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Re: Spirit of South Dakota Lakester
« Reply #435 on: March 28, 2013, 03:00:39 PM »
Well, thanks to Skip,Steve and Rex I have the parts and knowledge to start on my ice water tank. Picked up parts for the spray bar, my Rule pump, Intercooler and Rad. Tommorw get the sheet aluminum and will take lots of shots for all to see.

I am planning on a shoe box style lid held down with spring retainers like these
https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productdetails.asp?RecID=756

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https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productdetails.asp?RecID=770

Any ideas on hole sizes in my spraybar (PVC tube)?

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Re: Spirit of South Dakota Lakester
« Reply #436 on: March 28, 2013, 08:07:01 PM »
T-Man;

It probably isn't important in your application, but the rubber latches do not rattle.
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Re: Spirit of South Dakota Lakester
« Reply #437 on: March 28, 2013, 08:31:06 PM »
Metal latches are fire proof.
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Re: Spirit of South Dakota Lakester
« Reply #438 on: March 28, 2013, 08:59:33 PM »
Metal latches are fire proof.

That was my thought as well Glen, plus the spring ones will provide some venting from burst should I pop the radiator. The lid will be padded from the lower box to keep it from rattling.

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Re: Spirit of South Dakota Lakester
« Reply #439 on: March 28, 2013, 09:01:57 PM »
Metal latches are fire proof.

Good point, Glen....but if the rubber latches burn off, the tank dumps water into the cockpit. I wouldn't be too worried about that. :-)

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Re: Spirit of South Dakota Lakester
« Reply #440 on: March 28, 2013, 09:09:43 PM »
Yeah, but a water soaked fire suit is a steam bath you don't want. Thay can as do absorb water.
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Re: Spirit of South Dakota Lakester
« Reply #441 on: March 28, 2013, 09:57:08 PM »
All good points! But, this tank is 4 feet behind me, with the engine and the turbo between us. The tranny is below it and the fuel behind.

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Re: Spirit of South Dakota Lakester
« Reply #442 on: March 28, 2013, 10:16:41 PM »
Not to mention the sealed firewall  :cheers:
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Re: Spirit of South Dakota Lakester
« Reply #443 on: March 28, 2013, 10:20:25 PM »
Fire has no path, it flames everywhere, small holes become blow torches, Trent you remember the pictures I sent, lessons learned. We all fear fire as at speed it's hard to manage until you get stopped and get assistance.
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Re: Spirit of South Dakota Lakester
« Reply #444 on: March 29, 2013, 01:40:03 AM »
Fire has no path, it flames everywhere, small holes become blow torches, Trent you remember the pictures I sent, lessons learned. We all fear fire as at speed it's hard to manage until you get stopped and get assistance.
Glen, pardon the reference but yes, I do remember those pictures! They are seared into my brain. Scary stuff. That is why the fuel and the rad/intercooler have an inline 6 between me and them!

Thanks for all the input so far guys! :cheers:

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Re: Spirit of South Dakota Lakester
« Reply #445 on: March 29, 2013, 11:49:17 AM »
Yeah, but a water soaked fire suit is a steam bath you don't want. Thay can as do absorb water.

You're right, Glen-- I forgot about that.

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Re: Spirit of South Dakota Lakester
« Reply #446 on: March 29, 2013, 06:41:34 PM »
Well, thanks to Skip,Steve and Rex I have the parts and knowledge to start on my ice water tank. Picked up parts for the spray bar, my Rule pump, Intercooler and Rad. Tommorw get the sheet aluminum and will take lots of shots for all to see.

Any ideas on hole sizes in my spraybar (PVC tube)?

Trent, I have a question:

I built a rad in a tank, but submerged the whole radiator, instead of using a pump and spray bar. The heat absorption is awesome!

What is the advantage of the pump and spray bar in this setup?
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925

You can't make a race horse out of a pig. But if you work hard enough at it you can make a mighty fast pig. - Bob Akin

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Re: Spirit of South Dakota Lakester
« Reply #447 on: March 29, 2013, 08:13:56 PM »
Well, thanks to Skip,Steve and Rex I have the parts and knowledge to start on my ice water tank. Picked up parts for the spray bar, my Rule pump, Intercooler and Rad. Tommorw get the sheet aluminum and will take lots of shots for all to see.

Any ideas on hole sizes in my spraybar (PVC tube)?

Trent, I have a question:

I built a rad in a tank, but submerged the whole radiator, instead of using a pump and spray bar. The heat absorption is awesome!

What is the advantage of the pump and spray bar in this setup?


I will let Skip answer that one over on the HAMB where you asked. But, what I am doing is the same as you but the intercooler is in the same tank so the spraybar will be aimed at the intercooler. My rad is at teh bottom and the intercooler is stacked on it so the top is exposed.

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Re: Spirit of South Dakota Lakester
« Reply #448 on: March 29, 2013, 08:43:28 PM »
So it's the 'radiator' part of your intercooler? Could you put the intercooler beside the radiator, and save yourself the extra effort of the pump and spray bar?
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925

You can't make a race horse out of a pig. But if you work hard enough at it you can make a mighty fast pig. - Bob Akin

http://www.flatcadracing.org/
http://youtu.be/89rVb497_4c

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Re: Spirit of South Dakota Lakester
« Reply #449 on: March 30, 2013, 11:25:54 AM »
So it's the 'radiator' part of your intercooler? Could you put the intercooler beside the radiator, and save yourself the extra effort of the pump and spray bar?

Due to space I am packaging them together. I don't think I would even need the spraybar but it will keep the water moving in the tank as the ice melts. Besides, it was a quick $30 and easy to do. Cheap insurance if we need it in my small tank.