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Offline Pete1

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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #1770 on: May 24, 2013, 08:08:02 PM »
Buddy,
I think aero is going to achieve a lot more than you think.  I would be cautious with the increase in HP until you see how much you gain with the body changes.  There's always next year -- if you don't blow the motor.
Tom

You guys talk like a bunch of dimwits...You build them to race, not to idle around and save it for next year.
If you build them right they don't blow.

  Your superior knowledge is greatly needed for all those ''dimwits'' in Top Fuel :roll:

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Need I remind you, I had one of if not THE first top fuel dragster in 1951.

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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #1771 on: May 24, 2013, 09:03:04 PM »


Need I remind you, I had one of if not THE first top fuel dragster in 1951.

Pete,
Thank you for that reminder - - I had forgotten.  Then, again, I was only 4 years old at that time and probably quite dimwitted! :-D

But seriously, I am impressed that you were racing fuel dragsters at that time, and I assure you there's no hard feelings.  And I continue to be impressed with the scope of knowledge presented on this forum.
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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #1772 on: May 24, 2013, 09:12:51 PM »
dim witted like a fox.......... :-D
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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #1773 on: May 25, 2013, 08:34:49 PM »
Forget the fiberglass...............

Go in business making those dropped axles and the entire "gotta have one of those" streeters will buy one.


FREUD

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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #1774 on: May 25, 2013, 08:39:48 PM »
Buddy , you are out of control , what an amazing effort. I will do my best for you on dyno day. I would hate to be the guy that sinks this ship. You are doing everything right , cyl pressure will double from straight alky to just 20% with a blower. We will feed it right , plenty of fuel.

Yo John - can't wait to see you again and see what the beast will do!  Buddy and I were chatting this evening -- the biggest challenge will probably be keeping Buddy from pouring the frickin can to it!

I'm busy plumbing the down-nozzles and setting up a new ignition system.   We're going to make it 'easy' to switch between our high-amp Vertex magneto and a MSD engine management setup.   I'll have both setups for the dyno - so we should be good to go.
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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #1775 on: May 26, 2013, 09:53:00 AM »
the biggest challenge will probably be keeping Buddy from pouring the frickin can to it!

Tip the Can! Tip the can! 800HP, baby! :evil:
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925

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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #1776 on: May 26, 2013, 10:52:59 PM »
the biggest challenge will probably be keeping Buddy from pouring the frickin can to it!

Tip the Can! Tip the can! 800HP, baby! :evil:

Back up on the can and add a bit of picric acid.
Be the only one on the salt running purple fuel.

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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #1777 on: May 27, 2013, 12:43:42 AM »
can't wait to hear this pig run!!!........................ :-o
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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #1778 on: June 01, 2013, 07:28:26 PM »
Aero work is done!

Hopefully, we can get WZ JUNK to post you up some fresh pics and info! John, I can't begin to thank you enough for what you have done! :cheers:

Engine and parts are now in Ohio, so Dale will be next up with the engine assembly and changes, such as piston oilers and roller cam!

Randy will be posting up some mechanical changes and paint work!
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925

You can't make a race horse out of a pig. But if you work hard enough at it you can make a mighty fast pig. - Bob Akin

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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #1779 on: June 02, 2013, 09:09:24 PM »
Have been working on setting up a second set of injector nozzles - 'down nozzles' in the manifold.  We'll have a pop-off valve that will actuate at a certain fuel pressure to start feeding the down nozzles.  Having individual nozzles that spray into the port should help us get a consistent fuel distribution.  We'll still put 40% or so through the hat injector (to cool the blower, etc).

Anyway - here are some pictures of all the dang stainless lines I made to plumb this crap in.   Takes a lot more time than one plans - even when you have the right tubing tools! 

Will be posting a lot of engine assembly stuff in the next couple weeks - the 'torch has now been passed to Ohio' . . . time to haul butt and get it done!

We're all thrashing like mad- trying to get everything done, make the dyno, get all are parts from all over the USA in the right spots, etc..   Then there is that dang 'work thing' that gets in the way!   :-(

Here are some pictures of the lines - no biggie, just takes a lot longer to make than one thinks.

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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #1780 on: June 02, 2013, 09:25:30 PM »
All of the lines on Target 550 were first made with soft tubing and then duplicated with stainless.

You foto presentation is first class. The diary is excellent.

THANKS

FREUD
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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #1781 on: June 02, 2013, 09:29:18 PM »
All of the lines on Target 550 were first made with soft tubing and then duplicated with stainless.

You foto presentation is first class. The diary is excellent.

THANKS

FREUD

What I use is 3/32 gas welding rod - is nice and stiff and it fits inside the injector nozzles/fittings for alignment.   Then I just trim it to exact length (not inside the nozzles) and make the stainless stuff to match the patterns.   I use the same patterns on the left and right sides - just bend the one angle the opposite direction.   Works out pretty good!

Appreciate the comments as usual!
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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #1782 on: June 02, 2013, 11:04:28 PM »
Dale, it's looking good, my friend! You have a lot to do by July 1, but I know you're up to the task!


I have to give props to two guys that have been working their ass off!

Don, who has done an extreme amount of precision work, on the girdle, mains, lifter blocks, and lifters. Don, thank you sooo much-you're the best! :cheers:

John K, who has been equally busy, doing all of the aero work! John, words can never express my gratitude, but I'll try-THANKS!

From John:


The inside edges of the fenders have flanges made to fit the car. First the side of the car was masked off. Fiberglass was applied to the sides of the car and the fender was installed. Then the edges of the fenders were fiber glassed to the still wet fiber glass on the car. The fender was made to fit the car. Soft foam tape will be applied to the flange to seal the fender to the car.

 Randy just arrived to pick up the car.

 John
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925

You can't make a race horse out of a pig. But if you work hard enough at it you can make a mighty fast pig. - Bob Akin

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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #1783 on: June 03, 2013, 09:19:16 PM »
I'm in Kansas and Missouri for a week, so I stopped to see Randy (wrenchbender), and plan some work days with him. Randy had a car painter he wanted me to talk to, so we headed to Webb City.


I'm happy to announce that our car will have shiny new paint, and a new sponsor logo,to go with the new aero mods! Max at Liles Performance & Auto Body, Webb City, MO., has graciously agreed to sponsor the paint and body work!


Randy, thanks for the introduction! Max, THANK YOU very much, and welcome to FlatCad Racing! :cheers:
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925

You can't make a race horse out of a pig. But if you work hard enough at it you can make a mighty fast pig. - Bob Akin

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http://youtu.be/89rVb497_4c

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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #1784 on: June 04, 2013, 12:03:41 AM »
Buddy, The car is looking good.  Just a thought (I don't know if the rules allow it in your class), wouldn't it be better for aero if you closed the gap between the two fenders and ran the running boards and the add a vertical plate down from the boards to seal everything? I think I mentioned it before, but what about some tire scrubbers?  They do work long as you set them up at full droop on the suspension. Tony
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