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Offline Stainless1

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5295 on: December 28, 2016, 11:04:28 PM »
Beat me to it Sparky  :cheers:
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5296 on: December 29, 2016, 07:18:08 AM »
You hate to lose the lines of this car, and you hate to monkey with a chassis combination that has worked so well, but packaging was designed around an unusual combination.  A few more inches today would open it up to a lot more options in the future, and I hate to say it, but if you're going to lengthen it, perhaps setting it up for a V8 would be appropriate at this time.

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5297 on: December 29, 2016, 02:50:42 PM »

Last timing light should be at the six this year, it was at the five last year.
I told everyone that at the drivers meeting. Weren't you listening?

I was listing to port a bit last year, listening not so much.

I like the G101A solution, might involve selling some guitars though.


You hate to lose the lines of this car, and you hate to monkey with a chassis combination that has worked so well, but packaging was designed around an unusual combination.  A few more inches today would open it up to a lot more options in the future, and I hate to say it, but if you're going to lengthen it, perhaps setting it up for a V8 would be appropriate at this time.

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5298 on: December 29, 2016, 04:09:49 PM »
Yeah, sounds like that might be the right decision Mate.
  Sid.

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yepers--- if 6 is good 12 is better :-D

You hate to lose the lines of this car, and you hate to monkey with a chassis combination that has worked so well, but packaging was designed around an unusual combination.  A few more inches today would open it up to a lot more options in the future, and I hate to say it, but if you're going to lengthen it, perhaps setting it up for a V8 would be appropriate at this time.

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I think six will work just fine
I've got a 350 here that would almost fit if we ran an electric water pump
And with a short gearbox, G101A, it would work almost as it is
However, I still have to rework the bottom frame tubes to fit the current motor in.
So that involves cutting them  and the front cross braces out and remaking them.
Not significantly more work to lengthen to top two at the same time
My Dad is bringing round a proper engine guy tommorow morning to talk to me and see if he's interested in helping out
But we still need a flywheel, starter, twin plate clutch and gearbox
And the renevations don't stop for land speed racing

Other than that. the sky opened last night and there was a queue of animals heading up the street to Noah's house
As part of my new garage mahal, although not quite as big as Wayno's, I put 2 x 2000 litre water tanks behind it.
The lovely Corinne left the tap on during the week, not her fault as I was pouring the homebrew, and we now know how long they take to empty
They were still empty yesterday morning. They're full today
And the 8 cubic meters of soil is thankfully still where I put it

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5299 on: December 29, 2016, 05:18:28 PM »
Is your more HP going to need more cooling.... more fuel...6 inches is not really that much... 12 inches might give you room for turbos in the future, a little more flexibility on transmission....
 hate to see you need to stretch it again in 5 years  :cheers:
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5300 on: December 29, 2016, 06:28:34 PM »
Turbo's!
it's almost fast enough already

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5301 on: December 29, 2016, 06:58:57 PM »
They're never fast enough Mate. What Stainless said.....
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5302 on: December 29, 2016, 07:37:34 PM »
If you are considering the G101A I'll help however I can. I did the drawings for the shorty conversion and had them CNC'd where I work.

It is a bit pricey but is rated way above what I ever need and most importantly fit the size constraint.  An added bonus is how quickly it shifts since it is dog plate as opposed to conventional syncros. I had all the internals REM micro polished which G-Force does in house. It also helped their are located about 1.5 hours from me and let me look at anything I wanted and I even got a bare case to modify and test fit prior to assembly.

They offer a bunch of different input shaft splines which they will machine to any length and pilot diameter you want. Same for the bearing retainer locating diameter and length. I was able to get bolt up scenario behind a 59A flathead using a 1948-52 big truck adapter and use the stock Ford throw out bearing. Anything is possible!

If interested PM me your email address and I can send you the info I have so you can ponder your choices.

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5303 on: December 29, 2016, 10:27:07 PM »
All right we are on the way now   a G Force with   something like

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5304 on: December 29, 2016, 11:42:54 PM »
hate to see you need to stretch it again in 5 years  :cheers:

That's a lie. You will happily sit back with a drink and some chips and watch with glee  :cheers:
If you are considering the G101A I'll help however I can. I did the drawings for the shorty conversion and had them CNC'd where I work.

It is a bit pricey but is rated way above what I ever need and most importantly fit the size constraint.  An added bonus is how quickly it shifts since it is dog plate as opposed to conventional syncros. I had all the internals REM micro polished which G-Force does in house. It also helped their are located about 1.5 hours from me and let me look at anything I wanted and I even got a bare case to modify and test fit prior to assembly.

They offer a bunch of different input shaft splines which they will machine to any length and pilot diameter you want. Same for the bearing retainer locating diameter and length. I was able to get bolt up scenario behind a 59A flathead using a 1948-52 big truck adapter and use the stock Ford throw out bearing. Anything is possible!

If interested PM me your email address and I can send you the info I have so you can ponder your choices.

Andy

There's a few guitars looking nervous at my place.....
Turbo's!
it's almost fast enough already

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Almost, we could turbo our F class motor idea....there's a certain F/BL record that would look nice with our name on it.... :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5305 on: December 30, 2016, 04:00:39 AM »
Is your water tank going to be big enough for the new bhp?
(yet more length needed ?)

As for selling guitars. :-o....thats a crime against music.
Sell the dog, the computer, the car but not guitars.


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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5306 on: December 30, 2016, 06:51:33 AM »
Keep the dog, definitely don't sell the dog!. :lol:

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5307 on: January 01, 2017, 12:50:40 AM »
I've got the odd motorcycle taking up space
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5308 on: January 01, 2017, 02:04:14 PM »
Yeah I know the feeling Mate, I have a cuppla muscle cars that will probably help me get my long pile of parts to Gairdner. There comes a time when one toy kicks another one out of the toy box.
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5309 on: January 01, 2017, 05:02:10 PM »
Selling the Monaro has come up at my place once or twice
Although I'm fairly confidant there would not be much left for lakesters
Speaking of which, Cookie has been busy
http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,12671.150.html

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