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Goodyear Frontrunners
« on: October 15, 2010, 11:26:57 AM »
Ok, I searched the forum without an direct answer, and I know a lot of people use Frontrunners.
The Question:
The Rulebook says VR or ZR Rated OEM tires for over 150MPH(which I have finally exceeded).  oodyear doesnt' show a speed rating for the Frontrunners (P/N1961).
So, do they qualify under the "special tires for racing as designated by the manufacturer" line in the rulebook for over 200 MPH in section 2F?
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Re: Goodyear Frontrunners
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2010, 12:29:47 PM »
A couple of things to try and help as this question does seem to come up often.

1) The rule book states on page 19 under 2.F In excess of 200 MPH: Special tires for racing as designated by the manufacturer.

This means the maker has said in writing the tire is a racing tire. (see below)

2) There are two types of "frontrunner" tires made by Goodyear that are commonly used in LSR. one is the drag tire the other is the LSR tire made from the drag molds. The LSR tire has a speed & load rating from Goodyear (go to their website), the drag tire does not. However all of the tires are marked "FOR RACING PURPOSES ONLY" making them legal for LSR racing. 

Hope this answers your question. 
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Re: Goodyear Frontrunners
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2010, 01:13:07 PM »
Thank you for the answer, I thought that was the sentence that qualified them.

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Re: Goodyear Frontrunners
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2010, 04:45:10 PM »
Mike --

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Re: Goodyear Frontrunners
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2010, 06:13:43 PM »
for the speed and weight of your vehicle i think you would be safe with the front runners up to 200mph
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Re: Goodyear Frontrunners
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2010, 08:00:29 PM »
For a 4000  car at say 220mph, I am not certain the Drag Frontrunners would be a good choice ??

Anyone have experience with them at this weight or higher and speeds in the 200 to 225 range ?

I had planned on buying the Good Year Land Speeds as they have a higher weight and speed rating .

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Re: Goodyear Frontrunners
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2010, 08:33:30 PM »
For a 4000  car at say 220mph, I am not certain the Drag Frontrunners would be a good choice ??

Anyone have experience with them at this weight or higher and speeds in the 200 to 225 range ?

I had planned on buying the Good Year Land Speeds as they have a higher weight and speed rating .

Charles

  We used the non LSR goodyears for many years on the 222 camaro with several runs in the high 260 mph one at 275
in 1991 and 288 mph with a 279 exit speed in 1994. 222 car weighs aprox 4800 lbs with 35% on front.
 We never had any problems.
  We went to the LSR tires  in 08 they cracked, bought new ones this year, we had no cracking problem with the non LSR tires.

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Re: Goodyear Frontrunners
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2010, 10:40:55 AM »
I've got a 2500Lb curb weight Mini Pickup, Weight isn't the problem, I'm actually thinking I need some ballast in the back end. My real goal is to lower the front end with the smaller diameter of the Frontrunner.
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Re: Goodyear Frontrunners
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2010, 09:42:04 AM »
Mike, what size fronts ?  24 ?

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Re: Goodyear Frontrunners
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2010, 10:46:15 AM »
22's, another 2" drop in the front over the 26" installed.
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Re: Goodyear Frontrunners
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2010, 01:29:12 PM »
Mike,

If you want 22's go with M&H like the roadster has. Much better tire than Goodyears drag frontrunners for a front tire.  IMO.

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Re: Goodyear Frontrunners
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2010, 11:23:10 PM »
22" M & H's on the front- What do you run on the back?

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Re: Goodyear Frontrunners
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2010, 11:43:53 PM »
Mike,

If you want 22's go with M&H like the roadster has. Much better tire than Goodyears drag frontrunners for a front tire.  IMO.

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Re: Goodyear Frontrunners
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2010, 12:41:41 AM »
22" M & H's on the front- What do you run on the back?

In the past I have run 28 inch drag race goodyear frontrunners, but when I bring the car back out I am thinking about changing tire size and may end up with dunlaps or blockleys. Depends on what size motor I end up running, and how much weight I put in the car.

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PS. From what I remember when Kaplan and Carr set the first record over 300 at El Mirage a set of shaved M&H's were on the front of their car.
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Re: Goodyear Frontrunners
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2010, 12:39:20 AM »
I've been using Goodyear front runners (non-LSR) for years with no  problems, my car weighs 4,200lbs (50% front & 50% rear) using 23" in front and 28.1" in rear at a speed of 216mph at Bonneville at World of Speed.  Dave
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