in this list?
Thanks!
Debbie
(hey what's with all the John/Jon's on this list? lol )
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My guess on top mph/cc would have be Buddfab around 2.8mph :roll:
Todd
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Someone care to explain to me what the rest of the world is doing wrong?
Date # Name Class Kilo Mile
09/03/08 240 Tom Mellor 750 MPS PG 182.450 182.304
182mph on a 750cc gasoline pushrod engine! :-o
Todd
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p224/DahMurf/Smileys/scratchhead.gif) (http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p224/DahMurf/Smileys/shrug.gif)
I wonder if anyone verified if it actually had pushrods? :-o
Anybody got a pic of this steroid of a pushrod bike?
Debbie
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V-Twin award im sure went to John Minnono with a 220+ pass on a Harley Engine..
JonAmo
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Count me in on the thank you ... thank you ... thank you.
Joe
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I'd love to hear about the awards if anyone can recall from the banquet while we're waiting for the official word. Here's my guesses based on what I've read so far.
Top Time of the Meet $5,000 Rocky Robinson - Top 1 Ack Attack 315 mph
Top Time for a 'Sit-on' Motorcycle $5,000 John Noonan 251 mph
Top Time for an 'Open' (naked) Motorcycle $5,000 John Noonan 238 mph
Top Time Miles per hour per CC ratio $2,500
Top Time, American V-Twin $1,000
Top Time Antique Motorcycle $500
Top Time Motorcycle with Sidecar $800
Top Time Streamliner with Sidecar $800 John Renwick 156 mph
Women's Spirit Award $1,000
Women's Spirit Award supporter $1,000
Enthusiast of the year $1,000
Coolest Pit Bike beer/trophy
Best Engineered $1,000
Cleanest Pit Area $250
Anymore input to fill in this list?
Thanks!
Debbie
You bet, Debbie.
I didn't attend the banquet, so I was quite surprised to read that John Renwick got the side car streamliner $800 prize money for achieving a speed of 156 mph. I have a side car streamliner, and Don Angel, riding that side car streamliner got a timing slip of 166 mph+.
Will someone in authority please explain why Lambky's Liner/Black Lightning didn't get the $800 as it was the faster of the two?
Max
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Max,
According to the run log they have you in the 3000 S PBF class. To the best of my knowledge the S would indicate Streamliner. I believe you would have needed to be in the class 3000 SCS PBF since SCS is Sidecar Streamliner.
That's my take on it. I'm still sitting in Virginia so you'll need to work all that out with Bub. I'm just speculating on what I see.
Hope you can get it worked out!
Debbie
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STREAMLINING ----- deb i will make some guesses here but its just for comparison----if your bike has a cd of .561 and a frontal area of 6.01 it would take you 184.7 rear wheel hp to go 200 mph----if you changed the cd to .3 and the frontal area to 5.5 (both do able) you could go 251 mph with 184.5 hp just some thoughts------willie buchta
thanks deb for all of your work getting all the runs posted for bub
251 wasnt that the speed that JN ran for the $5000
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Max,
I looked over the logs again after speaking with Todd. He said y'all ran with & without the sidecar. I looked and they have you down running under bike 785 and 2785 but both have the same class. I guess you can get that sidecar on & off pretty quick since you were running with & without in the same day. Looks like someone messed up the paperwork someplace. Why would you go to the trouble of paying two entries & running two numbers if you weren't planning to be in 2 classes!
Hope you get it worked out!
Debbie
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Jon Minono won the fastest American V-twin with a pass of 220.
I think the 750 going 180+ was the English guy with the rolls royce tow rig. I think it was a triumph or something like that.
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That fast 750 M-PG was a Triumph Trident with Amal carbs yet! No one was more surprised than me to see him make those kind of speeds. When I heard it go by, I thought it had a speed triple motor in it. I knew that if anyone built a stout Trident or even a CX Honda I'd have some trouble but not THAT much. My motor guy, Mike Rich, says they have real short pushrods, can spin to 11K, and make some serious power. Oh well, I'll have to be happy going tit for tat with the San Jose BMW guys.
