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Author Topic: MS LIBERTY a Wild Weasel's belly tank  (Read 612365 times)

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Offline Tman

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Re: Rat-a-Tack AA/GL>aka >> The Texas Tater>>> The Thud Spud
« Reply #270 on: January 11, 2012, 09:33:16 PM »
And chicks dig scars! :-D At least thats how I lived my life :wink:

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Re: Rat-a-Tack AA/GL>aka >> The Texas Tater>>> The Thud Spud
« Reply #271 on: January 11, 2012, 09:37:00 PM »
I hear you on the head & neck thing Sparky, I'm in the same boat. 2" sideways, 1" up, 0" back & helmet in chest. Even if my head fell off, it couldn't get out of there. I'm going to use DJ's set-up, thats the only way I could get in the car & then see out once I get there. I also have swing up steering.
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Re: Rat-a-Tack AA/GL>aka >> The Texas Tater>>> The Thud Spud
« Reply #272 on: January 11, 2012, 10:10:57 PM »
KiWi---you have to be able to get your helment OFF everything but your head or you will BUZZZ your eyballs
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Re: Rat-a-Tack AA/GL>aka >> The Texas Tater>>> The Thud Spud
« Reply #273 on: January 11, 2012, 10:13:59 PM »
KiWi---you have to be able to get your helment OFF everything but your head or you will BUZZZ your eyballs

read John Force's account of his first time with the ISP padding system. No BUZZ for the first time in his career. Yes, written in blood, this revelation came after Eric Medlin died.

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Re: Rat-a-Tack AA/GL>aka >> The Texas Tater>>> The Thud Spud
« Reply #274 on: January 11, 2012, 10:18:00 PM »
I haven't been buzzed in years!!
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Re: Rat-a-Tack AA/GL>aka >> The Texas Tater>>> The Thud Spud
« Reply #275 on: January 11, 2012, 10:42:21 PM »
I hear you on the head & neck thing Sparky, I'm in the same boat. 2" sideways, 1" up, 0" back & helmet in chest. Even if my head fell off, it couldn't get out of there. I'm going to use DJ's set-up, thats the only way I could get in the car & then see out once I get there. I also have swing up steering.
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  Kiwi...DJ's helmet straps don't have a quick release, so helmet has to stay on untill someone can release the straps.

  This restricks movement on exit.

  Wish I had know before buying :roll:

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Re: Rat-a-Tack AA/GL>aka >> The Texas Tater>>> The Thud Spud
« Reply #276 on: January 12, 2012, 06:31:15 AM »
I can do it with the system on. I checked out Steve Walters DJ set up & tied my helmet down to make sure it will work.
I'm going from strapped to standing up in the car in 10 seconds. Thats leg restraints, steering, the works but canopy not done yet.
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Re: Rat-a-Tack AA/GL>aka >> The Texas Tater>>> The Thud Spud
« Reply #277 on: January 12, 2012, 09:02:18 AM »
I hear you on the head & neck thing Sparky, I'm in the same boat. 2" sideways, 1" up, 0" back & helmet in chest. Even if my head fell off, it couldn't get out of there. I'm going to use DJ's set-up, thats the only way I could get in the car & then see out once I get there. I also have swing up steering.
  Sid.

Sparky and Sid, we use the DJ, same position as you, lying down, chin on chest, 1 inch or less front, back and sides.  Yep you touch the sfi roll bar padding and it uncages your eyeballs.  I guess I would be interested in seeing what the ISP padding is and if it is legal for SCTA.  Anything that would let you touch and not translate the vibration would be a huge improvement.


  Kiwi...DJ's helmet straps don't have a quick release, so helmet has to stay on untill someone can release the straps.

  This restricks movement on exit.

  Wish I had know before buying :roll:

         JL222

I guess we haven't had that problem with the DJ, it is the least restrictive and flexible use unit out there.  I guess in the sit up position the straps are shorter, but when your driving position has your chin on you chest the straps are loose enough to not restrict movement after you sit up.  Releasing the chest strap should loosen the restraints.  We didn't get the opportunity to use it "real world" in the liner yet but will be doing a bunch of garage practice before Speedweek.  Yes, that means we haven't had the time to practice exit with it in the liner, but we had absolutely no issues with it in the Bockscar
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Re: Rat-a-Tack AA/GL>aka >> The Texas Tater>>> The Thud Spud
« Reply #278 on: January 12, 2012, 09:04:05 AM »
Sparky,
            No pun intended about speed of build. Your first post was March 2011. That hasn't been very long to me. Go forward, Go fast.

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Re: Rat-a-Tack AA/GL>aka >> The Texas Tater>>> The Thud Spud
« Reply #279 on: January 12, 2012, 10:18:07 AM »
I dont have any problem supporting my head away from the structure long enough to make a run. The liner is so long that I expect minimal ground vibration through the 30" Mickeys but the only way to know for sure will be when we start running.
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Re: Rat-a-Tack AA/GL>aka >> The Texas Tater>>> The Thud Spud
« Reply #280 on: January 12, 2012, 10:56:04 AM »
I believe we experienced engine vibrations on our first runs until I learned to keep from putting my head back.  Not many of us are using rubber-inserted motor mounts.  

My blurred vision was also caused by the view switching from one of the bifocal lenses to the other and back and forth.  I got a pair of monofocal(doc?) lenses deeply tinted for the next year.  Worked great especially in a record return run . . . at least 'til I tried to read the gauges.  (Don't need no stinkin' gauges!)

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Re: Rat-a-Tack AA/GL>aka >> The Texas Tater>>> The Thud Spud
« Reply #281 on: January 12, 2012, 11:29:32 AM »
SB  :cheers:
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Re: Rat-a-Tack AA/GL>aka >> The Texas Tater>>> The Thud Spud
« Reply #282 on: January 12, 2012, 01:36:36 PM »
Can anyone point me in the direction of a supplier for some very aggresive sinter iron
2.5' x 11" DRUM brake SHOESfor a Ford 9"?  I am not having much luck online or inperson here in Phoenix,
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Re: Rat-a-Tack AA/GL>aka >> The Texas Tater>>> The Thud Spud
« Reply #283 on: January 12, 2012, 03:16:43 PM »
We made a slight change to the back of the car Tuedsay to allow for a little more up slope on the tail behind the rear axle for getting on and off the trailer to do so we had to cut several tacks  just spent 2.5 hrs getting everyting with inside of an 1/8".  Ran another string line through the center of the car as we cant drop plum lines from the overhead center line.  Going to eat lunch and go see if I can tack it with out drawing it out of plumb.   :-P
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Re: Rat-a-Tack AA/GL>aka >> The Texas Tater>>> The Thud Spud
« Reply #284 on: January 12, 2012, 08:17:21 PM »
Why sintered iron Sparky? We ran a Corvette special during the sixties with sintered iron linings in the drums and as I remember they were all over the place until they got well warmed up. This isn't a characteristic that I'd like in a fast Bonneville car. I'm sure that one of the performance brake lining companies could come up with something that would cause less excitement on shutdown and be at least as effective. The sintered iron also has a real appetite for cast iron drums. You'll be replacing the drums regularly if the system works out.

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