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Offline holdfastgreg

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Losing momentum - will probably not race this year
« on: April 14, 2010, 06:05:03 PM »
Well as always, life has a way of serving up the good with the bad; been making extremely slow progress on the home front.  I'm waiting to sand blast my engine pieces (was painted previously,) find a competent machinist who isn't going to Fiat up my jugs/head - for some reason no one likes the idea that my motorcycle is old and British, and finally I'm still hunting down front ends for the bike and figuring out the frame (need adjustable rear suspension - would prefer nitrogen and a disc front end.)  Did I mention I'm not building this all out of a small kitchen and bedroom in a downtown apartment (think no space!!!)

I guess this happens sometimes...

Offline Dean Los Angeles

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Re: Losing momentum - will probably not race this year
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2010, 07:01:48 PM »
I think more people fit under your description than you realize. Sinks were built to wash engines, right? That dresser is an engine stand, right? It always takes more time than you think it will.

You may not make the first race, or the second, but eventually you'll get it fired up, wipe the oil off the kitchen floor, and put it in the trailer and go.

If they made houses for men instead of women, we would have a one bedroom house with a seven car garage.
Well, it used to be Los Angeles . . . 50 miles north of Fresno now.
Just remember . . . It isn't life or death.
It's bigger than life or death! It's RACING.

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Re: Losing momentum - will probably not race this year
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2010, 07:04:47 PM »
You know, I look back at my build diary, and I had all these plans to be on the salt in August (2009?!?!), and it wasn't until today that I finally got my crankshaft back from the shop.
 
But I go through other build diaries and I see a lot of cars and bikes started, and then we never hear from them again.

The build diary thing is a double edged sword, but I encourage you to start one.  You make your public statement, and then you either do it, or you don't.  Plans change, but if you document your progress, you will be surprised at the encouragement you will receive, and it will give you a great opportunity to document for yourself the progress you HAVE made.  I have found that reviewing what I have gotten done in a public forum has inspired me to get my arse back out to the garage and get something else done, even if it's small.

Hotshue, the guy building the Bonneville Bugeye, wrote "Every screw has to be turned by somebody".  Take it one screw at a time, and while you may not be racing this year, you will eventually wake up one morning, put the bike on a trailer, and head out to Maxton, or Loring, or the Texas mile, or Bonneville, and you'll be glad you followed through.
   
Don't let the idea that you won't make it this year discourage you.  Get done what you can, purchase what you can afford when you can afford it, but keep the ball rolling.

One other thing – if you can't find somebody who can help you with a Brit bike on this forum, you're not studying it very closely.  It's not all Busas, Studes and Big Blocks.  A PM to any one of them would probably be returned with more information than you asked for.  That's been my experience.

I understand the discouragement, but don't lose sight of the end goal.  It's a worthy one.
 
Cheers, Mate.

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Well, I guess we're making a LOT of progress . . .  :roll:

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Re: Losing momentum - will probably not race this year
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2010, 07:16:42 PM »
I've put a couple of cars together over time and I think the one thing that kept me going was not worrying about finishing the whole car.  Divide the project into segments (chassis, body, suspension, engine, etc.).  And then when you finish one part you can sense and enjoy the success.  We know I'm not a great philosopher (or much else, either), but this apporach worked for me.

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Re: Losing momentum - will probably not race this year
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2010, 08:13:26 PM »
I'm more discouraged about not racing than I am about building things (hell all I own are motorcycles - I've got my riding fix but its not the same as being on a track or competing!!)  It is also a wee bit discouraging not being able to find a trust worthy machine shop in North Carolina without driving three hours....I've had my parts at two different shops that race prep Craftsman truck series motors and neither of them in the end felt comfortable to have old parts on their machines (in fear of messing it up and having to find me new stuff that might not exist.)

I've got a website I use for my updating, blogging and etc; the guy doing it should finally have it sorted it out soon.
Thanks for the encouragement guys, hopefully soon I can make some headway.

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Re: Losing momentum - will probably not race this year
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2010, 08:30:42 PM »
My best advise - call Todd Dross at Twin Jugs Racing.  He has connections with some of the best in the world.  He's in Fredricksburg, VA so it's a bit of a drive but not out of the question.

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Re: Losing momentum - will probably not race this year
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2010, 09:52:19 PM »
One thing nice about a motorcycle engine is that it's cheap to ship.  I actually bought a 948 cc Austin Healey Sprite block on e-bay, and it was shipped to me via US mail.   :-o

The poor girl in the office couldn't believe it. 

"So Chris, what's in the box?", she asked.

"An engine for my car", I replied . . .

It's a lot easier than trying to balance it on the seat of a motorcycle.

