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Re: MS LIBERTY a Wild Weasel's belly tank
« Reply #2355 on: February 08, 2017, 09:09:05 AM »
We now up to speed enough that we sorta know what we don't know---

 but we have a adjustable clutch plan, that we will not completely disengage to keep the Liberty happy, with a beginning game plan on how we can determine how much to release and should be able to measure it and adjust as need be, for repeatable shifts- to be able to consistently shift this thing---it will be, so I am told--sorta like a AA Fuel Clutch cannon that we should be able to repeat  for each gear change except the first one which will be clutchless --the gear vendor OD unit.
Miss LIBERTY,  changing TKI  to noise, dust and RUST!!!

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Re: MS LIBERTY a Wild Weasel's belly tank
« Reply #2356 on: February 08, 2017, 09:59:53 AM »
Whats the repeatability & life expectancy of this system Sparky?
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Re: MS LIBERTY a Wild Weasel's belly tank
« Reply #2357 on: February 17, 2017, 08:53:49 AM »


Sid Only time and a few passes on a good track will tell for sure.

 I think repeatability should be great---we have the ability to go back to the same ground zero by adjustments within the clutch cover, as well as clutch stroke, and rate of return to full clamp.

We should be able to data log, eng. speed, input shaft speed, and frt and rear wheel speeds. this should tell us what is going on.

There has been very good back and forth with all three suppliers that I think we have a system we can adjust as we learn just what Ms Liberty likes---we are changing eng tune to go with this change from 3 gears to 6.

Only time and a few passes on a good track will tell how it holds up.

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Re: MS LIBERTY a Wild Weasel's belly tank
« Reply #2358 on: February 17, 2017, 10:27:17 AM »
Sound's promising Sparky, hope it all works out for you. I'm sure you'll have some coin rolled up in it.
Early hours of this morning I finished building the two stick shifter for the liner so I can shift the trans & the pinion overdrives together or separately depending on how much bite there is.
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Re: MS LIBERTY a Wild Weasel's belly tank
« Reply #2359 on: February 17, 2017, 11:14:15 AM »
Sid

Jeez I wished you lived closer---sounds like you had a productive AM

Actually my son is buying in  :-D ---he's still has a Day Job-- he actually travels from time to time in your part of the world now.
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Re: MS LIBERTY a Wild Weasel's belly tank
« Reply #2360 on: February 17, 2017, 02:12:56 PM »
 I'm in final tear-down now & finalizing components as they come out. I changed the overdrives to solenoids from a manual valve setup so had to redo the shifter. The chassis is empty except the engine & trans now but I still have to turn it over & finish the front & rear tunnels before I can throw some paint at it.
Visitors are welcome at The Kiwi Skunk Works. :-)
  When do you expect to be running with the new combo?
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Re: MS LIBERTY a Wild Weasel's belly tank
« Reply #2361 on: February 17, 2017, 02:23:31 PM »
This season! the test and tune if they have one!!
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Re: MS LIBERTY a Wild Weasel's belly tank
« Reply #2362 on: February 17, 2017, 06:20:48 PM »
Sparky,
Go to Sid's if you get a chance. A hotrodder's hot rod shop.
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Re: MS LIBERTY a Wild Weasel's belly tank
« Reply #2363 on: February 17, 2017, 10:53:10 PM »
I can just imagine!!
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Re: MS LIBERTY a Wild Weasel's belly tank
« Reply #2364 on: February 17, 2017, 11:01:52 PM »
Sparky,
Go to Sid's if you get a chance. A hotrodder's hot rod shop.
Terry
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Re: MS LIBERTY a Wild Weasel's belly tank
« Reply #2365 on: February 18, 2017, 08:53:44 AM »
Good thing I have SFI 20 pants!

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Re: MS LIBERTY a Wild Weasel's belly tank
« Reply #2366 on: February 20, 2017, 07:58:33 AM »
Hey I thought you sold your fire suit  :evil:
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Re: MS LIBERTY a Wild Weasel's belly tank
« Reply #2367 on: March 05, 2017, 10:07:26 AM »
next research project Drive train data logging

Best that I can determine I need 6 RPM channels

1 engine
2 trans input
3 trans output/ GV input
4 GV out/driveshaft
5 frt tire
6 rear tire

With a system similar to this I should be able to determine just where the slip is, how much and for how long

1/2 monitors eng clutch slip
3/4 monitors GV clutch slip
5/6 monitors rear tire slip
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Miss LIBERTY,  changing TKI  to noise, dust and RUST!!!

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Re: MS LIBERTY a Wild Weasel's belly tank
« Reply #2368 on: March 05, 2017, 06:17:33 PM »
rear tire = K * driveshaft       Save a sensor and other complications.

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Re: MS LIBERTY a Wild Weasel's belly tank
« Reply #2369 on: March 06, 2017, 04:25:42 AM »
Glad to see this is still taking up most of your time Bill, I can only assume based on your wife's assertion a few years back that you still don't have a mistress. :wink:
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