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Max,
I looked over the logs again after speaking with Todd. He said y'all ran with & without the sidecar. I looked and they have you down running under bike 785 and 2785 but both have the same class. I guess you can get that sidecar on & off pretty quick since you were running with & without in the same day. Looks like someone messed up the paperwork someplace. Why would you go to the trouble of paying two entries & running two numbers if you weren't planning to be in 2 classes!
Hope you get it worked out!
Debbie
Thanks Debbie.
I paid my entry fee for two riders and two classes. I received from Delvene four numbers. 785 was Don Angel's side car number. 2785 was Hartmut Weidelich's side car number. ALL RUNS MADE DURING THE 2008 BUB MEET WERE MADE WITH THE SIDE CAR ATTACHED.
The side car WAS NEVER REMOVED to make a solo run. The numbers without the side car for solo runs, given me by Delvene were 1785 for Don Angel, and 3785 for Hartmut Weidelich. ALL RUNS MADE DURING THE 2008 BUB MEET BY LAMBKY'S LINER/BLACK LIGHTNING WERE MADE WITH THE SIDE CAR ATTACHED.
Max
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Thanks for the info NRHS & Tom.
That is unbelievably outstanding for a 750 pushrod!
Short pushrods eh? 11k, wow! good to know, good to know....
Debbie
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Tom Mellor's bike is a 750 Triumph triple and yes it has pushrods. Its also very slippery. Heres a link to some photos. Goes to prove you don't need one of those spinny, whirly things to go fast.
http://www.caferacer.net/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8172
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Thanks Debbie.
I paid my entry fee for two riders and two classes. I received from Delvene four numbers. 785 was Don Angel's side car number. 2785 was Hartmut Weidelich's side car number. ALL RUNS MADE DURING THE 2008 BUB MEET WERE MADE WITH THE SIDE CAR ATTACHED.
The side car WAS NEVER REMOVED to make a solo run. The numbers without the side car for solo runs, given me by Delvene were 1785 for Don Angel, and 3785 for Hartmut Weidelich. ALL RUNS MADE DURING THE 2008 BUB MEET BY LAMBKY'S LINER/BLACK LIGHTNING WERE MADE WITH THE SIDE CAR ATTACHED.
Max
Looks like you have a phone call to make! :|
I know how disappointing it is to work hard and have the paperwork not right. (I guess that's why I'm such a nerd & always end up helping with this stuff!)
I hope Bub can make it right for you & John Renwick both.
Good luck & let us know how it works out for both of you!
Debbie
PS: Remember, you catch more bees with honey! ;) Most of the paper pushers are overworked, underpaid and respond a lot better to people being nice & understanding! :-)
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Tom Mellor's bike is a 750 Triumph triple and yes it has pushrods. Its also very slippery. Heres a link to some photos. Goes to prove you don't need one of those spinny, whirly things to go fast.
http://www.caferacer.net/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8172
Awesome!!!! Thanks for the link! Excellent job there with that speed!
(I can just feel Todd pulling out the rulebook to check that fairing! LOL )
Debbie
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Don't bother. Its been done already. The back end is dead illegal.
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Definately illegal for SCTA.
The way I read the rules it's not far out for AMA. They only require 180 deg of rear tire visable. They have no rule about past the rear axel as SCTA does. So, from what I can tell from the pics he needs to trim the area in the front section of the rear tire. Visability might be an issue also but I can't tell without a rider.
Or am I missing something.
Larry :cheers:
Thanks for the smileys Deb...
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Just to make sure you are saying the back end of the triumph was NOT legal??
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in the rear pic (3rd one down) it looks like a section is removeable-- if thats the case would that make it legal for scta willie buchta
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Just to make sure you are saying the back end of the triumph was NOT legal??
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's close but not quite from what I can tell from the pics. To me it looks like the front part of the rear tire is covered by the fairing. Where the tail section cuts a parallel line to the ground at the rear axel needs to continue forward maybe another 6" to completely expose 180 deg of the rear tire.
Whadaya think? Agree or dissagree. Or am I still missing sumpin.
Larry
Willie, I saw that section too and figured it was for removing the rear tire but it might make it legal for SCTA also...
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That 750's body/frame is certainly beyond any question of class legality (and it would be nice to know what it would do naked of course)... but I'm more interested in the legality of it's motor is in a pushrod class (be it AMA/FIM, SCTA, etc).
