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Offline grumm441

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5595 on: March 19, 2018, 05:41:31 PM »
Does that mean you are pulling the car back after Grumm's wife makes a run?

There was a Corinne entered, but it was not my wife.
Part of the happy couple who own prancingponybrewery.com.au
Corinna and Frank are one of the event sponsors
They run a couple of bikes and also bring a portable bar and some (a lot) of samples
And as Mt Ive Station holds the liquor license for the event, they can't sell them......
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5596 on: March 19, 2018, 06:44:27 PM »
Few understand what I'm trying to do but they vastly outnumber those who understand why...................

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5597 on: March 21, 2018, 06:40:09 PM »
Well here I am sitting at home, I just dropped Stainless and Johnboy at Melbourne Airport. It has been an absolute blast having them here they were invaluable, hilarious and it has truly been one of the fun times of my life having them come with us to Speedweek. Last night Cassie and I took the boys to the Mount Macedon Hotel our favourite local 20 minutes away through kangaroo territory and up over Mt Macedon. We had craft beers and pizza and laughed, they are two of the great characters of the salt racing community. One of the locals accosted us while we were sitting there and asked us what we were up to, it turns out she and her husband were friends of Greg Watters, of course they were.......

Next week we've got Wayno and KC staying after they have been to the Grand Prix in Melbourne.

It was a complete bummer that we didn't get to make any runs, we did our absolute best with the time we had available and threw absolutely everything we had at it but in the end that wasn't quite enough. Next year we'll have a good basis to work from. This weekend the Colonel and I will pull the motor and box and build a dolly to take the whole drivetrain and accessories so it can be taken to the dyno and set up with a Haltech management system.

I'm going to try and beat our house into shape now it's been kind of ignored for a bit and then I have to look for a new job, here's to another year.

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5598 on: March 21, 2018, 11:42:42 PM »
just hit the lotto instead of looking for a job :-D
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5599 on: March 22, 2018, 12:02:22 AM »
just hit the lotto instead of looking for a job :-D

This is racing Bill, I'm doing both. :cheers:
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5600 on: March 24, 2018, 10:04:02 PM »
Hey Doc, lets try this... anyone out there an Electromotive ECU Guru? or know one

The ECU in the SoS did not seem to come with the Bin File so we could not do anything with the throttle position sensor issue that was making it run extremely fat and showing a TP fault. 
Anyone out there got a guru in their pocket  :cheers:
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5601 on: March 24, 2018, 11:14:58 PM »
Ok so I will ask the basic question so you can say yes checked
you tested the TPS that it worked and the pin out were correct to the ecu ?

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5602 on: March 24, 2018, 11:42:38 PM »
Well I know the computer showed voltage movement when the throttle was moved 0-3.6v but it also showed constant TPS error.  The ECU and harness came on the motor.  I'll almost bet they don't have the pin out diagram yet.
Did I mention it ran in the car for the first time on Thursday... although it could have been Wednesday... either way, we were on the salt
ya know they are all Saturday to me  :cheers:
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5603 on: March 24, 2018, 11:49:15 PM »
Hey Doc, lets try this... anyone out there an Electromotive ECU Guru? or know one

The ECU in the SoS did not seem to come with the Bin File so we could not do anything with the throttle position sensor issue that was making it run extremely fat and showing a TP fault.  
Anyone out there got a guru in their pocket  :cheers:
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We have Nigel Powells here who is an Electromotive buff bu his suggestion as we were leaving was turn up the fuel pressure and hope for the best because without the bin file you won't get in.

I've been thinking about the whole episode and what happened would seem crazy and chaotic to a bystander. In a way it was but if you've ever built and run a lakester you might understand. We built the car around a wet sump Buick V6 with a water tank, we put in a Chev with big HRD heads, a different transmission and a dry sump with all the plumbing and tank. We couldn't run the motor til we'd plumbed everything, with the time constraints we had the time building was best spent aiming for completion not dummy running. Remember, we fitted 10lb of shite into a 5lb bag with the Holden/Buick motor, with the Chev the stakes were raised to 15lb.
We only got the oiling system completely plumbed 24hours out, we were cutting pieces of the air box away in order to plumb the cooling system on the day we left, we still hadn't got the cowl to fit with everything in it until then.
Into this maelstrom of blood, guts and poo strode Stainless and Johnboy, they were like magic, but at that point we needed something more than magic, we needed that fu**ing bin file.

That bin file is probably in the same tear in the time space continuum that the car's log book is. It has never left the bag with our safety gear in it for anything less than the time it took to tech the car but for some reason it cannot be found EITHER.....
« Last Edit: March 24, 2018, 11:52:07 PM by Dr Goggles »
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5604 on: March 25, 2018, 01:17:16 AM »
Google is ya mate! :-)
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5605 on: March 25, 2018, 01:41:30 AM »
At the lake Google has no friends.
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5606 on: March 25, 2018, 08:31:38 AM »
There's been a update in the firmware and associated software with Electromotive.

If your system came with the engine, it's old.

If you used a new software download, the bin file that's likely still in the ecu wouldn't be properly recognized.

I've got an older version of Wintec that may or may not be of help.
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5607 on: March 26, 2018, 03:05:00 AM »
There's been a update in the firmware and associated software with Electromotive.

If your system came with the engine, it's old.

If you used a new software download, the bin file that's likely still in the ecu wouldn't be properly recognized.

I've got an older version of Wintec that may or may not be of help.

Yep, crossed all those T's and dotted those I's
Tried all the versions of wintec that were available
Tested the pin outs on the tps
tested the wiring

It pointed to a dud tps and a few other tuning issues
The electromotive guy keeps telling me to print the bin file, but it just will not play
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5608 on: March 26, 2018, 08:42:16 AM »

I have one more card up my sleeve.


Of course you do - this is why I don't play poker with Aussies . . .  :wink:
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5609 on: March 26, 2018, 02:01:21 PM »
some of the early EFI systems interchanged the use Chrysler and GM tps ---they looked and mounted similar but the wires were backward from each other---caused all kinds of headaches before we figured that one out.
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