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Offline Seldom Seen Slim

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Re: "E" Gas Coupe Build
« Reply #75 on: February 29, 2012, 01:46:59 PM »
Better still:  I've got what seems to be a lifetime supply of them, winning them in the annual gift-giving dinner parties and such.  Give me an address and I'll send one or two.
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Re: "E" Gas Coupe Build
« Reply #76 on: February 29, 2012, 04:42:36 PM »
Hey Tony, take a few of the bucks you guys are saving doing your own aerospace work and buy a new tape measure.............. or two.  :-D

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Re: "E" Gas Coupe Build
« Reply #77 on: February 29, 2012, 04:46:13 PM »
I agree, sweet looking brakes.  What's the story behind them being banned for NASCAR use?

Steve.

In the days of  a good economy one of the top tier teams contracted with Rapco (they build brakes for airplanes) to come up with a blade rotor and caliper system that could be used at Daytona and Talladega to cut down on drag.  When Brembo got wind of it they also jumped in and started supplying a few teams with their version of the system for the two super speedway races. In trying to level the playing field NASCAR decided that the costs for the smaller teams were two high and banned them form use in competition. (for a one car team your looking at four sets and possibly more for just two races).  Tony
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Re: "E" Gas Coupe Build
« Reply #78 on: February 29, 2012, 04:49:11 PM »
That tape is good. My Dad got along for years with the first inch cut off of his. A piece of black tape took care of the end up to the 3/8" mark. When it came time to cut the tape back to 2" I bought him a new one.

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Re: "E" Gas Coupe Build
« Reply #79 on: February 29, 2012, 06:54:03 PM »
." In trying to level the playing field NASCAR decided that the costs for the smaller teams were two high and banned them form use in competition. (for a one car team your looking at four sets and possibly more for just two races).  Tony"

Amazing how NASCAR is so concerned about the financial health of the small teams but doesn't even blink charging them $26,000 for each car set of the new EFI set up. And that doesn't include the special manifold!

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Re: "E" Gas Coupe Build
« Reply #80 on: February 29, 2012, 08:30:28 PM »
   Rex,
   How long before they mandate the control program to run the system and adjust the setup of the cars that are too fast? Then they will fine them for "Illegal software" after the race. Trust me, it's coming. NASCAR and NHRA have the same playbook. Thank you SCTA for giving the competitors some credit for keeping this sport affordable for the little guy.
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Re: "E" Gas Coupe Build
« Reply #81 on: February 29, 2012, 09:05:02 PM »
   Rex,
   How long before they mandate the control program to run the system and adjust the setup of the cars that are too fast? Then they will fine them for "Illegal software" after the race. Trust me, it's coming. NASCAR and NHRA have the same playbook. Thank you SCTA for giving the competitors some credit for keeping this sport affordable for the little guy.
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Re: "E" Gas Coupe Build
« Reply #82 on: March 01, 2012, 09:55:27 AM »
I love the way the commentators are touting how NASCAR has finally caught up with current automotive technology.  What?  Aren't throttle bodies sorta 1980s tech?

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Re: "E" Gas Coupe Build
« Reply #83 on: March 01, 2012, 10:21:22 AM »
I love the way the commentators are touting how NASCAR has finally caught up with current automotive technology.  What?  Aren't throttle bodies sorta 1980s tech?

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Re: "E" Gas Coupe Build
« Reply #84 on: March 01, 2012, 10:35:56 AM »
Back..Give me a break...A throttle body EFI has the nozzle in the body..NECKCAR's nozzle are in the ports like all standard EFI's today not the 80's. The air intake and butterflies could be anywhere. The top way in was much cheaper than redesigning the air intake from the rear or front.

I have more fear for the drivers because of the high fuel pump pressure coming from the back of the car. You can already see a bigger fire problem coming. Guess they all need a impact device to turn off the pump....Wait a second...NECKCAR with no contact, what a novel concept.........JD
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Re: "E" Gas Coupe Build
« Reply #85 on: March 01, 2012, 10:58:39 AM »
JD --

That just shows how little I know about that (and other things).

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Re: "E" Gas Coupe Build
« Reply #86 on: March 01, 2012, 01:27:07 PM »
Jimmy,
As I understand NASCAR, opps! I mean NECKCAR, does have a system that looks at the cars attitude and any high G forces that does turn of the electric fuel pumps. 70 psi gas spraying out of a broken hose just doesn't appeal to me. I also understand that many of the mechanics and engine builders really don't care for EFI. So much potential to do wrong with EFI and I can bet you right now that the high dollars teams have a pack of "bit nerds" working on the ECU to see what they can get away with.

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Re: "E" Gas Coupe Build
« Reply #87 on: March 01, 2012, 02:44:08 PM »
Take a read through any of the motorcycle magazines that report on road racing if you want further information on what the computers can do with EFI and other engine parameters.  They ECU is connected to all sorts of inputs including GPS - so the ECU can vary the tune up according to location on the track (out of a sweeping left turn onto a long straight might be different than out of a hairpin connecting to a short straight and then downhill, etc).

And NASCAR hasn't learned how to do that yet?
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Re: "E" Gas Coupe Build
« Reply #88 on: March 01, 2012, 05:31:47 PM »

And NASCAR hasn't learned how to do that yet?

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Re: "E" Gas Coupe Build
« Reply #89 on: March 02, 2012, 11:11:45 PM »
After searching all over the place for some 18" steel wheels without any luck, Don Ferguson offered up his spare set of 18"  from the ex-Hermoso turbine liner.  Thanks to Don now we have two for the car plus two spares and  one less thing to worry about.  Just makes my mouth water looking at those Ardun heads stacked on the shelf by the rims.   Tony

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