Any idea what the length of it's stroke and it's pushrods are (or what the cam to deck hieght relation is)?
Not trying to take anything away from anyone, that's an awesome speed for that bike no matter what the setup is... just trying to learn something here.
Todd
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I am not certain that Motorcycle Streamliners count, but would the Cliff Gullett-Jack Costella 7070 streamliner which ran a last mile at 237.945 with 497 cc in the 500 cc class qualify for the MPH/CC prize with an average of 4.7589 if 500 cc and 4.7876 if 497 cc.
I know that the rules call for the unit to be impounded, and would ask that BUB consider the circumstance of the accident in any decision regarding this matter.
Obviously we are hoping for ratification of the speeds Cliff ran on his two runs the day of his accident.
As has been posted, Cliff's memorial is Saturday, and we hope you will keep Leanne, Casey and Nicole in your prayers.
I know that Cliff wishes you all GODSPEED, and as I used to say to him each time he left the dealership for the salt - GO FAST! BE SAFE! I wish the same for all of you.
Curt Lance
General Manager
Team Bozeman Motorsports
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mellors has a great rear wheel disk also....didnt know they were
legal...
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I thinking legal for SCTA. Can't say about BUB, AMA, FIM. Maybe they aren't as fussy. Regardless is is one slippery sob and the speed is just plain incredible!
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Hi Curt,
The decimal seems to have been misplaced there and the 7070 bike's run actually comes out to about .48 mph per cc (240mph divided by 500cc - nom.). I am very certain that the liners count and that is why I mentioned the Buddfab liner at 2.8mph per cc (140mph divided by 50cc - nom.). Both outstandfing feats for sure, but the very little cc bikes will always win a battle of this type as the math is in their favor from the get go just as it is for the liners themselves.
I was under the assumption that Cliff's record had been certified and granted, is this so?
Thanks for posting and letting us know about the memorial arrangements, and for sharing some of Cliff with us when you can.
Our thoughts are with the family and each of you that were close to him... and we will certainly have Cliff in our thoughts this saturday as well.
Todd
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Curt,
I did the teardown on behalf of Cliff, the family and Jack C as well, Cliff will be awarded the AMA record and pending ratification he will receive the FIM record once the paperwork is taken care of in Geneva.
RIP Cliff you rocked and helped make Bonneville the greatest place on earth..
I fully expect Casey to start racing in the next 6+ years..he has been bit as well by the salt bugs..
J
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Deb, you have carried your Maxton Volunteer skills to BUB with the same efficiency that you demonstrate at Maxton.
I am so happy that we met on the Salt. It is inevitable that you will have a very successful career as a Salt racer.
You deserve it and Todd will be there to support you in all ways.
Folks, she's little but mighty.
FREUD
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are the Sunday results scheduled to post in the near future ?
Thanks a million ,
raycwheeler # 1944
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Last night returned from the BUB..........we upped our class sidecar record, but it is still a "soft" record. With the wind conditions the dustbin fairing did not work for us.....for next year I will be rethinking our sidecar fairing.
My thanks to our driver Larry Coleman and passenger Warren Ryan for a outstanding job.
And many thanks to John Noonan for helping us on our gearing. Regarding, the $1600.00 I put up for the sidecar class.....we won our own money back and will roll it over to next year. The $800.00 going to the streamliner sidecar class
will have to be sorted out by the BUB officials......
that part is out of my hands.....I just put up the dollars. Thanks to all the people that helped make this BUB a outstanding meet.
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Congratulations to John Noonan and Leslie and all the other winners.
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Okay, let's get back to the good things that happened at Bub's, not the scandalous(?!). Please remember the times when we'd be upset at diatribes aimed at FR or others -- and, if you feel it necessary to scold someone, do it personally,not in the public forum.
Thanks for your understanding and (I hope) cooperation.
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Sounds like one of those "you had to be there moments" which is difficult to understand as written and I fail to see the point of doing so. I spoke to Leslie Friday evening while she was in Noonan's pit so if I had to guess I would tend to think it was just a little razzing amongst friends which you misinterpreted. A lot of us with our friends will say embarrassing things just for the fun of embarrassing them. (being a woman racer it comes with the territory and you need to come in with thick skin to survive & not be continually offended) At any rate, if you thought his actions inappropriate then you should contact the Bonneville authorities privately and also let him know you thought he was out of line privately as well. Posting it on here will do nothing to make this right if he truly was wrong.
