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Offline grumm441

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #3330 on: January 24, 2013, 04:26:37 PM »
So is Dik coming or are you running in two classes

Just got to go and buy some 7.850 pushrods then it's back together
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #3331 on: January 24, 2013, 05:15:35 PM »
Just got to go and buy some 7.850 pushrods then it's back together
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Nice, off to the Dyno or straight in?

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #3332 on: January 24, 2013, 05:49:25 PM »
Dyno???
No
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #3333 on: January 24, 2013, 08:47:34 PM »
  About 300 metric HP. Or 200 U.S. If it aint leaking oil and water all over who cares how much power she makes! :evil:

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #3334 on: January 24, 2013, 09:22:31 PM »
  About 300 metric HP. Or 200 U.S. If it aint leaking oil and water all over who cares how much power she makes! :evil:

Yep, dynos are usefull for a lot of things other than just getting a hp graph for bragging to your mates.
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #3335 on: January 24, 2013, 10:47:03 PM »
It spent three days on an engine dyno about a year ago, not much has changed but pushrods and gaskets
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #3336 on: January 25, 2013, 12:03:05 AM »
It spent three days on an engine dyno about a year ago, not much has changed but pushrods and gaskets
G

And rear diff and shifter, and hey, when was the last time you knew for certain the fuel pump was keeping up? 

Just sayin' - at this point, I'd test it as a package.  Not for numbers, just to re-prove the concept.

Three hours on a chassis dyno, check the A/F, make sure the valvetrain is staying put, that the car still shifts and stays in gear and that the diff isn't welding itself together - tweak the rest of it on the salt.  Turn around is a lot faster on a chassis dyno than waiting in line on the salt.  Parts availability is also better in town.

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #3337 on: January 25, 2013, 01:15:43 AM »





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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #3338 on: January 25, 2013, 02:24:22 AM »
And rear diff and shifter, and hey, when was the last time you knew for certain the fuel pump was keeping up? 

Just sayin' - at this point, I'd test it as a package.  Not for numbers, just to re-prove the concept.

Three hours on a chassis dyno, check the A/F, make sure the valvetrain is staying put, that the car still shifts and stays in gear and that the diff isn't welding itself together - tweak the rest of it on the salt.  Turn around is a lot faster on a chassis dyno than waiting in line on the salt.  Parts availability is also better in town.

Yeah, I know, I know - back to my asteroid . . .


Chassis-dyno? hahaha, hahahahahahahaha........we'd be paying for three hours loading the freakin thing IN THERE....The amount of time it takes to load and unload this thing, even if it didn't have the body on, is ridiculous

Good points Chris but we can really only consider engine dyno's.

The fuel pump is almost capable of outstripping a bowser, it's a Bosch 910.

Now, today I went shopping. Checked her over properly, recabbed ten years ago she's had a little bit of work on the lower doors but is essentially rust free. 302 has 70kmiles, suspension is all fresh as are the brakes, new exhaust, two batteries, two spares, floor and chassis are rust free and super straight. It has 125l Gasoline and 150l LPG.



These are made for putting a push bar on.....

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #3339 on: January 25, 2013, 05:09:45 AM »
It's going to need some giant mirrors, with lights on the front
and three orange or green lights on the sun visor.
but it looks good otherwise
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #3340 on: January 25, 2013, 05:21:08 AM »
I'm just thinking about how easy it would be to put the whole car on a dyno
1 inch of ground clearance
no radiator
geared to make maximum hp at 200+ mph

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #3341 on: January 25, 2013, 07:29:31 AM »
Comes with giant mirrors, and electric brake controller.

Has three moving parts.

Oh, and stickers.
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #3342 on: January 25, 2013, 09:54:18 AM »

Goggs, if you look at Tims Unibody thread on the HAMB or other shots of our teams push rig you can see what we run for a pusher. Tims tow rig is the same as you just bought. I will see if i have a shot of it somewhere.



And rear diff and shifter, and hey, when was the last time you knew for certain the fuel pump was keeping up? 

Just sayin' - at this point, I'd test it as a package.  Not for numbers, just to re-prove the concept.

Three hours on a chassis dyno, check the A/F, make sure the valvetrain is staying put, that the car still shifts and stays in gear and that the diff isn't welding itself together - tweak the rest of it on the salt.  Turn around is a lot faster on a chassis dyno than waiting in line on the salt.  Parts availability is also better in town.

Yeah, I know, I know - back to my asteroid . . .


Chassis-dyno? hahaha, hahahahahahahaha........we'd be paying for three hours loading the freakin thing IN THERE....The amount of time it takes to load and unload this thing, even if it didn't have the body on, is ridiculous

Good points Chris but we can really only consider engine dyno's.

The fuel pump is almost capable of outstripping a bowser, it's a Bosch 910.

Now, today I went shopping. Checked her over properly, recabbed ten years ago she's had a little bit of work on the lower doors but is essentially rust free. 302 has 70kmiles, suspension is all fresh as are the brakes, new exhaust, two batteries, two spares, floor and chassis are rust free and super straight. It has 125l Gasoline and 150l LPG.



These are made for putting a push bar on.....




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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #3343 on: January 25, 2013, 10:11:48 AM »
Find someone with a Dyno like this, one of the manufacturers of these is on your side of the world.  Pull the tires off, mount the adapter hubs, bolt on the dyno.  No tire issues, no tying down, no clearance issues, takes about 30 minutes for one person to have a car ready to go.
Don't fret the no radiator thing, just keep changing water and blow air in the oil pan or cooler between runs.  They do way more than just sweep runs and handle about 250 MPH.
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #3344 on: January 25, 2013, 01:19:42 PM »
Stainless,
That is an interesting dyno. Does it measure torque/hp by accelerating a flywheel or is there some sort of electric motor/generator in the red boxes that applies load? What is the make?

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