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Offline Dreamweaver

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Re: Aerodynamic Lift
« Reply #30 on: July 12, 2010, 06:10:44 PM »
Here it goes again, the we vs them thing.

This car is running at Maxton not at ElMo or Bonneville.

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« Reply #31 on: July 12, 2010, 06:18:17 PM »
Ya but . . .

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« Reply #32 on: July 12, 2010, 06:53:12 PM »
I think over on BS.com it was stated that they where running at b'ville.
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« Reply #33 on: July 12, 2010, 09:42:20 PM »
Dreamweaver,

Is it a problem that I comment on a possible impound vehicle? A run at Maxon could lead to Bonneville, has happened before. Brian brings up the comments made on bs.com which I too read.

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Re: Aerodynamic Lift
« Reply #34 on: July 12, 2010, 11:07:37 PM »
Here it goes again, the we vs them thing.

This car is running at Maxton not at ElMo or Bonneville.

Are the rules that much different between the two associations on rear wings and spoilers?  It's not a pissing contest it's a rule interpretaion.  Is it legal in your association or is it illegal?  Can you run an illegal vehicle in a class as long as it doesn't break a record?  Just wondering out loud... :mrgreen:

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« Reply #35 on: July 12, 2010, 11:36:03 PM »
Circle Track is a class only run at Maxton, so in this case it should probably only matter to those that run in those ECTA events.

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Re: Aerodynamic Lift
« Reply #36 on: July 13, 2010, 09:49:25 AM »
Circle Track is a class only run at Maxton, so in this case it should probably only matter to those that run in those ECTA events.

Pete

PJ is correct,  also If in fact this car is to run at Bonneville, it will have to find another class or run time only as it has been pointed out SCTA/BNI does not have a circle track class. 

From what I understand they just want to run 200+ and are not concerned about class or records..
 just the accomplishment itself.   

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Re: Aerodynamic Lift
« Reply #37 on: July 13, 2010, 10:01:30 AM »
Dreamweaver,

Is it a problem that I comment on a possible impound vehicle? A run at Maxon could lead to Bonneville, has happened before. Brian brings up the comments made on bs.com which I too read.

DW

DW, not a problem and my comment wasn't directly addressed to you but rather the thread drift.

Seems he got the OK from the powers that be at Maxton to run in that class, I'm guessing that if/when he gets a record it would be up to his fellow competitors to protest the legality or not.

As to his running at a SCTA event, what class could he run besides TO? Thought Skittles were frowned on  :-D

It's not a car that ever was a production model as the winged cars were only made in 69 by Dodge and in 70 by Plymouth, to the best of my recollection.

bvillercr, "Can you run an illegal vehicle in a class as long as it doesn't break a record?" Didn't some successful racer once say "It isn't illegal until you get caught"?  :-D

Anyway, interesting use of the windtunnel to solve a problem.






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Re: Aerodynamic Lift
« Reply #38 on: July 13, 2010, 10:44:05 AM »
I can assure you from personal experience that it doesn't take a protest to get called on a rules infraction when in impound. Right Dan?  :wink:
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Re: Aerodynamic Lift
« Reply #39 on: July 13, 2010, 11:44:21 AM »
True Brian. As Mike LeFevers discovered I take my knowledge from many sources I read articles in magazines such as Hot Rod, I buy books on other racing venues not just LSR, one of my favorites is a book on cheating in NASCAR. I read many different website forums. It is amazing all the info we can accumulate this way which in turn helps us out in the impound.

Dreamweaver, Yes time only is an option. It appears that this is yet another car that was built as the qwner wished, not to our class structure.

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Re: Aerodynamic Lift
« Reply #40 on: July 13, 2010, 11:54:07 AM »
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I don't care if we're in Time Only or no class       ....In those immortal words: " I just want to go 200!
 
If you read back to reply #23, I’m pretty sure he stated that he just wants to run 200 even if it's Time Only.  I don't think he built the car to "cheat" a record...

You might want to visit www.71wingcars.com to see why he builds these "what if" cars that never made it into production. Pretty neat stuff there.
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Re: Aerodynamic Lift
« Reply #41 on: July 13, 2010, 11:56:59 AM »
A2 - I gleaned the same thing from this thread. I hope he meets his goals.

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Re: Aerodynamic Lift
« Reply #42 on: July 13, 2010, 01:11:53 PM »
 
  Weren't the Daytona and Talladega stock cars and wing cars turning laps close to or over 200 mph in 1970?
  If so straightaway speeds had to be well above 200 mph.
  Anybody remember?
  There is a winged car that runs at Bville and does real well but I can't remember the class or speed...230 or 240?

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« Reply #43 on: July 13, 2010, 02:09:15 PM »

 Just look it up on the internet :roll:

 1969 Dodge Daytona, Buddy Baker at Talladega March 24 1970  200.47 mph record held for 13 yrs and broken by 1 mph
 car had CD of 0.28 :-o

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« Reply #44 on: July 13, 2010, 02:27:41 PM »
That would be the Daytona Charger of L.Sicillo hold two records in 2  classes @ 237.373 in AA/CPRO, & 237.862 in A/CPRO. It's a good looking car and always runs well on the salt. Single wing element.
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