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Re: Twin Engine Panther from England
« Reply #45 on: June 13, 2010, 03:52:54 AM »
Jerry Magnuson has a "countershaft" setup that's used on the Vette kits (with Eaton blower).  It gets the blower belt to the other side, without having to reverse the rotation method. 



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Re: Twin Engine Panther from England
« Reply #46 on: June 13, 2010, 09:29:17 AM »
Eaton M24 might be suitable if you slow it down a bit.

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Re: Twin Engine Panther from England
« Reply #47 on: June 16, 2010, 01:13:33 AM »
Sumo and Lars, do you guys have any formulae to figure out the correct supercharger size for a bike?

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Re: Twin Engine Panther from England
« Reply #48 on: June 16, 2010, 02:09:06 AM »
Yes WW.

Here's one:


From an old book "Supercharging Cars and Motorcycles" by Maurice Brierly




...and I can highly recommend studying these brilliant pages
which also contains a formula for finding the right blower:
( note that there are several pages )

Supercharger Installation on Older Motorcycles

written by none other than Mr. "Panic" who posted right above you here.



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PS: Wobbly, please send me a PM stating your email address.
There's a file on this subject that I'd like to send you.
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Re: Twin Engine Panther from England
« Reply #49 on: June 16, 2010, 10:19:35 PM »
Thanks, Lars.  A PM is on its way.  I do not have the money to put on a blower now.  I am learning from these posts so I can do it right when the time comes.

The Norton blow up was not unusual and I saw it on BSA's and Triumphs, too.  One thing I learned a long time ago was to 1)  install new cylinder studs at rebuilds, 2) check the nut tightness often, and 3)  use the factory torque values.  Loose nuts or too much power can cause the problem you see. 

My old bikes and the ones I built never saw the salt, but they were raced.  It was common practice to check the cylinder nut torques between races.  This was done until I was sure all of the nuts would stay tight.  Imagining myself racing an old brit bike at Bonneville, I would check the nut tightness before a run down the salt and between runs, too.     

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Re: Twin Engine Panther from England
« Reply #50 on: June 17, 2010, 10:50:49 AM »
Attention Rex and everyone else:

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Re: Twin Engine Panther from England
« Reply #51 on: June 17, 2010, 11:21:31 AM »
Thanks, Lars. 

You're welcome !

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..... 1)  install new cylinder studs at rebuilds,...

Yes'Sir !
. I did just that





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Re: Twin Engine Panther from England
« Reply #52 on: June 18, 2010, 08:58:40 AM »
im not near as quick as chris - i dont do frame building...

just been doodling at work killing time before i drop that parts off with the frame builder next week - cant wait

rear frame geometry needs sorting but im leaving that to the experts

exhaust looks like it will prove a challenge with the supercharger positioning but im sure i can sort something with it, maybe just switch it to the other side of the bike, there are 2 exhaust ports to pick from [panther basically decided to try make the bike look a bit like the more fashionable twins of the time so they just added an extra exhaust port and ran an exhaust either side of the bike - why change an engine design eh??!, thing is - it only needs 1 to breath right, so at least it gives options]


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Re: Twin Engine Panther from England
« Reply #53 on: June 25, 2010, 01:11:51 PM »
Whats the Crack then dude any progress yet?
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Re: Twin Engine Panther from England
« Reply #54 on: June 25, 2010, 06:03:48 PM »
Progress is I drOpped all the bits off with briz the frame guy this morning. Looking at 3-4 weeks and I have a roller ready for me to do my thing with it. It's a long jaunt to Norfolk but I'm verry happy

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Re: Twin Engine Panther from England
« Reply #55 on: July 09, 2010, 02:59:18 PM »
got some progress pics today

im like a dog with 2 dicks - so chuffed how its coming together

briz has had a LOT of input on the frame and changed things around for me to make things better / stronger etc. also he has done me a lovely little sponsorship deal and is doing the frame out of chrome-moly at no extra cost




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Re: Twin Engine Panther from England
« Reply #56 on: July 09, 2010, 03:01:11 PM »
Nice frame jig, build looking good
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Re: Twin Engine Panther from England
« Reply #57 on: July 13, 2010, 01:51:51 PM »
Briz works from a small-ish purpose built workshop at the end of the garden, and has been building top class bikes for years & years, he's one clever bloke, and rarely advertises. Maybe one day he'll find time to finish his Daimler V8 hemi bike.
Sumo, isn't it a good feeling to see your ideas materialise, it's looking really good mate.
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Re: Twin Engine Panther from England
« Reply #58 on: July 13, 2010, 01:57:41 PM »
its great to see the frame coming together after the tribulations. and im 100% sure its with the right man now. i just cant wait to get my hands on it and start with the machine work mating the 2 engines / blower up.

getting the pics last week really re-lit the fire for the project. i was getting a bit jaded with the previous goings on.

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Re: Twin Engine Panther from England
« Reply #59 on: July 13, 2010, 03:40:20 PM »
and more progress today