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« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2011, 01:37:34 PM »

At first glance this news SUCKS !!!  Maxton and the ECTA  is a home track and home club to many of us. The reality that this may be our Farewell season at Maxton is hard to imagine for many of us.. But this is not a farewell to the ECTA, this is hunker down and work together time ... time to help the ECTA expand and reinvent LSR east of the Mississippi.

I am sure the road ahead will not be easy, but most things worth doing are not easy.

Let's all DO OUR BEST  to make our 2011 Season the Best, Fastest and Safest Season EVER....  if in fact 2011 is our last at Maxton,, lets leave with our spirits high, let's have record attendance and record crowds...

Who knows, we may not get 5 dates in 2012,,, but if we do right in 2011, we well may get 1 or 2 dates  each year, or even a spring SPEED WEEK !!!

Just being positive... !!!!

See you all in April.

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« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2011, 02:00:55 PM »

Wow I'm bummed.  I just love that place.
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« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2011, 02:08:01 PM »

Just for the sake of telling the story correctly - as far as I know it, at least -- but it's Gryphon (company) that's imposing the restrictions, not the airport authority or anyone like the city or county.  I'm guessing here -- Gryphon owns the north end of the parcel of property on which we've run and now they won't let us use it - although the 2011 season has been arranged, with some restrictions.  Gryphon evidently owns the property in the center of the pits -- so we can't pit there this year.  Joe Timney mentioned that we'll be setting up somewhere along the return road.  And so on - the cities of Maxton and Laurinburg and the county and the various businesses - like restaurants and motels -- are going to try to help get us permission to race, too.

So - don't vent your anger, folks, at anyone but the causing firm, and don't vent at them/him, the owner -- 'cause the only thing that's likely to happen from him getting a good chewing-out on line is for him to revoke all and any permission to use his land this year, too.
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« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2011, 02:17:59 PM »

SSS, well put,, and I agree,,, Record Turn Out  will provide big boost's for the local Hotels, Stores, Stations, Restaurants etc... The only hope is they can exert some pressure..  There sure ain't alot going on down there, so our economic input 5 times a year has to be a PLUS...

All we can do is take the High Road and Support the ECTA right now.

Charles

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« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2011, 03:34:22 PM »

Signs of the times I guess. I too will be there as long as we are allowed usage.
   I have looked around here in central and northern Florida for unused Airstrips and found a couple of possible venues.

   NAS Cecil Field in Jacksonville Fla. was closed in 99. It is now owned by the city of Jacksonville and has 2.3mile runway (according to the Google Earth ruler). Wikipedia shows 3 runways all at 2.4miles and one at 3.8 miles.

Jacksonville
http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=30.218611,-81.876667&z=14&t=H&marker0=30.218611,-81.876667,Naval Air Station Cecil Field


   MacDill AFB in Tampa was shutdown for awhile and then re-activated. I do know that MacDill has Airshows and other events throughout the year, so it may be something to look into. Their runway is 2 miles long. Shutdown after the 2 is up would be a bitch... runway ends at Tampa Bay.

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http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=27.849444,-82.521111&z=14&t=H&marker0=27.849444,-82.521111,MacDill Air Force Base

And..  A little info on the Gryphon Group.    really don't need to Plymouth them off!

http://www.gryphonsecurity.com/index_2.htm

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« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2011, 04:03:31 PM »

Signs of the times I guess. I too will be there as long as we are allowed usage.
   I have looked around here in central and northern Florida for unused Airstrips and found a couple of possible venues.

   NAS Cecil Field in Jacksonville Fla. was closed in 99. It is now owned by the city of Jacksonville and has 2.3mile runway (according to the Google Earth ruler). Wikipedia shows 3 runways all at 2.4miles and one at 3.8 miles.

Jacksonville
http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=30.218611,-81.876667&z=14&t=H&marker0=30.218611,-81.876667,Naval Air Station Cecil Field


   MacDill AFB in Tampa was shutdown for awhile and then re-activated. I do know that MacDill has Airshows and other events throughout the year, so it may be something to look into. Their runway is 2 miles long. Shutdown after the 2 is up would be a bitch... runway ends at Tampa Bay.

MacDill
http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=27.849444,-82.521111&z=14&t=H&marker0=27.849444,-82.521111,MacDill Air Force Base

And..  A little info on the Gryphon Group.    really don't need to Plymouth them off!

http://www.gryphonsecurity.com/index_2.htm



Good info.
3.8 miles  cheers  Im in!
I think I could make it accross the bay to my house from Macdill if I had enough speed  evil

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« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2011, 04:05:01 PM »

Thanks to all of you for your support .... Like you,  we dig this place.... it's been our home for 17 yrs.... but we always knew this was a possiblility.. just part of the bigger picture...  The airport authority has to make a living... and they have always said they would try to lease it long term...

The answer is it costs 1/4 million a year for a long term lease... and Gryphon has already signed that... so we're done, Unless of course our hero's there at Gryphon decide it's in their interest to continue working with us.  Our hope is that by doing good work and taking care of the facility we can move forward and insure that the 2011 season comes off without a hitch...   Sometime in the middle of this year or later we'll look at maybe a reduced schedule or some other kind of arrangement with them....  doesn't look good...