Just my thoughts.
Debbie
PS: I'll be happy to delete my post if the aforemention post is decidedly removed by the author.
PSS: Come to think of it, that was probably just his way of inviting her to dinner Friday night with himself & Jason (along with the SO's & other crew). Hey nobody said he had any couth! As far as I know that's not a requirement for LSR! (good thing for some of us too! :-D ) I dunno, it all sound written tongue in cheek. This is where the smileys are helpful so we have some clue of the intent. (http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p224/DahMurf/Smileys/shrug.gif)
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Soooo.....
Any more input on the prize list?
Top Time of the Meet $5,000........................................Rocky Robinson - Top 1 Ack Attack 315 mph #899
Top Time for a 'Sit-on' Motorcycle $5,000......................John Noonan 251 mph #5391
Top Time for an 'Open' (naked) Motorcycle $5,000.........John Noonan 238 mph #539
Top Time Miles per hour per CC ratio $2,500..................Eric Noyes/Team Buddfab #494
Top Time, American V-Twin $1,000..............................Jon Minonno 220 mph #1161
Top Time Antique Motorcycle $500
Top Time Motorcycle with Sidecar $800........................Bakker Motorsports at 148.733 mph #1194
Top Time Streamliner with Sidecar $800......................John Renwick 156 mph #202 (possibly Black Lightning/Lambky's Liner at 166 mph #785)
Women's Spirit Award $1,000.....................................Leslie Porterfield
Women's Spirit Award supporter $1,000......................Belen Wagner
Enthusiast of the year $1,000
Coolest Pit Bike beer/trophy
Best Engineered $1,000..............................................Roger Goldhammer #39 - 1000 APS PBF
Cleanest Pit Area $250
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Flyboy your comment about Mr. Noonan being part of the SCTA is unfair. SCTA has nothing to do with the BUB meet. Because he is a member as were many more at the meet makes your statement about SCTA makes all of SCTA look like a bunch of jerks. I think if you have personal issues with Mr. Noonan deal with him and leave SCTA out of it as they have no dog in this verbal fight.
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Deb. correction on: Top Time of motorcycle with sidecar............Bakker Motorsports= 148.733mph.
Best Engineering: = Roger Goldhammer.................
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I was hoping the statements about JN was a joke. Glad to know it was.
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Deb. correction on: Top Time of motorcycle with sidecar............Bakker Motorsports= 148.733mph.
Best Engineering: = Roger Goldhammer.................
Thanks! Have we seen any pics of Roger's bike? (this thread is getting long!)
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Hmmm, makes me wonder if I was out of line when I tried trading my wife to the starter for an upgrade in license. Hey, he bit and we both almost had her talked into it as well.
Todd
PS: Flyboy, if your comment wasn't a joke (i figured that was when i first read it)Leslie is a big girl that appears fully capable of putting someone in their place should she see the need, and John is a big hearted man that loves to get a smile wiht off th ewall comments that aren't intended to harm. So I'm guessing whatever you heard should of been taken with (approriattley in this case) a grain of salt and the source considered. It certainly has nothing to do with him being with "that SCTA group" though. Maybe it was because of th eclub he is in, or possibly because of where he lives... no it's gotta be that dang bad boy Hayabusa motorcycle image he needs to portray out there - yeah, that's it!
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Guys/Gals..
I believe he was kidding and the poor lass is a tough as nails successful woman and the man in her life knows that I am not only a fan of her racing talents that I also worked with them between runs to try to help her achieve her goals on the Production bike which she did. :cheers:
If I am wrong then the gentlemen in question can correspond directly with me should he see fit and if Leslie or the man in her life, Scott or anyone else present had an issue with our bantering/kidding I am sure something would have been said before we all drove over to the banquet together or while we all sat at the same table upon arrival.
Dang where is the remote..looks like as the drama turns and it might be a durned repeat..
Deb top time for the money run was Rocky however it was only about 285 at that time and later after the money runs were over (Saturday) did Rocky run the stellar 315 mph run.