I know it's nice to talk face-to-face with the folks you're working with, but you can usually ferret out the the good guys from the dolts by chatting with people who have dealt with both.
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Well, I guess we're making a LOT of progress . . .  :roll:

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Re: Losing momentum - will probably not race this year
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2010, 10:15:25 PM »
You need to come down to Maxton with, or without, a ride next month.  There are several folks there running Brit bikes and few talking about building one.  There are usually Triumphs, BSA's and Nortons running and I wouldn't be shocked if you found someone within 60 miles to help you out.  If it makes you feel any better, I had similar problems finding shops interested in working on my Ninja ex500 as most focus on parallel twins.  Eventually I ended up working with a shop within 15 minutes of where I work and shipping the head and cams to vendors that worked with the old twin. 

One shop that I was pointed to that is closer to you is Lee's Performance in Charlotte.  Not sure how they feel about Brit bikes but they would have taken on the 500 if I wanted to go long distance.

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Re: Losing momentum - will probably not race this year
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2010, 11:12:38 PM »
You need to come down to Maxton with, or without, a ride next month.  There are several folks there running Brit bikes and few talking about building one.  There are usually Triumphs, BSA's and Nortons running and I wouldn't be shocked if you found someone within 60 miles to help you out.  If it makes you feel any better, I had similar problems finding shops interested in working on my Ninja ex500 as most focus on parallel twins.  Eventually I ended up working with a shop within 15 minutes of where I work and shipping the head and cams to vendors that worked with the old twin. 

One shop that I was pointed to that is closer to you is Lee's Performance in Charlotte.  Not sure how they feel about Brit bikes but they would have taken on the 500 if I wanted to go long distance.

I made a scheduling mistake with this past weekend - thought Maxton was this coming up weekend.  Regardless I got to tie up some lose ends on a few bikes for friends and got them riding into the sunset.  Will be there regardless and will probably end up volunteering as well.  Would love to find some people going to Bonnie and make it out there as well - been told to go and watch first before you race it.

I'd like to see what everyone else is running as far as vintage bikes are concerned.  I've got everything parts wise to rebuild the engine minus a new oil pump and ignition (might run stock for the break in period and than swap into a Morgo - which means i need to vent the cases)

Within the time frame of me posting this, my sand blaster died.  Guess I'll wont be bead blasting anything soon! 


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Re: Losing momentum - will probably not race this year
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2010, 12:22:15 AM »
Dan Stokes gave you wonderful advice.

You can trust Todd Dross: COMPLETELY.

Even if he doesn't do any work for you, ask and he shall answer.

If he isn't doing any English stuff, he will direct you to someone reliable.

BELIEVE ME.........

When it comes to build diarys, I have had some experience.  MARLO TREIT'S STREAMLINER in Landracing.com build diary's and

www.target550.com          pictures section.

I don't get much feedback but it's being done by a con sumate professional and he really doesn't need a lot of outside direction,

but you will be pleasantly surprised at the IMMEDIATE assistance u will receive following the stating of a problem or an

opinion regarding any equipment that you may need.  These readers are your very best friends. Give them a chance and

feed from the support they so willingly  extend to you.

Take the calendar off of the wall and replace it with a build list. As you mark off each item time will be standing still but you will be

accomplishing your desired goal.  When it's done you can replace the build iist with a Playboy Calendar.

It's cheaper to slobber on a Playboy Calendar than to buy  an extra set of cases because you hurried.

FREUD   

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Re: Losing momentum - will probably not race this year
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2010, 02:10:42 AM »
Greg, some of us have experience with the old Brit stuff and we can give advice. 

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Re: Losing momentum - will probably not race this year
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2010, 02:43:07 AM »
Greg, I know how you feel , I started my build march 'o6, after having a few ideas swimming around in my head for a while,,I did'nt get a timing slip until march '10 , and the bike only has ONE cylinder.
It's all here,,,,
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I would prefer to make horsepower, rather than buy, or hya it, regardless of the difficulties involved , as it would then be MINE

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Re: Losing momentum - will probably not race this year
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2010, 01:36:51 PM »
Thanks for the reply guys - gotten enough motivation back to try to fix my pressure pot so I can sand blast my case halves and get them measured out.  Still need to find a machine shop thats worth a damn (prefer not to send stuff out but I might have to.)

Anyone know where I can find a reliable set of BSA/TRI disc front end?  If not I'll continue running my Honda setup.

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Re: Losing momentum - will probably not race this year
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2010, 09:11:54 PM »
Greg, Do you know Rex Floyd in Rolesville, NC? I can't find his card right now, but I'm going to be at a shop that keeps them this weekend if I can't find him in the phone book. If it's old and Brit, Rex either has it or can get it and if there's a problem he's probably fixed one. Todd at Twin Jugs is still an incredible genius but Rex is right here.

I push a '05 Bonneville so you definitely won't be the slowest. Come on out and show 'em they can be fast.

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Re: Losing momentum - will probably not race this year
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2010, 09:20:09 PM »
Found it---Rex Floyd 919/630-5789
Specializing in Triumph, BSA, Norton, BMW & "Whatta-you-got?"
Tell him Ken sent you and he won't have any idea who you're talking about unless he sees me.