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Offline Peter Jack

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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #45 on: December 14, 2010, 09:09:02 PM »
It's probably fine with tech, but I'd be sure to remove the bolts right away after you get home from an event or you might never get the pan off.

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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #46 on: December 14, 2010, 09:28:30 PM »
Through bolts with nuts on as many parts of a Bonneville car as possible.  If bolting in an inaccessible area you may  not have a choice.  Salt will be everywhere, use anti-seize or moly grease on your hardware.
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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #47 on: December 15, 2010, 09:01:37 AM »

Thanks guys!
 
Most of the bolts are not accessible, so this will work well for us. We use anti-sieze in 5 gallon buckets at work, so we'll use plenty!
 
We'll be removing the bellypan to run /BVGALT, and will blow the car apart afterwards, to clean and get ready for WOS. We'll only run BVGC at WOS.
 
Of course, that's IF the engine stays together. We're trying to get a lot of ponies out of a long stroke, weak block flathead. There is very little center webbing to hold the side together. We'll have a thick crank girdle, and a thick 'bridge' on the top. This will be a thick plate, across both banks, with the intake and exhaust ports cut out. Hopefully this works!
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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #48 on: December 15, 2010, 11:10:14 AM »
You will best advised to written approval of the top plate from the Vintage Engine Committee before proceedimg with the build.

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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #49 on: December 15, 2010, 11:37:02 AM »
X2 what Dan said.  You can be assured that some sort of rule proposal on plates on top of vintage engines  :-o will be coming next year.  Better to design with that in mind.  Tony
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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #50 on: December 15, 2010, 02:12:23 PM »
Build it into your blower manifold. Which looks very nice, by the way.
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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #51 on: December 15, 2010, 02:31:43 PM »
Quote from: dw230 on December 15, 2010, 11:10:14 AM
You will best advised to written approval of the top plate from the Vintage Engine Committee before proceedimg with the build.

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Ok, I will. Guess I didn't see anything in the rules about it.

What if I do as Rich suggests, and make it part of my intake?

edit: I just spoke with Mike Stewart, and he said that based on what I described he didn't see a problem. He did say, however, that I need to submit the request, and they would look at it.

He also expained why some people might feel there is a concern. This plate does not affect the heads at all, it simply bolts on, and strengthens the block.The first pic shows the top of the block. The second shows my poor paint skills, where I attempt to show where the plate would go.
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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #52 on: December 17, 2010, 02:28:47 PM »
Frame and body are now coated, although we didn't coat the areas where GH will have to weld!

My wheels came in from Bob sage at The Wheelsmith. Wow, ordered and shipped in the same week, and that included the mounts for the Moon discs!

Body is now going back on, so that we can get the drivetrain 100% finished, beauty chop done, and the roll cage in.
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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #53 on: December 24, 2010, 11:53:32 AM »
Quote from: dw230 on December 15, 2010, 11:10:14 AM
You will best advised to written approval of the top plate from the Vintage Engine Committee before proceedimg with the build.

DW

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I submitted the request, and received the ok from Mike Stewart. Dan, I believe he CC'd you on it.
I also got the ok to split the siamesed ports.

So, onward we go!
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You can't make a race horse out of a pig. But if you work hard enough at it you can make a mighty fast pig. - Bob Akin

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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #54 on: December 24, 2010, 12:08:03 PM »
Great that you've got the official's words on the project.  I'd suggest further, though -- that you print out the response and stick that in your three-ring binred when you keep your logbook.  It might happen that the fellas inspecting your car out there - will not be familiar with the interpretation of the rule(s) and you'll have available proof of your intentions.

Best wishes - and we all look forward to seeing you on the salt!
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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #55 on: December 24, 2010, 12:25:29 PM »
Slim, that's good advice, and exactly what I'm doing. Both Doug Robinson and DW had suggested that early on, when I contacted them on rule clarifications.

Thanks for the advice!
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With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925

You can't make a race horse out of a pig. But if you work hard enough at it you can make a mighty fast pig. - Bob Akin

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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #56 on: December 24, 2010, 02:31:49 PM »
38flattie,
I see you using a quote from Bob Akin, " You can't make a race horse out of a pig. But if you work hard enough at it you can make a mighty fast pig. - Bob Akin"

Did you happen to know Bob,(R.I.P.) I worked for Interscope Racing back in 82-83 and Bob was one of our competitors. I think the quote refered to Bob's Porsche 935 that he had built by ? Klem (can't think of his first name!!!) 935s were basically a pig but as Bob says if you work hard enough (and put enough money into them) you can make a might fast pig!

Love your build! Looking forward to see you at the salt.

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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #57 on: December 24, 2010, 05:35:22 PM »
Looking good 38flattie and team!

 You guys inspired me to seek out some help, yup another HAMB derived team! 6inarow my good buddy Tom from the wrong end of the state jumped in with all his 6 banger knowlege and paddock of motors! 8-)
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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #58 on: December 25, 2010, 08:55:50 AM »
Rex, I never met Mr Akin. I'm not sure where I saw the quote, but it seemed appropriate, since a '38 Chevy is pretty much a pig. So, it seems the most we can hope for is a fast pig! :evil:

Merry Christmas everyone!
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With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925

You can't make a race horse out of a pig. But if you work hard enough at it you can make a mighty fast pig. - Bob Akin

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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #59 on: December 27, 2010, 12:24:10 PM »
 Beauty chop and cage?  How much is a 'beauty chop'? I hope you can post pictures of it every step of the way. The reason I'm so interested is,,,,,I've chopped four 37-38 coupes and never liked the results. And it may be that I feel the shape is perfect as is?
 I think I also read that you are getting help from all over the country,,,, It would be nice if the guy building your cage would have the opportunity to glue it in while the roof is off. That way it can be built as large as possible(more room for you) and the welder can get good penetration ALL the way around the tube.
  Please post lots of pics.

    Good Luck,   RICK
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