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Offline RIFLEMAN

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Legal 200+mph class bike tires
« on: September 11, 2010, 03:46:35 AM »
 I bought a set of these. Van says they're legal. Killer price.
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220463385528&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
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Offline nrhs sales

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Re: Legal 200+mph class bike tires
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2010, 10:31:38 AM »
that looks like a great price and I saw several reports of riders using those at speedweek and they were  very happy with them.

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« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2010, 02:54:03 PM »
Mike,

Good write-up here: http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=36200

Does SCTA mandate tire brands/models such as the BT-003RS?

AMA/BUB is pretty flexible as regards tire choices:

2.Q. TIRES
It is recommended that tires are rated for the appropriate speeds
and, use is at the sole discretion of the participant. The rider has
the sole responsibility of inspecting the condition of the tire before
and after each run.




Offline joea

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Re: Legal 200+mph class bike tires
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2010, 03:12:25 PM »
....pot...kettle...irony...


Offline John Noonan

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Re: Legal 200+mph class bike tires
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2010, 07:03:03 PM »
....pot...kettle...irony...



Joe..

Exactly... :mrgreen:

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Re: Legal 200+mph class bike tires
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2010, 07:57:20 PM »
this from a guy who when asked what tires he would recommend would not say anything. 

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Re: Legal 200+mph class bike tires
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2010, 08:38:36 PM »
This Racer ran 252, 248, 242, 240, 235 and 232 mph with an SCTA approved tire and will again run an SCTA approved tire next month as well..you want to see my tire..Send me your email and I will take a picture on my BST rear wheel..please do  not post it as it is a secret... :roll:

PM me your email as I am certain I do not have it.

If not come out and see for yourself next month as a racer I will again be there...when do you race next..or even the last time you raced ..?

Yes I know you don't race however you seem to want to have a say so for the SCTA rules yet I have never see you at once of those events.

Did you submit a rules change request before the deadline the other day?

I doubt you did however I know you are very concerned for the racers you support/sponsor and I expect that however if you don't have racers at these events why make a bunch of comments on a BB that does nothing to further LSR racing and the safety of the riders/racers.

Papi set a PP record today on the tires the SCTA approved for him today as well.

Congrats to Papi..

J
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Re: Legal 200+mph class bike tires
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2010, 09:03:18 PM »
this from a guy who when asked what tires he would recommend would not say anything. 

 Try the ignore feature. Works wonderfully.
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Offline John Noonan

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Re: Legal 200+mph class bike tires
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2010, 09:13:26 PM »
this from a guy who when asked what tires he would recommend would not say anything. 

 Try the ignore feature. Works wonderfully.

To bad my post was directed at a non racer and not you... :roll:

Please ignore me, I like the non attention  :evil:

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« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2010, 09:45:44 PM »
Mike,

Good write-up here: http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=36200

Does SCTA mandate tire brands/models such as the BT-003RS?

AMA/BUB is pretty flexible as regards tire choices:

2.Q. TIRES
It is recommended that tires are rated for the appropriate speeds
and, use is at the sole discretion of the participant. The rider has
the sole responsibility of inspecting the condition of the tire before
and after each run.





 Things changed at the beginning of the year and bikes running in classes wth records over 200mph must run a so-called 'racing' tire. Since the motorcycle tire industry hasn't seen it fit to produce tires designed for speeds over 188mph(ZR rated with a W suffix)or a LSR specific tire and the bike bikes are now hitting "Ludicrous Speed",it has been decided that the best course of action is to require the use of D.O.T. legal tires that are homologated for roadracing use. Slower bikes can run regular street tires as long as the speed rating is higher than the record in their class and that class record is under 200mph.
 There is a wonderful 20 something page thread on this site discussing the decision(took almost 25 pages to get a straight answer outta the decision makers). Makes fascinating reading and really shows what a dysfunctional little group we are.
 As your group will most likely be running at speeds under 125mph,any of the major scooter tire mfg's wares ought to do just fine. If I remember correctly,the bottom of the scale is a T rated tire and thats good for I think 70mph(please correct me if I'm wrong anybody). Bridgestone,Dunlop and Michelin all make scooter tires that look like nothing more than scaled down versions of their motorcycle tires. IMHO I would stay away from the discount Chinese tires. If the performance of Shinko's competition motorcycle tires in our type of venue are any indication of Chinese quality,I know I wouldn't trust them or any other tire out of there. 
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Re: Legal 200+mph class bike tires
« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2010, 10:55:51 PM »
Shinko tires are bad on LSR bikes?  A lot of our drag racer friends run them with very good results.  What have you seen go wrong with Shinko tires on LSR bikes?

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Re: Legal 200+mph class bike tires
« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2010, 11:08:57 PM »
Dan,

Don't let anyone run them unless the speeds are very very low..

J

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Re: Legal 200+mph class bike tires
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2010, 11:45:54 PM »
what happens to them?   Tread seperation?  Cords  go bad?

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Re: Legal 200+mph class bike tires
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2010, 11:54:57 PM »
Several people have tried them and they have blistered faster than most tires..what works in a 9 second run may not in a 29 second run.

I think Don P ate a tire or two pretty quickly, they are a very soft DOT street/race/drag tire.

J


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Re: Legal 200+mph class bike tires
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2010, 12:02:44 AM »
That makes perfect sense.  The drag racers use them because they are indeed quite soft which is great for traction on pavement but obviously not so good for LSR racing.  Thanks for the insight.

BTW John and Joe
I respect  and admire both of you very much.   Your accomplishments in Motorcycle LSR racing are something most of us can only dream to emulate some day.  Just wish you both could try to be a  little more helpful instead of argumentative  on these forums.  We are all entitled to our opinions. But when someone does not agree with you instead of just friendly banter you both have this  habit of going on the attack.  A lot  of times you are right but instead of a constructive argument where you show the facts to prove you are right you go and put the person down.   This does nothing to enhance the forum or the sport.

Whether you like it or not, just like sports stars, you are held to a high standard by the accomplishments you both have made.  Be good ambassadors of the sport and keep it friendly.   Is that too much to ask?
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