What does look good is that we're going to find something better....  that simple... there's a village out there looking for it's idiots and we frankly have the ability to fill that bill.......

Life is GOOD....

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« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2011, 05:16:01 PM »

Sean Roberts has posted a new site for comments about the possible Wilmington LSR event. I have made it known to him that I would like to see it follow the ECTA format vs. the TX mile format. Let him know at www dot wilmingtonmile dot com. Loring, Maxton and Wilmington series!?!?  shocked
Besides it's only a 26 mile drive for me!  grin
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« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2011, 05:42:28 PM »

anyone thought about here?
i know they have used it once in a while for some import road racing??



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grissom_Joint_Air_Reserve_Base

3.8 miles long
not sure if still doing to events anymore but always worth a try ??
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« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2011, 05:46:43 PM »

Grissom appears active military reserves ... that won't work ...
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« Reply #25 on: January 31, 2011, 05:57:38 PM »

Grissom appears active military reserves ... that won't work ...
sorry
i knew they would do events there in the racing industry once in a while
its a reserve air force
it doesnt get a lot of air traffic that i see (in-laws live in the housing on the property)
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« Reply #26 on: January 31, 2011, 06:10:49 PM »

Jacksonville Fl.  NAS Cecil Field  has 4 runways.

2 North/South  one is 12,500 ft long the other is 8,000
and 2 East/West  both 8,000 ft long.

Last used in 1999, they should be in decent shape,,,  the 12,500 ft long runway would sure provide all the length we need and it's parallel 8,000 ft runway would sure make a nice pit area Huh

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« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2011, 07:19:26 PM »

Signs of the times I guess. I too will be there as long as we are allowed usage.
   I have looked around here in central and northern Florida for unused Airstrips and found a couple of possible venues.

   NAS Cecil Field in Jacksonville Fla. was closed in 99. It is now owned by the city of Jacksonville and has 2.3mile runway (according to the Google Earth ruler). Wikipedia shows 3 runways all at 2.4miles and one at 3.8 miles.

Jacksonville
http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=30.218611,-81.876667&z=14&t=H&marker0=30.218611,-81.876667,Naval Air Station Cecil Field


   MacDill AFB in Tampa was shutdown for awhile and then re-activated. I do know that MacDill has Airshows and other events throughout the year, so it may be something to look into. Their runway is 2 miles long. Shutdown after the 2 is up would be a bitch... runway ends at Tampa Bay.

MacDill
http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=27.849444,-82.521111&z=14&t=H&marker0=27.849444,-82.521111,MacDill Air Force Base

And..  A little info on the Gryphon Group.    really don't need to Plymouth them off!

http://www.gryphonsecurity.com/index_2.htm


As a retired Naval Aviation gut, I spent a lot of time at Cecil Field.  The surface was smooth and in great shape.  Florida in the winter sounds great to me.  Longer trip, bit you go where the racing is.
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« Reply #28 on: February 01, 2011, 11:09:15 AM »

Thanks to all of you for your support .... Like you,  we dig this place.... it's been our home for 17 yrs.... but we always knew this was a possiblility.. just part of the bigger picture...  The airport authority has to make a living... and they have always said they would try to lease it long term...

The answer is it costs 1/4 million a year for a long term lease... and Gryphon has already signed that... so we're done, Unless of course our hero's there at Gryphon decide it's in their interest to continue working with us.  Our hope is that by doing good work and taking care of the facility we can move forward and insure that the 2011 season comes off without a hitch...   Sometime in the middle of this year or later we'll look at maybe a reduced schedule or some other kind of arrangement with them....  doesn't look good...

What does look good is that we're going to find something better....  that simple... there's a village out there looking for it's idiots and we frankly have the ability to fill that bill.......

Life is GOOD....

Keith




should we as a group start lobbying the Gryphon management on our behalf? telling them what a good neighbor they would be for letting us continue? are they a member of the local chamber of commerce? they should have an opinion about us not being there after 2011, that $250,000 isn't going to them.

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« Reply #29 on: February 01, 2011, 11:21:46 AM »

eocode=&q=Golden+Gate,+FL&aq=&sll=37.0625,-95.6770 68&sspn=30.599615,85.869141&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Gold en+Gate,+Collier,+Florida&ll=26.167995,-81.500187& spn=0.033818,0.083857&t=h&z=14

Naples, Florida:  Harley Naples Evaluation Center property. It's been closed for over a year and the staff laid off.  It looks like a 2 mile straight, huh?  In a flood plane, so no houses nearby.  Perhaps they would consider some sort of arrangement?

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eocode=&q=Golden+Gate,+FL&aq=&sll=37.0625,-95.6770 68&sspn=30.599615,85.869141&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Gold en+Gate,+Collier,+Florida&ll=26.167995,-81.500187& spn=0.033818,0.083857&t=h&z=14

Crap.  Anyway, it can be seen on the county assessor's aerial photos.
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