World Finals

[landracing]

Take the fairies off and narrow it down to tires or set-up.

Bill
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I agree with you Bill. Strip her down for a naked run, and get a baseline first. I disagree with Jon's statement-"if it dont feel good at 200 it isnt going to get any better at 280+..." According to Joe himself, last year it was a bit of a handful, until he got over  240+, then he said it "hunkered down, and went straight as an arrow." I suspect there was a transitional range for that bike/body/suspension/tire combo, and once he got up to that speed, the body began to "work." Just a layman's take on things, but I suspect Joe knows what he was talking about! In addition, most racers know that you should only change one thing at a time to KNOW if it made a difference. Joe changed a number of things since last year, and any one, or combination of them could be affecting his handling. Best of luck to you Joe! We're pulling for you back here in SD!
To Bill: Congrats on your fantastic 272+ runs!!
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Rvilhauer,

Please explain to me when a violent tank slapper can get better over 200? Joe's statements about a handfull last year and got better at speed is a totally different issue then what he was experiencing now. he has always had some uneasy feeling and been able to drive thru them but this is different.
Joe and i talked alot obout taking body off the bike, and he came to conclusion he can not solve nor learn anything from it.

First off now you have induced a totally different air stream which might cause other problems and get away from root cause.
 Then there is the packaging issues when you take body off, that have to be delt with, there is alot of stuff under the body.

Actually I am really sorry I said anything about what was going on with it. I just wanted to let people know the status on him.

JonAmo

[nrhs sales]

well said Jon and hopefully Joe can figure it out before the meet is over. if not I know he will do it next year!!

[John Noonan]

1974B 1350CC M-BG    Womack - Tudor - Sandin Racing 233.50 235.78 228.97 220.91 222.4

235 naked! Nice job. 

Bill

Wow... I think that's the fastest avg mile naked? Congrats, good luck today.

Also, go Ryan go!!!

It could be, Jason has a run up there, maybe 236 or very high 235.  Anyone know Jason's fastest naked timed mile?

Bill

Jasons fastest timed mile was at the bubs event in 2005 (He was just racing for the money and not a record) and it was 235.596+ however he did GPS 242  

In 2008 we set an AMA record 237.915 during the Bubs event..

Gotta hand it to the guys able to hold on going to fast for so long, our 240 naked record at Elmo was over so quick compared to holding a sustained 230+ for an entire mile  

Then you have the naked King Bill Warner at 255 naked on pavement  

[Seldom Seen Slim]

It's about 9.30 and the vehicles are leaving impound and heading to the start line.  It's early for them to go -- but going they are. 

[Avanti Kid]

I'm not getting any audio, is any one getting it???   

[DahMurf]

I'm not getting any audio, is any one getting it???   

Me either, tech support notified! 

[shanespector]

No Audio here.

[tedgram]

None here.

[Seldom Seen Slim]

Right now -- cars and bikes are heading to the start line for return runs.  Temp is 50F -- and DA is 3821ft.!  It's a good day to be N/A, right?  We're going down to the start with the crowd -- will try to post speeds as they happen.  Probably at least 20 minutes 'til the first run.

[DahMurf]

Joe and i talked alot obout taking body off the bike, and he came to conclusion he can not solve nor learn anything from it.

Actually I am really sorry I said anything about what was going on with it. I just wanted to let people know the status on him.
JonAmo

First let me say thanks for filling us in & please don't be sorry for reporting. We're interested! You know we're all tinkerers & fixers on here so we all just want to help!

I only know little bits & pieces about this project but from the little I know/see the changes from last year to this year were about the body & tires so taking the body completely off doesn't seem too helpful. The body was good last year so it stands to reason that the issue can be with the tweaks made to the aero package or the tire/wheel set up. All I can think to do is try to make an educated guess as to which is your biggest culprit & to try to adjust there. You're on the cutting edge of this aero package so unfortunately you can't just bolt on the other set of fairings & go. I know it's hard but we've all been spoiled for a while with bolt on go fast parts. Here's where we're going to see the craftsmanship, research & technology pay off but first it hast to be proven. Keep at it guys! We're here cheering you on & wishing you safety & success! 

[Seldom Seen Slim]

No audio right now 'cause Meridix is down for a while.  It's their fault, not outs.  Soon, soon. . .

[DahMurf]

Audio Tech reports the Meridix server that's hosting us is being cranky & not cooperative. Kurt's going to keep hitting the button until it responds.
Please post if you get audio so we can all try!

Thanks for your patience.

[Seldom Seen Slim]

Bike 7602 is first return run -- and motor quits as he's about to leave.  Back soon. . .

Okay, now he's away.  134.168    135.275   first mile no speedFolks, I'll mention some housekeeping here.  The speeds ae3 measured from the one to the two, two to two and a quarter, two to three, three to four, and four to five, as well as exit (those last miles assuming it's a long course run).

I report what is announced over the CB and local radio -- and often there's no speed given for any of the timed stretches.  When I say no speed -- it's not necessarily that the vehicle didn't make it out.

1531 Ferguson 167 in the quarter on course #1 167.228 in the third mile,   pulled the chute.

Kurt reports audio is back on.  Thanks, Kurt.

[DahMurf]

Audio is back!

[shanespector]

Thankyou..thankyou.. thankyou!!!