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Offline Dr Goggles

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5250 on: December 17, 2016, 04:39:47 PM »
How long are they Sid?
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5251 on: December 17, 2016, 04:49:52 PM »
Yeah, that was my thought too, a Bert, but I wondered if they were around there for the scroungers price we tend to build with. What about using a 4X transfer case with a coupler on the crank, high & low range gives you two gears. You could push off with the engine running then slide it into low range when it lines up then float shift it into high range for the big one.
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the 4x transfer case wouldn't really work due the concept of float shifting
Trying to keep it simple
My anti virus won't let me look at the Bert catalog. but apart from the clutch setup I think one would be
pretty good. Although I haven't been able to find a second hand one anywhere here
A new one seems pretty cheap compared to what else is available

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5252 on: December 17, 2016, 05:36:54 PM »
How long are they Sid?
My thought was what ever you have locally, Jap probably, about everything should be shorter than a Glide! You can range shift an electrical control type on the fly in a road vehicle, why not in your application. A Bert coupler on the crank & a short custom shaft to the T-case hooks you up. Some sort of adaptor ring to center it on the bellhousing & drill some holes & shift it with a switch.
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5254 on: December 18, 2016, 03:01:19 PM »
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5255 on: December 19, 2016, 03:14:38 PM »
If you are considering T-10 trans, I used a G-Force G101A which is loosely based on the T-10 style construction.  With no tail housing or reverse gears mine is right around 13.25" from front of trans face to rear of Mark Williams coupler.  Could have been a hair shorter but not much.  T-10 dimensions would be pretty much identical.

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5256 on: December 19, 2016, 05:44:49 PM »
This sort of Bert ?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BERT-DIRT-MODIFIED-TRANSMISSION-ALUMINUM-TRANNY-UPM-LATE-MODLE-DRAG-/221809478304

Yes, one a lot like that, however I think we want to run a clutch
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If you check the Bert website it appears a lot of his transmissions have an internal clutch. I don't really know what this consists of or how it operates.

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5257 on: December 20, 2016, 02:04:11 AM »
If you are considering T-10 trans, I used a G-Force G101A which is loosely based on the T-10 style construction.  With no tail housing or reverse gears mine is right around 13.25" from front of trans face to rear of Mark Williams coupler.  Could have been a hair shorter but not much.  T-10 dimensions would be pretty much identical.

Andy

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Andy, I like that a lot



If you check the Bert website it appears a lot of his transmissions have an internal clutch. I don't really know what this consists of or how it operates.

Pete

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5258 on: December 20, 2016, 03:52:00 AM »
If you are considering T-10 trans, I used a G-Force G101A which is loosely based on the T-10 style construction.  With no tail housing or reverse gears mine is right around 13.25" from front of trans face to rear of Mark Williams coupler.  Could have been a hair shorter but not much.  T-10 dimensions would be pretty much identical.

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Andy, everytime I see your stuff my faith in my own abilities shrinks a little, it's all gorgeous.

This change of direction gearbox wise will save us $$ compared to trying to mate the Chev to what we have, it will also afford us some strength insurance.

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5259 on: December 23, 2016, 08:55:22 PM »
Anybody down there notice you guys were over a Million views on this thread....
So get to work, you have a lot of folks to impress  :cheers:
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5260 on: December 23, 2016, 09:10:08 PM »
Anybody down there notice you guys were over a Million views on this thread....
So get to work, you have a lot of folks to impress  :cheers:

At about 91,000 views a year it's almost as much as the Midget at 102,000 a year however we've done it mostly with smoke and mirrors......... :wink: but for three blokes with four good legs, enough hair for two and teeth for one and a half we go OK.
Few understand what I'm trying to do but they vastly outnumber those who understand why...................

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5261 on: December 23, 2016, 10:43:26 PM »
Must be time for some product placement
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5262 on: December 24, 2016, 09:14:01 AM »

At about 91,000 views a year it's almost as much as the Midget at 102,000 a year however we've done it mostly with smoke and mirrors......... :wink: but for three blokes with four good legs, enough hair for two and teeth for one and a half we go OK.

No no no no no - There is little in the way of "smoke and mirrors" in what you've accomplished.

The Spirit of Sunshine is a world class lakester and one of the most beautiful examples of the drop tank variety ever created.  It's remarkably well engineered.  The team members all have compelling stories to tell, and your support from members of this community is absolutely second to none.

The only reason the Midget has outpaced you on this forum in the number of views is that I've started out with a vehicle that had a production run of nearly a quarter of a million cars, half of them are still running - to varying degrees of efficiency - and the owners tend to be rabid freaks like myself.  Most of those clicks are from non-lsr types. 

I hear from them from time to time, and it's fun, but a lot of them simply don't get it.  I find myself coming back to Goggles' tag line almost every time - "Few understand what I'm trying to do but they vastly outnumber those who understand why"
   

There's only one Spirit of Sunshine. 

Factor in the denominator, boys . . . 

Merry Christmas from Beerhaven.  :cheers:  :cheers:  :cheers:

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5263 on: December 25, 2016, 03:05:47 AM »
So getting back to that product placement
G



So the tank is placed in my shed



which gets it closer to the engine (thanks Robin)



And something from my real job, (thanks Barry)
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #5264 on: December 25, 2016, 10:32:40 AM »
Wow, Grummy - those floors are really clean.

When did you stop working on Brit bikes?  :roll:
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