Erik and John won the $ 2,500.00 for top MPH to CC
Womens Spirt award was issued from Erin Hunter to none other than Leslie Porterfield who seemed very overwhelmed and them after thinking for a while she then asked that it go to Belan Wagner for what she has done in LSR and for being there in support of the ladies and their racing however she may have said it a bit differently.
J
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Deb top time for the money run was Rocky however it was only about 285 at that time and later after the money runs were over (Saturday) did Rocky run the stellar 315 mph run.
Ok, money runs end on Saturday. Got it, I'm learning. I'm guessing the banquet is Saturday night then?
Erik and John won the $ 2,500.00 for top MPH to CC
K. gimme a little more detail here, like last names, bike #? I don't want to guess too much!
Womens Spirit award was issued from Erin Hunter to none other than Leslie Porterfield who seemed very overwhelmed and them after thinking for a while she then asked that it go to Belan Wagner for what she has done in LSR and for being there in support of the ladies and their racing however she may have said it a bit differently.
Clarification... Did she keep the award AND list Belan as the supporter or decline the entire award to be given to Belan?
Thanks for the input!
Debbie
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YEs Deb the $ runs and banquet are on Saturday.
Eric Noyes and John Buddenbaum for the Streamliner that won best mph to CC prize..
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Have we seen any pics of Roger's bike?
Yes, here:
Roger Goldammer's Bonneville Harley-Davidson
http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,4445.msg59479.html
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Have we seen any pics of Roger's bike?
Yes, here:
Roger Goldammer's Bonneville Harley-Davidson
http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,4445.msg59479.html
Ahhh ok thanks! Yup, should have known it was that one! :-D
Debbie
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Dennis Manning said this was to be a week of fun.... and it was.
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We need to get Leslie on here to comment about the Spirit award and who and why she chose Belan, I have great pictures however I have not uploaded them yet.
Now Jason and I have to look over our backs not to just each other but to the Kiwis and some woman from Texas nipping at our (high) heels :cheers:
Funny thing was that not a picture was taken when I was on the back of Jasons bike pleading to let me ride it (it's faster than mine) or atleast have him tow my bike to it's best speed ever... :wink:
Leslie, Jason, Richard you and your teams all worked very hard and this was the best Bubs event ever aside from Cliffs accident.
J
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Bub was an unbelieveable week of fun! Great people and great humor. :-D :-D :-D
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I took a handful of photos of Roger leaving the line (and waiting, too) and tried to post them -- as the batteries in the laptop went dead. I'll be sitting in the truck tomorrow on the way to WoS - and will again try to get 'em up here.
Yeah, Bub's was fun -- from our standpoint of watching and "reporting", not from running -- which we chose not to do.
We plan to do the same watch-but-not-run at WF this year, but we'll definitely run at World of Speed -- will have the stock ZX14R with maybe a doodad here and there appended, and also the ZX12R's first outing with the new crankshaft. Whoo-hoo, rides for both of us -- and fun for Todd, watching from the line. Bringing your leathers, sir -- just in case Nancy allows you to ride her bike and I let you ride mine, and you get your "A" license this time?
Just teasing -- I'll have my spare leathers, and they oughta fit your skinny butt. Helmets and gloves shouldn't be a problem, and boots -- well, have you ever traveled via airplane while wearing racing boots?
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It was quite an honor to receive the Spirit award. I chose the first person I met last year on my way to the salt. I was in DFW airport talking motorcycles with Al. Belen came over and introduced herself. She told me about some of her accomplishments. When I wrecked, she sent me a card and a plant with band-aids! I was worried that after my crash, I would not be accepted very well back on the salt. She has been supportive and always gracious. Also, she said she blew the motor on one of her bikes. I wanted to make a contribution to her repair fund!!
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I presume that's you, Leslie. Let me be one of the first to remind you (now that yo've experienced it) that crashing on the salt doesn't make you a pariah. Nor do the simpler things, like running out of fuel or spinning - and on and on. Many/most of us have done at least one of these things, and it usually brings a smile ("Ive done that too, so I shouldn't say anything about you doing it.) and then a nod of understanding.
Welcome to the Forum (now that I know who you are). And thanks for spelling Belen's name correctly.
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Jon, Leslie is also in the Gear Grinders as are a few other lady riders that are fast :-)
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Hey, so am I in the GG. I just have never been to a meeting. One of these days, one of these days, I will.
