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Offline LSR Mike

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Re: Aerodynamic Lift
« Reply #45 on: July 13, 2010, 03:21:23 PM »
I can assure you from personal experience that it doesn't take a protest to get called on a rules infraction when in impound. Right Dan?  :wink:

Nobody cares if your legal for class until you set a record, of course I think I would get a look or two if I entered my truck as a/BFS :-) Tech is just safety, remember? When you set a record the previous record holder just became the most interested scrutineer standing behind Dan in impound, then there is the look over you get after the backup run. At Bonneville of course.
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Re: Aerodynamic Lift
« Reply #46 on: July 13, 2010, 03:43:05 PM »
Many times I have seen the inspector say to the car owner " you understand that XXX is not legal for this class". Most times the owner will hot have known it or will say we are just testing or we are running for time only. Just to throw some shineola in the game. What if you run EM for points and stay just under the record with an illegal entry? Think it has been done?
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Re: Aerodynamic Lift
« Reply #47 on: July 13, 2010, 04:47:02 PM »
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Re: Aerodynamic Lift
« Reply #48 on: July 14, 2010, 04:19:37 PM »
Guys,  Do we need to start a cheater thread?  Out of all of the response from this post about aerodynamics there is a lot of talk about cheating and not much about the core topic.  I would like to talk aero on this thread and it would appear that one would think you guys are insinuating in some way that this car was intentionally built to cheat someone out of a record.  This is not the case so please take the comments to another thread and let’s get back on the main focus.
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Re: Aerodynamic Lift
« Reply #49 on: July 14, 2010, 04:45:55 PM »
I surely don't think he built that nice car to cheat.  I think he built it to go 200.  I just found it strange that he was given a record (who would turn one down?!), and yet was told his car was not in compliance, but so what.

I believe he once entered the car for SW in T.O. because he knew it wasn't right for Production.  An honest thing to do.

But, from what I learned from you, simply looking at an aero device the average person cannot predict its influence.  It's just strange that a race official declared it was not an advantage (when in fact, it may have actually been a hinderance).

Back to our regularly scheduled programming . . .

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Re: Aerodynamic Lift
« Reply #50 on: July 14, 2010, 07:17:20 PM »
Again....to clarify....no record captured, no hat given.  I entered in TO and was told to run in CT.  I don't want a hat, I don't need a hat; if I want a hat I'll have one made.  I just want to run 200 and go about my business; not looking to take someones record or ruffle feathers.  I build the cars I do for personal satisfaction, not as a business.  I run at Maxton, Loring and Bville for the same reason.  You guys have got to get that?!  Remember when you guys started doing lsr? Wasn't it for fun and excitement and the adrenaline rush?   :cheers:

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Re: Aerodynamic Lift
« Reply #51 on: July 14, 2010, 07:23:46 PM »
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Re: Aerodynamic Lift
« Reply #52 on: July 14, 2010, 07:37:39 PM »
G-Series,

I am a fan and I am glad to have seen and heard your car run.  I also understand what you are saying.

Nice info and progress at A2,  I am going there soon too...

Keep up the good work.

Are you going to Loring this Month ?

I hope to shakedown my new car there,,, it would be nice to get a Hat,, as I am so over budget on the build I can't afford a new hat,, LOL

See you at Loring or Maxton,

Charles
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Re: Aerodynamic Lift
« Reply #53 on: July 14, 2010, 07:48:59 PM »
hows this one  :?

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Re: Aerodynamic Lift
« Reply #54 on: July 14, 2010, 07:53:46 PM »
hows this one  :?

Tim,

That's a good picture,,, that big Mopar don't need no wing....  just a better Torque Converter !!!!

Are you guys going to Loring again?

Charles
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Re: Aerodynamic Lift
« Reply #55 on: July 14, 2010, 08:16:49 PM »
amen to that ,, you know that all donations will be welcome.

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Re: Aerodynamic Lift
« Reply #56 on: July 14, 2010, 08:47:24 PM »
Doing some front suspension changes, but should be ready for Loring.  Going to spectate at BVille this year, and go next year for the 40th anniversary of the Bobby Isaac K&K Daytona record runs.

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Re: Aerodynamic Lift
« Reply #57 on: July 15, 2010, 01:38:42 AM »
A2, this topic has generated a lot of controversy but it is worth it.  The info you have shown about your original topic, lift and the air dams, is helping me to figure out solutions to some problems.  These aero topics and posts are appreciated.   

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Re: Aerodynamic Lift
« Reply #58 on: July 15, 2010, 02:29:50 PM »
Please keep it up. I'm learning too.

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