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Offline Dr Goggles

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #3660 on: March 24, 2013, 11:03:42 PM »
OK

There is a possibility of another meet at Lake Gairdner in October or November.

You were expecting me to go on about how i am vexed?......nope, we're going, if it's on, we're going.

We have some unfinished business and the "to-do" list is relatively short. In fact a brief discussion today with the Colonel has me scheming.......

We are going to fit the 2.28:1 diff. We need about 300 more on the red-line. I will do some searching amongst the local Commodore( the model the engine comes from) crew and find the cracks for the Delco computer as we know that they have been used in several race series with engines running to 7500rpm, and , anecdotaly  I have heard the limiter in the VE table discussed........we figured that our top speeds were both at the same rpm(6375) and that there is a ramp there, killing everything by 6400.

I'll finish the second vac-u-pan, have a frig around with the shift and maybe lift the steering wheel a little.

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #3661 on: March 25, 2013, 06:16:25 AM »
As cool as this sounds why do I get the memory of the rebels tour of South Africa drifting into my mind...?

Given the running requirements of the event will there be a critical mass of willing participants who have holiday leave enough to go to make this happen?

Given this years attendance it may have (but there hasn't been a meet in a long time so the numbers would be inflated above average) yet it feels a bit like second banana with a possibility of political issues.

At the end of the day we built the car to race and so more opportunity to do that is great but I am uneasy at the potential fracturing of the sport. The togetherness and incredible diverse range of people coming to celebrate the one thing is part of its charm.

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #3662 on: March 25, 2013, 08:58:28 AM »




Raise the steering wheel  :? won't that screw up the steering dampener...

I would think lower the knees would be a better idea, it is hard to drive in the fetal position.  Now I see why Graham had issues with the clutch.
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #3663 on: March 25, 2013, 09:13:43 AM »
If the engine is going to be out of the car anyway and you can't change out to forged pistons, I'd get 'em Zygloed, then mag the crank and shot peen the rods.

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #3664 on: March 25, 2013, 09:50:16 AM »

I would think lower the knees would be a better idea, it is hard to drive in the fetal position.  Now I see why Graham had issues with the clutch.
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #3665 on: March 25, 2013, 03:22:56 PM »
Have you thought about a plug and play ecu like the haltec e6gm
 probably cheaper than some of the options on the std ecu
see them on ebay often


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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #3666 on: March 25, 2013, 04:56:47 PM »
Chris: I've heard that the last recognizable evidence of human existance on this rock will be some connecting rods out of these motors. Apparently they are made from goats-kneesium alloy, you can buy them for about 5 cents apiece because of their abundance........point taken , on everything else.....as far as the motor goes we haven't pulled it's pants down for a look yet , when we do you's'll know all about it because for all we know there could be sh1t everywhere.
Maj: Yes, point. Jon sent me some links last night which were for Kalmaker who has a good rep amongst the Commodore crew, he has delcos that top out at 9600. We ended up where we are now in a kind of convoluted fashion. First we didn't have that much power, so we thought we could just chip the ecu and over rev it. Then i mangled the motor. When we went to the dyno we ended up with another chip of mixed parentage and in the end of the session a secret Colonel tune
We also have help on offer from Nigel and some Electromotive stuff.......we need to sit down, me and the Colonel and try and come up with some sort of plan that's achievable time and money wise.
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #3667 on: March 25, 2013, 07:22:45 PM »
 :cheers:  love the 9600
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #3668 on: March 25, 2013, 07:42:29 PM »
:cheers:  love the 9600

Yeah, wouldn't we, I reckon we'd have holes in everything, including the cowl a long time before that.......we need 6600, maybe a dash more..... still not seeing any tire slip in our figures

6600rpm X 2.28:1 x 28 = 241mph

The proposed meet in October is at this point going to have a timed 1/4 at the three. We need clocks on the 5 and the 6.....discussion continuing.
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #3669 on: March 25, 2013, 08:03:57 PM »
I have a pair of Electromotive Tec 2's with fuel on the KB. All Tec 3's have fuel & ign.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Electromotive-TEC3-Engine-Control-System-/181107918429?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a2adf865d&vxp=mtr

These guys are the west coast distributor for Electromotive.
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Pretty sure your GM sensors are compatible.
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #3670 on: March 25, 2013, 08:22:25 PM »
We think tire slip = tire growth.

Don't worry about it -- unless you got a bunch of it, and you'll know it.
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #3671 on: March 25, 2013, 10:44:56 PM »
Chris: I've heard that the last recognizable evidence of human existance on this rock will be some connecting rods out of these motors.

I have this weird picture in my head of the mummified remains of Keith Richards dug up by extraterrestrial archeologists wrenching on a Commode door . . .
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #3672 on: March 25, 2013, 10:57:30 PM »
Chris: I've heard that the last recognizable evidence of human existance on this rock will be some connecting rods out of these motors.

I have this weird picture in my head of the mummified remains of Keith Richards dug up by extraterrestrial archeologists wrenching on a Commode door . . .

When someone, in some distant time from now "discovers" the earth they will find a few con-rods out of a Commodore V6. By looking at the unpolished grain of the metal they no doubt will have some way of reading witness marks in the granular structure that will have recorded the entire history of the con-rod's life.........in the very first chapter they will see a bunch of Maltese guys at GMH's Fisherman's Bend plant , in overalls, smoking and talking about football. That will be the sum-total of the earth's history. Oh yeah, and one of them had a Keith Richards tattoo, that will be there too.
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #3673 on: April 02, 2013, 05:06:22 PM »
It's a Haltech
Just plugs into the loom, uses the same senders, that's us, Munga DOS
Jon bought one in Queensland that I had already corresponded with the vendor about.....seems there is a unique language in Queensland....anyway, he did the drive and picked it up for the SOS, he's a champ . He was so pleased with himself he decided to wake me up with a text message this morning....
As Jon pointed out another advantage for us with the P&P ability is at worst we can sub a Delco computer back into it if we are completely at sea
If as we did this year have to pull the balancer, or damage the C.A.S they are easy to get. as the vintage of model that our motor comes from now is just above rubbish value, shame to ignore a cheap source iof parts.........
Just gimmee a couple hundred more revs, that's all I ask....
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #3674 on: April 02, 2013, 06:42:46 PM »
This may help:
http://androiddummies.com/android-phone-dummies/how-to-put-your-android-phone-in-vibrationsilent-mode/

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