Maybe, if things go right, Nancy and I will be at the November EM event, and if that's the case -- maybe we can work in enough time to get to a meeting. Don't hold me to the fire on this one, but such things are possible with our new-found freedom. However -- Nancy today began getting the artwork for her next tattoos, and soon after WF she goes under the needle once again. That might keep us from EM.
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Jon, Leslie is also in the Gear Grinders as are a few other lady riders that are fast :-)
Yep Susan and Connie.. :-D
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Thanks Slim!
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Congratulations on all your accomplishments and awards. Always good to see a Texas lady do very good. It was nice talking to you at SW. Will you be coming to Goliad next month?
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Jon, Leslie is also in the Gear Grinders as are a few other lady riders that are fast :-)
Yep Susan and Connie.. :-D
Hmmm...maybe that's the club I should join so I can be with the fast chicks! :lol:
Leslie, thanks for the clarification on the award. That was a very cool thing for you to do! Congratulations to you both! :cheers:
Debbie
PS: As for the acceptance thing, I think the big thing is showing up & getting back on the bike after a wreck. Not that it's a requirement or would be any less respectful to decide to hang up the helmet, but showing back up and trying again demonstrates that one is in it for the speed! I think it's easier for us all to accept and respect those that share our passion. You came back, laid it down on the track and rode the hell out of those bikes. Some of the old coots may try to deny it (not our favorite Glen of course) but the rest of us can't help but respect it! Ya done good chickie and we're glad we got to see you make some of your runs!! Meeting Connie at SW was another great moment! 70 years young! I hope the heck I can still ride at 70 let alone running consistently over 200!
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Deb,
Connie is not 70 years old :x
She is 70 years young :wink:
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You're right! (never thought I'd say that! :roll: )
I fixed it! Thanks!
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Thanks Deb. It was great to meet you on the salt at SW! I hope to see you out there again soon. Last year I took a stock Busa to El Mirage in Novenber after my accident. I wanted to get back out there as soon as possible. I was still sore, but I'm hard-headed. I am very thankful to have had a remarkable couple of weeks on the salt this time! Connie is a huge inspiration! She is one fast lady, regardless of age! The way she got back out there after her crash was amazing. I need to get her autograph next time I see her. I want to hang it in my shop.
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John, you forgot Dr. Jeanne Pflum who is a member of the 200 and 300 MPH clubs in Seth Hammons lakester, she is working on the 200 mph on a motor cycle. Cathy Butler Runs in a smaller class and is a record holder at the lakes and on the salt. A couple of others are Sheri Buthta, and Katrina Herbert. Oh we have a few that drive cars as well. One of the great clubs. :-D
Tonya Turk is a "AA" license holder as well at 250mph
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Wow Glen, all of those Gals are in the same club?
Cool!
Debbie
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Sorry Glen..I was just referring to the two wheels types...if deb gets fast :wink: you can have her as well..? :-D
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Yep and a few more that are support workers, our membership is around 160 now :cheers: :-D
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We will be honored to have her,& Todd. :cheers:
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We will be honored to have her,& Todd. :cheers:
No way Glen, we already called dibs on Todd...check our roster..btw, we are at 179 however only 35 race I think?
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Yeah John but a lot of them have GREEN CARDS,lol
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Glen,
Now that is funny.... :cheers:
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John I know a few of them as well. They wear the yellow shirts with a BEAN on them, all a great bunch of guys, many I have known since the early 50s. :-o
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Glen I know you were refering to the color of their SCTA license :roll:
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John I know a few of them as well. They wear the yellow shirts with a BEAN on them, all a great bunch of guys, many I have known since the early 50s. :-o
Glen,
Not many OG BB's left...they had to adopt Richard Lux just to have someone "more mature" than the current members.. :mrgreen:
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If I get faster??? You do know you have claims to the slower of us two eh? (http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p224/DahMurf/Smileys/batting_eyelashes.gif)
I'm still making records isn't that really what it's all about? (http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p224/DahMurf/Smileys/teasing.gif)
Debbie
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Deb,
Not if but when... :cheers:
What are you faster than me at... :-D
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Deb,
Not if but when... :cheers:
What are you faster than me at... :-D
A lot of things but they aren't appropriate for this forum! :-P
I meant the faster of the Dross family! :-D
Debbie
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Deb,
Not if but when... :cheers:
What are you faster than me at... :-D
A lot of things but they aren't appropriate for this forum! :-P
I meant the faster of the Dross family! :-D
Debbie
Except on the salt.... :-D I think he is just a few MPH ahead... :roll:
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Deb,
Not if but when... :cheers:
What are you faster than me at... :-D
A lot of things but they aren't appropriate for this forum! :-P
I meant the faster of the Dross family! :-D
Debbie
Except on the salt.... :-D I think he is just a few MPH ahead... :roll:
Yeah yeah yeah... but I didn't get to ride the big bike now did I?
