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Offline Milwaukee Midget

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Re: Oil boil......
« Reply #5670 on: April 25, 2019, 01:06:34 PM »
Don, I think Doc'll need it as part of the disguise to hide from the revenuers . . .
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Re: Oil boil......
« Reply #5671 on: April 25, 2019, 03:38:11 PM »
So, when the Target 550 guys were choppering out last year they were doing bargain basement deals on everything they didn't want to take home. Among other things I bought a shipload of unleaded fuel, a Johnboy, a hairpiece and also about 20 gallons of full synthetic red line, most of which had done a run and was thus methanol contaminated.
TodayI set up a 5 gal. electric urn and put some water in it then a 2.5gal stainless boiler inside it with 2 gal. of oil in it.
It sat at 65°C for a while and bubbled and farted a bit, I figured the methanol was gone once the temperature rose beyond that point.
Then it started bubbling again (vigorously) at 85 °C and smelling,this took a lot longer..

Anyone with experience care to comment on this?
Am I doing it right? What's going on?

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5672 on: April 25, 2019, 03:42:07 PM »
I should have added "outside".
Have you done it before Syd?
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5673 on: April 25, 2019, 09:03:39 PM »
why don't you centrifuge it and pour off the methanol? 

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5674 on: April 25, 2019, 10:27:19 PM »
If I had a centrifuge that may be an option, I thought fractionation may be a better option though...
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5675 on: April 26, 2019, 12:12:08 AM »
I should have added "outside".
Have you done it before Syd?
No I haven't Goggs, all the contaminated stuff goes into my oil burner tank & makes BTU's in the shop during the winter.
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5676 on: April 28, 2019, 08:07:56 PM »
What sort of burner have you got Syd?, it's something I've been thinking about. Mumford has one that runs on ATF I think and has a turbo on it if I remember correctly
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5677 on: April 29, 2019, 12:00:10 AM »
You know me Mate, everything's home built around here! Mine is a double barrel wood burner & the barrels are about 1/2 the size of a 55 or 44 in your lingo. I converted it over to oil with a drip line inside a 1" pipe that's connected to a blower. The burn chamber is just a small 5" stainless bowl at the bottom that I can clean out every cuppla days. Oil supply is gravity fed through a plumbing gate valve for control. The blower is a 12v heater blower & speed switch out of my junk pile that runs off a cheap fine-china 6-amp battery charger. I start it with a rolled up piece of paper shot with WD-40.
The Dodge thing thinks it's a jet engine if ya don't keep tabs on it :evil: but normally there's no visible smoke out the chimney but it sure can warm up the shop when it's -1000 deg's outside.
I started out with a 55g drum outside for a tank & graduated to a 150 gal semi fuel tank & I pour everything in there plus I have a second 10 gal tank inside the shop that is T'd into the 1/4" drip line that gets cooking oil from a local restaurant. Once it gets cruisin I can dial in the free veggie oil & shut down the big tank.
I call it the Hilborn because I have to keep messing with it to find the sweet spot.
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5678 on: April 29, 2019, 11:21:14 AM »
Get some Kinsler pills for it – fine-fine tune it.

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5679 on: April 29, 2019, 02:33:20 PM »
A pill for every Ill Jim?

They don't call them Ford pills for nothin'
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5680 on: September 20, 2019, 05:31:10 PM »
OK Funsters, I'm plodding along with this. We had our first day in the 20's yesterday ( yes Celsius it's what everyone uses except you guys) and that said "paint"......
She's been looking a little ragged since the engine swap what with some wholesale changes to the engine mounts and a whole lot of other stuff. When we did the initial swap we were in such a hurry that we just cut stuff off as neatly as practicable in a shop where the prop doesn't like sparks going anywhere. So Lee my erstwhile sidekick and funnyman and I spent a day directing streams of grinder sparks into each other's faces and got rid of all the jagged and nasty stuff in the engine bay. Until yesterday it has been too cold to contemplate paint as the alkyd resin just skins and then takes about ten years to dry properly if applied when it is too cold.

We took off the front and rear radius rods liberating a few cups of red dust from the mounts and cleaned those up. Removed the brake lines and some extinguisher lines and scuffed up what remained of the precious yellow paint on the aft part of the frame.

The primer went on at lunch time and after we had a beer and Lee left I looked at the temp, it was still 23 degrees, "
"stuff this" I thought and shot the yellow. I went out this morning and gave it a look over and it's well, it's yellow....

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In other news if anyone wants a fuel tank don't ask me, I have had a long running battle with my "intelligent"welder trying to weld stainless, to coin a phrase I.H.G.M.F how to run it properly. Yesterday we pulled the wire out and ran it in my little 200A "dumb" welder with supa-argon and it seemed to be a whole lot happier. Despite Lee's best effort to keep me on track and to dampen the impulses it is nowhere near done, has more than it's fair share of lumps and bumps and some higher power might possibly have an idea whether it will seal.....
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5681 on: September 20, 2019, 07:34:51 PM »
I don't know what that was all about ? but I could see why that guy at the beach was lonely.  You're still inspiring me, probably after maybe 10 years, only music on my laptop . . .

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5682 on: September 20, 2019, 07:48:59 PM »
C'mon Stan. You can get up. You're just not trying.  :roll:
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5683 on: September 20, 2019, 08:24:17 PM »
.....just keepin'you blokes guessin :wink:
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5684 on: September 20, 2019, 10:17:11 PM »
.....just keepin'you blokes guessin :wink:
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