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Offline Foowee

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Adding door bars to an autopower 4pt.?
« on: August 01, 2010, 12:57:24 PM »
Has anyone here added door bars to their bolt-in Autopower 4pt. bar to make it a 6pt.  If so does enable you to step up from 150mph to 175mph?

The only list of rules I've been able to find online is this one:  http://www.ecta-lsr.com/?page_id=21

I know there are far more rules.  Does anyone here have a link to an actual rule book?  Or do I have to buy one?

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Re: Adding door bars to an autopower 4pt.?
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2010, 01:01:35 PM »
How would adding door bars turn the cage into a 6 point? :? :?

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Re: Adding door bars to an autopower 4pt.?
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2010, 01:15:49 PM »
"III-2 ROLL BAR & ROLL CAGE: All cars in competition over 135 MPH, must be equipped with a roll bar or roll cage structure. All closed cars between 135 and 150 MPH must have a 4 point roll bar. All closed cars between 150 and 175 MPH must have a 6 - point roll bar.  All closed cars over 175 MPH must have a full roll cage. All open cars are advanced one bar / cage category over closed cars. Any individual wishing to enter a vehicle which deviates from these rules MUST contact the ECTA 45 days before the event for approval."

Am I mistaken?  I've been under the impression that the number of points the bar contact the floor= Xpt. Bar. 


So this is not an example of a 6pt. bar?

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Re: Adding door bars to an autopower 4pt.?
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2010, 01:21:39 PM »
Better buy the rule book
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Re: Adding door bars to an autopower 4pt.?
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2010, 02:15:39 PM »
Okay.  Thanks for the help y'all...  :roll:

Google image search for "6 point roll bar":


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Re: Adding door bars to an autopower 4pt.?
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2010, 02:16:38 PM »
A six point cage is a full four point cage plus the two back braces. All the supplementary bars and gussets will also be required. As Glen says, get a rule book.

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Re: Adding door bars to an autopower 4pt.?
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2010, 05:03:55 PM »
That will get you up to 175 at maxton But its your but in the seat+ next year all 175+mph cars will have head restrants.So for $100. you can have a cage good to 200 mph over what you have.
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Re: Adding door bars to an autopower 4pt.?
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2010, 05:40:07 PM »
Okay.  Thanks for the help y'all...  :roll:

Google image search for "6 point roll bar":




That roll bar is not legal at any SCTA / BNI event.
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Re: Adding door bars to an autopower 4pt.?
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2010, 12:29:53 AM »
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Re: Adding door bars to an autopower 4pt.?
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2010, 03:59:00 PM »
Well, I sent in my check for the rulebook...  We'll see just how much safety/speed I can afford.

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Re: Adding door bars to an autopower 4pt.?
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2010, 04:27:29 PM »
150-175MPH, 6 point Roll Bar for closed cars Section 3.B.
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Re: Adding door bars to an autopower 4pt.?
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2010, 06:05:51 PM »
If you are using a bolt in side bars, it needs to have grade 8 bolts and nuts...nylock nuts are not grade 8.
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Re: Adding door bars to an autopower 4pt.?
« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2010, 06:43:16 PM »
Mr Timney is WRONG!

Grade 8 Nylock Self Locking nuts are indeed available.

For example, check out NutsandBolts.com along with MANY other suppliers.
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Re: Adding door bars to an autopower 4pt.?
« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2010, 08:21:40 PM »
I am not sure about Grade 8  Nylocks,  but I am positive they make Grade 8 TopLock  locking nuts.

I will check my bolt bin and see about Grade 8  locking nut choices..

Fastenal shows both available,,, hmm I did not know that !!!!

Guess we are all correct now,,

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Re: Adding door bars to an autopower 4pt.?
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2010, 08:50:04 AM »
How do they note that on the product?
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