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Author Topic: MS LIBERTY a Wild Weasel's belly tank  (Read 647579 times)

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Offline SPARKY

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Re: Wild Weasel a TRUE belly tanker
« Reply #1425 on: October 08, 2013, 06:07:53 PM »
no  Frankie,  we just got a ratchet strap and pulled the sub frame back straight---I will reinforce and get gas struts that are not so strong.

Good omen  I actually thought about where are the transport tires :-o not there YET but much closer
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Re: Wild Weasel a TRUE belly tanker
« Reply #1426 on: October 09, 2013, 08:59:17 PM »
Awesome Sparky! Looks like things are coming along nicely.  :cheers: The umpteen million little things that actually make everything work are the things nobody thinks about until it's time to do them. I can't begin to think about all the wiring and plumbing I have to do on my car!
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Re: Wild Weasel a TRUE belly tanker
« Reply #1427 on: October 10, 2013, 05:30:26 PM »
was able to get in 4 hours today  lots of little things but the biggie---i spent 2 plus hrs on the CANOPY--  It will now latch again---should be able to get started on the windows and fitment tomorrow!!
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Re: Wild Weasel a TRUE belly tanker
« Reply #1428 on: October 11, 2013, 04:00:35 PM »
need to put windows in
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Re: Wild Weasel a TRUE belly tanker
« Reply #1429 on: October 11, 2013, 05:17:51 PM »
Looking good. Gonna be ready for El Mirage?

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« Reply #1430 on: October 11, 2013, 09:20:39 PM »
Could be but I am shooting for Nov.

Had a good day in the shop---long very trying process of continually adjusting and grinding to make sure the new latches work when closed the side panels are in and all is popped into place all that remains is to cut the windows and drill lots of holes for the 1/8" pops that will hold them in place.

# 8  cut the "starter-El Mirage" 120 deg windows, a nice side benefit is that the person outside can look
#9  down through them and confirm the latches are open/closed
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Re: Wild Weasel a TRUE belly tanker
« Reply #1431 on: October 12, 2013, 05:11:16 PM »
Bill;

Pop riveting plastic windows into their frames might cause problems with cracking around the drilled holes. Plastic-- Plexiglas or Lexan-- expands much more than aluminum so it causes stress in the holes drilled in the plastic for the rivets. A better way, if you have the time to do it, is to use screws in holes in the plastic that are about 1/16" oversize to allow for the differential thermal expansion.
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Re: Wild Weasel a TRUE belly tanker
« Reply #1432 on: October 13, 2013, 08:38:58 PM »
Neil, I know you are correct---but I am taking the easy way out for now to see if I like this "Robbie the Robot" look  :-D  If I do I would like to make a lot of refinements.

Andy helped for 5 hours today helping to "TRIM" the windows to fit and I spent 3 hours getting it in after he had to leave on vacation for 2 weeks---thanks Andy

Well we have one side in and one to go

Under the heading of "2 steps back"  I am going to have to come up with a different arrangement with the lift struts. With the old front cage hoop the sub-frame pushed up against it and kept the struts from pushing the whole canopy back 1/2" inch or so.  Now we are going to have to put in some stops or change the pivot points.

Ohh by the way Dr. G you were most entertaining on the "BB---Boom Box" this afternoon while I was "pop riveting away"

PS  I am not going to fuel Miss LIBERTY until Andy gets back in 2 weeks.  We will know lots more about this stupid BHO lake shut down by then.
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Re: Wild Weasel a TRUE belly tanker
« Reply #1433 on: October 13, 2013, 09:44:04 PM »
 I hadn't seen the new canopy idea for some reason....wow, that evokes a whole heap of different things, 1st world war control towers on ships, the first airliners and also that Eagle on the Muppets.....



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« Reply #1434 on: October 13, 2013, 09:49:51 PM »
hadn't seen the eagle before---lol

When I think of "THE EAGLE"  I think of   Eddie the eagle---the ski jumper from GB
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« Reply #1435 on: October 13, 2013, 10:55:01 PM »
.....especially this angle..

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Re: Wild Weasel a TRUE belly tanker
« Reply #1436 on: October 13, 2013, 10:58:12 PM »
Personally I think that angle looks absolutely sinister....

Can't wait to see it in person.  :cheers:
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« Reply #1437 on: October 13, 2013, 11:18:53 PM »
Personally I think that angle looks absolutely sinister....

Can't wait to see it in person.  :cheers:

Yeah, it does. It couldnt be a more fitting rival for Seth's car :cheers:
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Re: Wild Weasel a TRUE belly tanker
« Reply #1438 on: October 13, 2013, 11:33:36 PM »
Well it's definitely different Sparky. Reminiscent of the Curtis Flying Boat of the 1920's.
What was the reason behind the design?
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Re: Wild Weasel a TRUE belly tanker
« Reply #1439 on: October 14, 2013, 12:19:01 AM »
Well it's definitely different Sparky. Reminiscent of the Curtis Flying Boat of the 1920's.
What was the reason behind the design?
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I'll take some of the heat on this.  Ruth and I were on our way home from Fl via CA and staying at Sparky's a year ago (2012) when at the time there was some hope to get to the salt that year.  The problem was how to come up with a canopy in short order that might work, at least for a while.  I kind of designed it with the thought the front is teardrop shaped, rounded, and the idea was to send the air down the sides of the car from the front of it.  I did a rough hammer form of the top and we put it on and I said don't be affraid to use some bondo  8-).

As PP says 'it isn't how you go into the air it is .....".

The pictures make it look much higher than it is.  Here is a picture that better showes its height....




.. If I remember right it is about 5-6 inches.  Of course they have done a lot more with it since I was involved.

I think the plan is to run with it and make a decision after the car runs and also when there is more time to make something more traditional but still feel it isn't a bad design from the aero perspective.  With the front not being laid back the vision is not distorted like on some so you have a good view down track.

I feel it is hard sometimes to realize just how much time goes into these cars.  You can see a complete car with a slick body/canopy and just kind of think it happens somehow.  Summit Racing doesn't carry this stuff  :-),

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