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Offline SPARKY

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Re: The Thud Spud
« Reply #585 on: June 05, 2012, 06:29:10 PM »
Brakes,  Hopefully I can remove the one way residual pressure  valve later---IF the rear wheel cyls are not higher than the master cyl.

I used the AN system because I was advised it is more flexable  I was pleased with the results  I put clear plastic tubing over the brake line inside the frame tubes frt to rear
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Re: The Thud Spud
« Reply #586 on: June 05, 2012, 06:33:30 PM »
Strg box and Wheel inset for scrub radius
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Re: The Thud Spud
« Reply #587 on: June 05, 2012, 06:52:00 PM »
Strg box and Wheel inset for scrub radius

I think I see a little modification to the steering arms.....???????
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Re: The Thud Spud
« Reply #588 on: June 05, 2012, 06:56:22 PM »
Good Eye Dr. G

 I moved the strg arm to the top so that I can put the drag link in the wind shadow of the frt axle and the tie rod ends were smaller that the "FORDS" so I just drilled and tapered to the smaller size and it also let them be inside the wheels for the most part  will mount some inner disks later.
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Re: The Thud Spud
« Reply #589 on: June 06, 2012, 03:49:47 AM »
Yeah, but a while back you were asking, or is that arksing about a step down for the steering.......I note with interest that you have effectively shortened the steering arm, so I gather you are definitely going to use a step down........?

Tie rod behind axle also means it'll fit nicely into a foil.....

smart work on this job Bill.
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Re: The Thud Spud
« Reply #590 on: June 06, 2012, 10:59:16 AM »
waiting on the u-joints to put the 2:1 in the steering shaft
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Re: The Thud Spud
« Reply #591 on: June 08, 2012, 01:22:16 AM »
Ordered 2- u joints got 1---- after contacting the supplier---2nd one is on the way  --so the front half of the strg is in with the 2:1 tacked in place---

am noodleing on the brake and throttle system-- needs to be adjustable maybe will be able to rough in this weekend---started on the chute release levers  thinking that I am going to set it up so that a backward swipe with the right hand gets the primary chute and the shove  both forward for the secondary or back up chute  no differences other that teather length
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Re: The Thud Spud
« Reply #592 on: June 08, 2012, 09:07:10 AM »
Sparky, are you thinking floor mounted or overhead swing?  The liner is floor mounted and we have 3 different lengths from Amo to Steele... The lakester has floor mounted throttle, about 5 adjustments and the clutch and brake are on a slider rail so infinitely adjustable.  Morse cable on throttle of both, Juice clutch and brake.  I may be able to shoot a few pics this afternoon if you want.
Of course if I know you.... you will have it noodled by then...
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Re: The Thud Spud
« Reply #593 on: June 08, 2012, 03:40:30 PM »
The brakes will use differnt length rods like you suggested---the throttle cable bounces back and forth between over head and floor---I think that we will go to a version of the different lengh rods to  a rod that sorta is a repeater.
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Re: The Thud Spud
« Reply #594 on: June 08, 2012, 04:11:43 PM »
The 444 liner has a sliding pedal rack that allows for different drivers. For Ricks daughter there are also bolt on pedal pads. The throttle cable and the brake and clutch master cyls, :along with the hoses have enough flex to allow for all movement. :cheers:
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Re: The Thud Spud
« Reply #595 on: June 08, 2012, 05:52:09 PM »
The Liner first... you can see the long leg rod for throttle, the masters for the clutch and brake are behind the pedals.  The bolt you see in front is when we move to the mid-length leg and there are holes that even move it farther back for the Amo position

Excuse the under construction look of the lakester, that front axle is the new one, built last week.  Still putting that part back together.  
The slider for the clutch and brake with 4 clamps.  Like the Vesco car, infinitely adjustable.  

And the throttle set up.... yep lots of holes for movement.  We have several stretcher length rods for the Morse cables in both cars.
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Re: The Thud Spud
« Reply #596 on: June 09, 2012, 02:44:55 PM »
The Liner first... you can see the long leg rod for throttle, the masters for the clutch and brake are behind the pedals.  The bolt you see in front is when we move to the mid-length leg and there are holes that even move it farther back for the Amo position

Excuse the under construction look of the lakester, that front axle is the new one, built last week.  Still putting that part back together.  
The slider for the clutch and brake with 4 clamps.  Like the Vesco car, infinitely adjustable.  

And the throttle set up.... yep lots of holes for movement.  We have several stretcher length rods for the Morse cables in both cars.

That adjustable slider clamp arrangement in the second photo would worry me. If the clamp boolts loostened jut a little under vibration, you could hit the brake pedal after the 5 and feel it sliding forward....
I'd put a pin in there to limit the slider travel "just in case."

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Re: The Thud Spud
« Reply #597 on: June 09, 2012, 10:50:58 PM »
Neil, never hit the brake so I wouldn't worry about that at all  :-o  Brakes are for the pits and speeds under 50.... Al Teague described using the brakes over 200 like stepping on a ripe plum... when you first step on it you can tell it was there, but then all the sudden it's gone. 
There are 4 individual clamp bolts, any 1 of them will keep the slider in place.  It has never loosened in the 12 years it has been in that configuration, but if it slipped, the clutch would be missed way more than the brake. 
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Re: The Thud Spud
« Reply #598 on: June 10, 2012, 12:46:34 AM »
Stainless;

"It has never loosened in the 12 years it has been in that configuration..."

Maybe the Bonneville salt will corrode it in place  :-)

I'd still put a pin in there.

...as they said aboard the Hindenburg, "We never had that problem before...."

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Re: The Thud Spud
« Reply #599 on: June 11, 2012, 11:30:16 PM »
Geez,  you guys must have confused my pea brain---I have been pondering my brakes and throttle off and on for 3 days---finally I punted and started installing the actuall cables. They proved to be less confusing.  Then I tried the fuel lines and mfuel shutoff---it is failing to comutate with me!!!  lol 
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