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Offline Jonny Hotnuts

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SFI 38.1
« on: March 07, 2011, 08:40:30 PM »
I am writing this with the stomach flu (good times) and am too lazy to go searching for a rule book.....


It looks like most of the SFI 38.1 devices are designed for the upright seating position. Are there any recommendations for a Hans type device that allows for multiple seating angles????


Also.....


(be nice I am sick)

With the approved device is it still necessary to use the lateral head restraint bars?
Its already hard as poop to get out of my side door car already. I have concerns about getting out of the vehicle using the Hans.

~JH


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Re: SFI 38.1
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2011, 08:46:32 PM »
Indy cars and formula one cars are significantly laid back. There are also other manufacturers besides Hans. Go to the Snell site to see the list of approved devices.

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Re: SFI 38.1
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2011, 08:49:39 PM »
JNuts, you're supposed to have your rulebook in the can.... how hard can it be to find it...  :-D
Same question all of us lay down folks have been asking since inception.
DJ safety is the way we went and yes you still must meet the lateral rules.


Sorry I forgot, if a large grey mass starts coming out shove it back in.... you've shit your brains out  :roll:
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Re: SFI 38.1
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2011, 08:50:31 PM »
JHN,

Hope you feel better,,, but yes there are several other manufacturers,,,

Try Safety Solutions,,, they have at least 5 models that meet SFI 38.1  
Several will work in a reclined position.

Good Luck

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Re: SFI 38.1
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2011, 10:32:25 PM »
Thanks for the suggestions guys....

I looked at the DJ and their unit was "sfi pending" but in the description it mentioned SCTA legal....at least they had the nuts to clarify!

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Sorry I forgot, if a large grey mass starts coming out shove it back in.... you've Subaru your brains out

Well said.

And on that note yesterday I puked so hard I tore the toilet seat off, and thats no joke. Mind you we are not talking some cheap lid, I fully destroyed a Bemis Ultra Supreme the Cadillac of sh1tterlids.

Just thought I'd share.

~JH




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Re: SFI 38.1
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2011, 11:40:17 PM »
So I take it the Bemis doesn't meet certification, either.  :roll:

Get well, chief!
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Re: SFI 38.1
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2011, 11:46:15 PM »
JH,

you will survive, I had it last weekend, I wished that I had drunk enough to feel that bad.

Check the SFI website for approved models and manufacturers.

Word is that DJ should be done soon, keeping fingers crossed.

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Re: SFI 38.1
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2011, 08:22:17 AM »
Quote from: Jonny Hotnuts on March 07, 2011, 10:32:25 PM
I fully destroyed a Bemis Ultra Supreme the Cadillac of sh1tterlids.

Just thought I'd share.

~JH

Can't stop laughing...I think we all share your pain, or have in the past.
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Re: SFI 38.1
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2011, 09:06:48 AM »
Sorry! It's SFI that does the certification. Their website is http://www.sfifoundation.com/ and look under Manufacturers.

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Re: SFI 38.1
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2011, 09:27:00 PM »
According to the DefNder website and pictures, it appears to be adjustable from 20 to 40 degrees. It is included in DJ safety and looks to be a fairly compact unit especially if you do not have much room behind you helmet..........So far I like it's looks.........................JD
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Re: SFI 38.1
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2011, 11:57:05 PM »
JHN,
I, like you and many others, was concerned about getting into some of the very small and tight cars with a Hans device until I saw the driver of the Costella/Cunha car, J, gas and fuel streamliner, T. Cunha, fit into what has to be one of Jack's smaller cars with a Hans device on. It can be done.

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Re: SFI 38.1
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2011, 12:39:45 AM »
Rex (or anyone) do you know what brand was the device the Tim Cunha used?
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Re: SFI 38.1
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2011, 12:51:58 AM »
Quote from: Rex Schimmer on March 08, 2011, 11:57:05 PM
JHN,
I, like you and many others, was concerned about getting into some of the very small and tight cars with a Hans device until I saw the driver of the Costella/Cunha car, J, gas and fuel streamliner, T. Cunha, fit into what has to be one of Jack's smaller cars with a Hans device on. It can be done.

Rex

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Re: SFI 38.1
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2011, 06:54:12 AM »
Quote from: Jonny Hotnuts on March 07, 2011, 08:40:30 PM
I am writing this with the stomach flu (good times) and am too lazy to go searching for a rule book.....


It looks like most of the SFI 38.1 devices are designed for the upright seating position. Are there any recommendations for a Hans type device that allows for multiple seating angles????


Also.....


(be nice I am sick)

With the approved device is it still necessary to use the lateral head restraint bars?
Its already hard as poop to get out of my side door car already. I have concerns about getting out of the vehicle using the Hans.

~JH




Take good care of that illness,jh....

JD Safety is offering a unit that their windburn say will cover anywhere from 20 to 40 degree seat angle. Priced in the mid $500s..... it is pretty much what my choice is narrowed down to....

There is a unit sold by a company called ISAAC that connects to the shoulder straps and is claimed to work effectively with ANY seat angle ..... it is NOT SFI approved though - due to the fact that is does NOT release with the release of your safety harness- it requires extra pins to be pulled. I sent an email to Lee Kennedy and Kiwi Steve asking as to the SCTA-BNIs interest or inclination to allowing its use. I have, to date, received no answer so I assume that it will NOT be acceptable. But see links below anyway. There is an interesting video clip embedded in the first link showing side by side testing with a HANS device. It appears that the shoulder belts slip off the HANS device during the crash simulation:

http://www.isaacdirect.com/
http://www.isaacdirect.com/SFI.html
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Re: SFI 38.1
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2011, 10:49:10 AM »
That is why I prefer the Safety Solutions Hybrid over the Hans...It also secures to the seat belts.. not just retained only by the shoulder belts.

just my 2 cents...

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