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Offline John Noonan

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Scooter racing/time trials at El Mirage?
« on: June 01, 2010, 12:51:18 PM »


Willie,

Better get building...  :-D

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El Mirage Dry Lake
First Annual Motor Scooter World Land Speed Trials

    Sunday, November 21st 2010

    For Further Information Please Contact:
    Alan Spears
    (619) 852-6985
    alanspears@motorscooterlandspeedfederation.org

    General Information

    The Southern California Timing Association (SCTA) has been hosting land speed trials at El Mirage Dry Lake for more than 60 years. Their “Motorcycle Rules” requiring a minimum of 15” wheels preclude most motor scooters from participating.

    The American Motorcyclist Association (AMA) and BUB Racing host an annual motorcycle only world land speed event in late August at the Bonneville Salt Flat. We are working with Dennis Manning of BUB Racing to integrate motor-scooters into the 2011 AMA/BUB Bonneville program

    We are going to keep our first annual event extremely simple. We’re essentially running a “run what you brung” speed trial for scooters only. Scooters have two small wheels! We’re self-proclaiming this to be the First Annual Motor Scooter World Land Speed Trials, so if you set the highest speed in a particular class you will hold the “Motor Scooter World Land Speed Record” for that class.

    We’re not requiring more safety equipment on the lake bed than you use on the street. The aforementioned race organizations require Snell-approved full-coverage helmets, one-piece racing leathers, leather racing boots and leather gloves. Many of us ride on the street with half-pot Davida or DOT approved helmets, goggles, gloves and athletic shoes. If it’s good enough for the street, it’s good enough for El Mirage.

    So following this line of reasoning, you needn’t drill and safety-wire your crankcase drain-plug, replace your rubber valve-stems with metal ones, or wire up side and center-stands. To keep the playing field relatively level we ask that you use pump gas. You can add octane booster.

    We will not distinguish between 2-stroke and 4-stroke engines. Similarly there will be no distinction between carburetion and fuel injection. Scooters fitted with superchargers, blowers or turbos run in-class, but are designated "Turbo" and run separately from normally aspirated scooters. No Nitrous Oxide allowed. No “class-jumping”. The class you compete in is based on your scooter’s actual displacement.

    The classes for this first event are:

        50cc
        70cc
        100cc
           
        125cc
        150cc
        175cc
           
        200cc
        250cc
        400cc
           
        500cc
        650cc

    Scooters modified with Turbos will run in their own class for that displacement. Scooters equipped with sidecars will run in two classes: up to 250cc and 250cc and up.

    You are solely responsible for your own health and safety, and transportation to a hospital if you require emergency medical treatment. You must sign a written waiver before competing.

    We will run one scooter at a time over a measured half mile course marked by cones. We will designate a Radarperson and an Assistant Radarperson, both of whom will use new radar guns to record scooter speeds. Any discrepancy between recorded speeds shall be resolved by averaging the two recorded speeds. No appeals. No arguing with the radarpersons.
    Trophies

    Trophies will be awarded to persons attaining the highest top speed in each class. The records will stand until broken at the next annual event. No recorded speed at any other event affects the records established at the First Annual Motor Scooter World Land Speed Trials.

    Trophies for Scooter Land Speed Records will contain a “1st” place insert and be engraved thusly:
    125cc LAND SPEED RECORD - 1 PLACE
    MOTOR-SCOOTER INTERNATIONAL LAND-SPEED FEDERATION
    FIRST ANNUAL SCOOTER LAND SPEED TRIALS
    EL MIRAGE DRY LAKE, CA
    NOVEMBER 21st 2010

Offline ol38y

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Re: Scooter racing/time trials at El Mirage?
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2010, 01:58:03 PM »

   " You are solely responsible for your own health and safety, and transportation to a hospital if you require emergency medical treatment. "

I don't see this getting by the powers that be when issuing a permit.
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2014 El Mirage Dry Lake  1350 A-PG  172.651

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Re: Scooter racing/time trials at El Mirage?
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2010, 03:26:33 PM »
Larry, if you knew what Alan's normal day time job is.......I think he may well get the permit........plus of course he is a ex-sidecar roadracer..........and we all know what they are like...................................
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Scooter racing/time trials at El Mirage?
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2010, 03:50:59 PM »

An attorney...thats what we need on the lakebed, hopefully nothing happens because he might have to sue himself for damages.. :wink:






         

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Re: Scooter racing/time trials at El Mirage?
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2010, 06:57:58 PM »
My brother had a Cushman with a wheel on a stick, had a box for delivering news papers. Didn't corner worth a crap at least to the left. Sure hope a bunch of ding bats don't show up and screw up the lake bed.
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Re: Scooter racing/time trials at El Mirage?
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2010, 07:10:05 PM »
My brother had a Cushman with a wheel on a stick, had a box for delivering news papers. Didn't corner worth a crap at least to the left. Sure hope a bunch of ding bats don't show up and screw up the lake bed.

Amen....

Their "Race" is the weekend following the last Elmo of the year..

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Re: Scooter racing/time trials at El Mirage?
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2010, 07:43:48 PM »
 "We’re not requiring more safety equipment on the lake bed than you use on the street. The aforementioned race organizations require Snell-approved full-coverage helmets, one-piece racing leathers, leather racing boots and leather gloves. Many of us ride on the street with half-pot Davida or DOT approved helmets, goggles, gloves and athletic shoes. If it’s good enough for the street, it’s good enough for El Mirage".

Maybe it's just me.....but this seems scary.........

Not so sure I'd want to ride a 650cc Suzuki Burgman, on asphalt, at around 115 mph, with half-pot helmet and athletic shoes.....let alone at ELMO.

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Re: Scooter racing/time trials at El Mirage?
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2010, 07:52:52 PM »
Thats the good news. you don't have to. Nobody has to. They can wear full SCTA legal gear or just stay home. That's what I'll do. But it sounds like fun to me. Just the picture of me on a scooter would make most anyone smile

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Re: Scooter racing/time trials at El Mirage?
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2010, 08:02:13 PM »
well its gotta be safe a lawyer said so  :roll: good enough on the street with traction wait till the go ballz out on the dirt... i think im gonna go just to sell clean under ware.... my bet not a one of 'em goes 75mph
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Re: Scooter racing/time trials at El Mirage?
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2010, 08:24:18 PM »
"Thats the good news. you don't have to. Nobody has to. They can wear full SCTA legal gear or just stay home."

But because they can, someone (maybe many) will just wear the minimum. Sanctioning bodies have rules for a reason...to protect the dumb, the ignorant and those who just don't know any better.

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Re: Scooter racing/time trials at El Mirage?
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2010, 08:30:41 PM »
Hey Glen, why do you consider the people that will be racing their scooters "Ding Bats"....

What do you call the people that race bar-stools and skate-boards with V-twin power at Bonneville.....

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Re: Scooter racing/time trials at El Mirage?
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2010, 01:32:06 AM »
Final item on bucket list

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Re: Scooter racing/time trials at El Mirage?
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2010, 12:59:20 PM »
Kent,

I bet there will be scooters running faster than 75mph just not safely..

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Re: Scooter racing/time trials at El Mirage?
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2010, 04:09:58 PM »
650 with a turbo is ok.

But no NOS.

Is this next?
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Re: Scooter racing/time trials at El Mirage?
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2010, 12:17:10 PM »
Do you think they will have a trophy for the most lights and mirrors???????????? :-D
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