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Australian Belly Tank, Camshafts.....
« Reply #750 on: September 23, 2009, 01:22:31 AM »

Grumm thanks for the tip on the home brew caper.
anyone who eats capers is weird, anyone who brews them is just plain foreign......


Fred, I'm with you on Coopers, one of my favorite memories of my first year at the salt was that Coopers Pale was cheaper, and colder at the lakeside canteen than it was ANYWHERE in Melbourne.

still sus' on Adelaide but................and we haven't even started on the water.

Now , on a more serious note and one entirely related to this thread.

On the spec sheet for the cam we are planning on getting for the new build of our motor it states " do not use high revs for the first two hours of operation".....why, specifically is that?

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #751 on: September 23, 2009, 02:14:04 AM »
Dr. G,
 Not the pro here on cams but they usually want you to run it around 2,000 rpm for at least 20 min. for cam break in. Long idle times aren't recommended at first either. The higher rpm should be avoided to give the rings a chance to settle in their new home. I don't imagine the valve train should have a lot of rpm for a while either. Roller cams might not need the break in time.  If your running heavy valve springs the cam should be broke in with lighter springs or low lift rockers.
 You'll probably get a lot of different methods to use but you're better off not to get in a hurry to wing it the first few running hours.
 Good to see you are able to spend some time on your lakester.

Harv


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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #752 on: September 23, 2009, 04:51:26 AM »
Thanks Harv.

I've since spoken to the cam-man and he thought we had flat tappets, we have rollers. So the advice ain't so critical, there won't be many new parts in the motor other than the cam. More to follow........
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Re: Australian Belly Tank, Camshafts.....
« Reply #753 on: October 06, 2009, 03:49:06 AM »

Fred, I'm with you on Coopers, one of my favorite memories of my first year at the salt was that Coopers Pale was cheaper, and colder at the lakeside canteen than it was ANYWHERE in Melbourne.

still sus' on Adelaide but................and we haven't even started on the water.

DrG

I still don't get how a place with such bad water (adeliade) can make such nice beer (coopers)
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #754 on: October 10, 2009, 12:38:40 PM »
Dr G...........

Coopers and bad water are more important at this time than how to break in a cam.

You better have plenty of Coopers available if u keep waiting to "get started" on the engine.

Is the new "salt" t-shirt designed yet?  2010 may require a separate container just to ship shirts to B'ville.

It seems to me that the break from the Mother Land is complete with this discussion of COLD beer.

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #755 on: November 16, 2009, 05:56:34 PM »
Anyhow, moving on from beer, and getting bcak to the build diary
The new, second hand, but somewhat less secondhand than our previous 3 engines,  engine has arrived
G

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #756 on: November 16, 2009, 06:25:33 PM »
Doc and Grumm, you guys better get to work... you are less than 8000 views to 100K.  As the say in New Orleans... Show us your stuff...
BTW, PM me your shirt sizes and a shipping address
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #757 on: November 17, 2009, 11:33:51 PM »
I am at work
So is the motor
now i just need our most recent motor to take "the good bits" off
Looks pretty odd in workshop full of bikes
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #758 on: November 19, 2009, 05:49:23 AM »
ok,ok,ok...I'll bring the motor over after the weekend......actually better still I'll just bring over the top end , because you probably don't want the rest of it...I can't get it into the ute because I've got this on it



WTF ? I here echoing around the LSR community....well, we've got this little gig on....she said" I've got this idea, why don't we do a gig called "In the Bacharach of the ute"....me being the do now think later type said, " er , what are we waiting for?".......yeah well , it turned into a bit of a monster...we have the first show this weekend at a street festival...We're doing a bunch of Burt songs..on a ute

Anyways back to the topic which from memory was "Australian Bellytank"......It turns out the people who made a semi affordable billet flywheels here that we need for the motor have lost interest leaving it to the people who do it on a change over basis...."give us your left testicle and we'll give you a flywheel...but not for free"....so we got the bottom end for a very reasonable price, Karma has come to visit and we will be forced to pay very unreasonable prices for a flywheel and the cam, thank god it's only one ....

Meanwhile the Reverend has gone missing in action, he's Architecturing on the new Children's Hospital across the road from my work , I ain't never seen something so big go up so fast, six months ahead of sched' he reckons, and that's a problem for a whole lot of reasons.....least of all he's working too hard , too long and not seeing enough of his new bub.

Myself, apart from the aforementioned gig, has four other bands that have gigs coming up.......and a set to build for a play.....it's a bombsite here...And at work?...well we won't be running out of homeless people anytime soon as far as I can see, but.After Christmas it's tank, tank, tank.

If Jack was around I'd ask him but here goes, who like to offer suggestions on a cam profile for this motor in a gas NA format..........??
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #759 on: November 19, 2009, 06:05:42 AM »
hi stew, andrew hallam at my work would be able to help with a cam profile. he's a big fan of your tank. and what do you think of kermits new bodywork.

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #760 on: November 19, 2009, 02:23:51 PM »
hi stew, andrew hallam at my work would be able to help with a cam profile. he's a big fan of your tank. and what do you think of kermits new bodywork.



I'm liking it Benny, but like I said to Wayno yesterday, it looks great but someone has parked a vehicle in front of ...oh right ...nah, it looks great, bit of paint that's gonna look really spesh,...................have you got any closer to working out whether you'll make it next year?I think I can see why you're down on the racing budget..... :wink:

I've been talking to Wades about the bump stick but I figured there'd be folk here who campaigned Buicks and would have some good advice.

I dunno when you took that photo but after the heat last week my grass is the color of that fence :oops:
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #761 on: November 19, 2009, 10:39:39 PM »
ok,ok,ok...I'll bring the motor over after the weekend......actually better still I'll just bring over the top end , because you probably don't want the rest of it...I can't get it into the ute because I've got this on it

What about you bring the whole motor and let me decide which bits I'm going to use.
I don't want you messing about with it after your previuos efforts
Also, I will not be here next weekas i am getting some service work done on my leg.
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #762 on: November 19, 2009, 11:07:37 PM »
Congrats on reaching your milestone Grumm.
By the way, were you 'sposta write anything in my log book this year ?
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #763 on: November 20, 2009, 12:32:02 AM »
ok,ok,ok...I'll bring the motor over after the weekend......actually better still I'll just bring over the top end , because you probably don't want the rest of it...I can't get it into the ute because I've got this on it

What about you bring the whole motor and let me decide which bits I'm going to use.
I don't want you messing about with it after your previuos efforts
Also, I will not be here next weekas i am getting some service work done on my leg.
G
hey thanks for the vote of confidence.......It's a pity that Ollie isn't around anymore( that was my dog folks) 'cause Ollie seemed to like servicing your leg....................free shoe polish and a service with a smile.....
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #764 on: November 21, 2009, 01:55:48 AM »
Congrats on reaching your milestone Grumm.
By the way, were you 'sposta write anything in my log book this year ?
Tiny

Yes Tiny I probably was, but was given no instructions on filling in logbooks.
At least you had a log book.

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