This was all a plan to restore his manhood wasn't it? :-D
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Sorry Todd, sending your $20 back, she is on to us... :|
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Thanks Jon - Nancy - and Deb for all the updates. You must have blisters on your fingers by now. Kudos to Rex and his timing crew, and all the BUB volunteers for puting on a fun filled event. Every year it gets better and better. Most of all a big time thanks to Denis Maning for creating a motorcycle only event on the salt. All the LSR people I have met the last several years at Maxton, and Bonneville are the nicest, coolest people on the planet. Hope to see some of yaz at Maxton in Oct.
Respectfully
Jimbo Fischer, #74 the Gray Ghost Project M/PP 1350 - and the happy recipient of the Buell Bros. 2008 Enthusiast of the year award. :-D
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Well done to the BUB team for a great job this year - I speak for all the folk in our pit area in congratulating the BUB folk for a job well done.
I never fail to be humbled by the generosity, friendliness and presence of legends when at the salt.
It is a big effort - and cost - for us 'down-unders' to travel halfway round the world to come to these events and it could not be done without the support of our contacts here in the USA - thanks a heap :cheers:
Greg Watters, myself, Fireman Jim, Staytie, Jason Swan and all the other bods in our pit area left the event really satisfied with the whole deal - our fast times, new friends and three 201mph club hats.
John Noonan and Jason McVicar have always inspired me and I really felt I was in the company of great riders last week and the event wouldn't be the same without you guys - oh yeah and now Leslie too - she's really teachin the guys a thing or two now.
Hopefully we will catch up with a few folk at WOS too
Cheers
Richard
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Richard,
Your team is a great inspiration to all racers.
Build a bike and bring it and the team half way around the world and run 250mph.
Very impressive effort. I have no doubt that you will run 260 mph in the near future.
Congrats,you guys beat me by a mile(actually 4or 5 mph!)
Jason McVicar
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Thanks for that Jason, it was great to meet you at the salt and share some knowledge.
If you ever want to know anything about the bike just let me know.
I'm sure you could have run a faster time if you weren't saddled with your injuries which would have been very painful in the crouched position I'm sure. Hope you heal up soon
Cheers
Richard
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Jason, I do think that Mr. Assen's here right now, and he's not talking about slacking off just to give you some breathing room. Keep an eye on this site for some results.
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The awards and run logs are posted on the Bub site. I didn't see records listed and the Sunday run log page is missing/broken link.
http://www.speedtrialsbybub.com/2008_event/results08.html (http://www.speedtrialsbybub.com/2008_event/results08.html)
Here's the list of awards:
Award Team/Rider Speed
Sponsor
Top Time of the Meet Top 1 Ack Attack/ Rocky Robinson 285.235mph
Sponsored by BUB Enterprises
Top Time Sit On Motorcycle John Noonan 251.561mph
Sponsored by BUB Enterprises
Top Time Open Motorcycle John Noonan 237.035mph
Sponsored by BUB Enterprises
Top Time MPH-CC Ratio Buddfab/ John Buddenbaum 147.010mph- 50cc
Sponsored by BUB Enterprises
Top Time American V-Twin JB Racing/Jon Minonno 220.969mph
Sponsored by NRHS V-Twin Performance
Top Time Antique Motorcycle California Fritz/Fritz Klinger 226.227mph
Sponsored by Spectro Performance Oils
Top Time Motorcycle with Side Car Bakker Motorsports/Larry Coleman 148.733mph
Sponsored by Bakker Motorsports (Passenger- Warren Ryan)
Top Time Streamliner with Side Car John Renwick 156.876mph
Sponsored by Bakker Motorsports
Women's Spirit Award Leslie Porterfield
Sponsored by Potter Lumber (Nominated Belen Wagner as her source of encouragement)
Enthusiast of the Year Award The Grey Ghost Project/Jim Fischer
Sponsored by Buell Bros Racing
Best Engineered Roger Goldammer
Sponsored by BUB Enterprises
Cleanest Pit Area Team Klockwerks
Sponsored by Landracing.com
Coolest Pit Bike Guynes & Sons
Sponsored by Buell Sisters Racing
'Lucky Charms' Recipients Leslie Porterfield
John Yeats
Hiro Koiso
Anyone know what the 'Lucky Charms' award was?
