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Offline 116ciHemi

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Running a 1982 in Classic?
« on: April 17, 2010, 08:07:55 PM »
So, I have been looking at classes to run in, and I will probably end up running G/GRS for simplicity. However, the Escort fits every letter of the rules for the classic category with one exception: it was made in 1982, one year after the cutoff. The 1981 Escort was identical to the '82 except that in '82 they added the Ford logo to the grille and put slightly shorter gears in the 4 speed trans. Is there any way I could apply to run in f/cpro or f/cgalt if I could get a grille from a 1981 Escort? It is really just a golly gee whiz question than anything else.

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Re: Running a 1982 in Classic?
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2010, 09:11:26 PM »
1981 is the cutoff for classic. No matter how many modifications you make to a 1982 car it would still be a 1982 !

That is my take on it.

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Re: Running a 1982 in Classic?
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2010, 09:24:19 PM »
i think if you can prove with documentation that the core body design is the same you should be able to run it..... and hey, were talkn ECTA here.... i heard you could  run just about anything down there...
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Re: Running a 1982 in Classic?
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2010, 09:25:49 PM »
Cut the VIN off it, put the grille in, call it an '81.  You ain't done no one wrong.

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Re: Running a 1982 in Classic?
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2010, 10:32:54 PM »
"...coupes and sedans produced between 1928 and 1981..."  Some 1982 model-year vehicles were produced in 1981.  Your Ford should have a manufacture month/year on the tag on the door jam.

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Re: Running a 1982 in Classic?
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2010, 10:46:37 PM »
It was made in June of 1982. I don't have ideas any trying this anytime soon, I am mainly just bench racing. Running f/cgalt would probably allow me to not have to spend a a lot of money on the car, while still giving me an achieveable goal to shoot for. I couldn't even run in production since it has an engine swap. (taller deck height block)

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Re: Running a 1982 in Classic?
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2010, 05:00:10 AM »
Run in f/grs I think the record is 112.Or use a leaf blower an chase down an evo. :roll:
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Re: Running a 1982 in Classic?
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2010, 05:41:03 AM »
"...coupes and sedans produced between 1928 and 1981..."  Some 1982 model-year vehicles were produced in 1981.  Your Ford should have a manufacture month/year on the tag on the door jam.Mike

The operative word is "produced". If it doesn't fall within those dates then it is not a "classic".

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Re: Running a 1982 in Classic?
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2010, 01:06:46 PM »
Vehicles will include post-vintage cars such as the 1949-50 Ford and Mercury through the popular Muscle Car years of Camaros, Mustangs, and Chargers.

I fail to see where an Escort falls into muscle car territory.

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Re: Running a 1982 in Classic?
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2010, 01:14:53 PM »
I should say that an Escort doesn't fall into the "muscle car" definition -- although I do think I remember that a factory turbo Escort was available one or two years.  Still wasn't a Muscle Car -- but it wasn't without some redeeming features.

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Re: Running a 1982 in Classic?
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2010, 01:32:03 PM »
No problem, Walt is more than welcome.

Its been several minutes now and I still can't fit an Escort into a muscle car framework.

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Re: Running a 1982 in Classic?
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2010, 09:51:12 PM »

I fail to see where an Escort falls into muscle car territory.

DW

It's got a four speed and a hemi.  :-D

Like I said, this was more idle thinking than anything else. I have more room to play with in G/GRS, and I can try out more ideas there than I could in any classic category.

I do have one other question- Do the dates for the "classic" category ever move up? The normal age definition of of a classic (at least from what I have seen) is 25 years old (and, no I don't really condsider the Escort a "classic" in the normal sense of the term). Just a question.

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Re: Running a 1982 in Classic?
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2010, 10:21:36 PM »
They picked the '81-'82 break point to keep some bodys Camaro record safe. Or something like that. So the break shouldn't change.

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Re: Running a 1982 in Classic?
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2010, 10:23:51 PM »
Probly right, Rich -- but they let the Monzas in.

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Re: Running a 1982 in Classic?
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2010, 10:59:33 PM »
The classic category came about in the SCTA do the aero developments in production cars. In generial the cars built AFTER 1981 became more aerodynamic and the older cars were considered uncompetitive. This also led to fears of losing competitors due to there cars no longer being able to set records any longer. Other than that I'd run your "''81" Escort if I were you.

By the way Walt, I've heard some guys call their cars '92 when they were built in '82. It doesn't change the class you run in, no matter what other think.... it happens all the time. If the body / chassis is a long running one (say fox mustangs) there all the same car.

This could get interesting now..........
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