Debbie
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Anyone know what the 'Lucky Charms' award was?
Debbie
I believe the award goes to the participant who leave the most parts on the salt after a run. :cry:
The big winner was John Yeats.
I am "Lucky" enough to have Leslie's box of Lucky Charms (personalized with autograph) sitting next to my other LSR trophies! :cheers:
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Funny! Cute name for the award!
Debbie
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i've got a box of parts for ya Scott...inside you'll find i crank, 3 carrillo rods, and a bunch of tranny parts...... not very pretty
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Well done Richard. I remember running in your neck of the woods in 2000 (Lake Gairdner) and what a fun bunch of guys over there. Richard, or anyone else reading this, I need a hi-res picture of Richard and his machine, either in the pits or on the course for an article I'm writing that is due soon. Sorry I missed the photo op! We were pretty caught up in our own racing program and I failed to get a shot of the fastest Aussie on the planet. My bad!
If available, please send to: rockjok6@sbcglobal.net (please include photo credit)
Thank you!
Rocky Robinson
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Geeesh, not literally. I was just impressed with his performances on the salt... It takes a huge effort to travel halfway across the planet and give it your all. 250 mph anywhere is fast...
Rocky
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Richard is a Kiwi, although he lives and works in Melboune, Australia. The bike is tuned by Jason Swan who lives and works in Auckland, New Zealand, the effot this year was sponsered by a NZ company called Award Attachments, who make heavy lifting stuff for scrap metal.
It certinatly is a great effot from the boys, and although thay are not aussies, we will claim them as the fastest from down under, period. 8-)
Rocky, i will pm you a contact,,,,
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Today, The Californian published an article about Rocky:
Feeling the need for speed
...It would be awhile before the Top 1 Ack Attack team would have a legitimate shot to take the record back after its bike hit 300 mph on the salt flats and tumbled 12 times. Akatiff said that pursuit of the record was the main reason he crashed. "When the bike wobbled, he pulled off. Then it started to do a side to side and he punched the throttle," he said.
Robinson would come out of the accident unscathed, but the bike was completely destroyed. "I went for it," he said. "We were right at 300 and going at world record pace when I crashed. What was scary about it is that the canopy tore off and all the salt started shoveling in."
The Top 1 Ack Attack team brought its rebuilt bike back to Bonneville a little more than a year after their crash. This time, they would leave their competitors reeling after setting a record that left no doubt. His speed beat Manning and the BUB team by a full 10 mph. "They got the best rider and the best bike for now, but we'll be back," Manning said. "He's the king and there's no discounting it."
With the world record in hand, there's a chance that Robinson could retire after 40 years behind the handlebars, but there is a condition. "If nobody beats my record anytime soon, it's time to retire," he said. "But, I'm still fit enough to go out there and do it again."
Full article:
http://www.thecalifornian.com/article/20081017/SPORTS/810170318
Dave
http://www.roadsters.com/
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Anyone know what the 'Lucky Charms' award was?
Debbie
I believe the award goes to the participant who leave the most parts on the salt after a run. :cry:
The big winner was John Yeats.
I am "Lucky" enough to have Leslie's box of Lucky Charms (personalized with autograph) sitting next to my other LSR trophies! :cheers:
It sure was Great being The FIRST LUCKY CHARMS BOX AWARD WINNER,and I Still have it with my 4 Leaf Clover in my Trophy case :mrgreen:!!! It's Broken like the Rest of my Stuff :cry:..........