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Joe Timney
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Re: SFI 3A/20 or 3A/15 fire suit
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Reply #15 on:
March 15, 2010, 01:03:17 PM »
Charles,
Everyone should wear fireproof undies. I have seen people wear black nylon socks and BVD's and get burned from the elastic. Do you how the doctor removes the nylon & elastic??? OUCH!!!
Here are the specs for firesuits.
SFI Rating TPP Value Time to 2nd Degree Burn
3.2A/1 6 3 Seconds
3.2A/3 14 7 Seconds
3.2A/5 19 10 Seconds
3.2A/10 38 19 Seconds
3.2A/15 60 30 Seconds
3.2A/20 80 40 Seconds
How long would it take you to stop from 220 mph and get out of the car? How much longer does it take for Fire & Rescue to get to you???
I don't wear shoes, only boots because long ago I have the fire pants pull up off the shoe top exposing my fire socks about an inch while getting into my rear engined dragster. The motor let go & the fire came forward under the car around the floor and burned me...never again...funnycar boots only.
Those life lessons hurt.
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Joe Timney
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Johntsi
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Re: SFI 3A/20 or 3A/15 fire suit
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Reply #16 on:
March 15, 2010, 01:25:05 PM »
These suits don't look too bulky, not much I guess I can do about gloves or boots. Just moreso worried about the boots, the pedals on these cars are pretty dam close together and it seems it might trip me up. Guess its better than burning my legs off.
http://deist.com/nomex-deluxe-racing-suit-sfi-32a20-p-36.html
http://simpsonraceproducts.com/products/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=4_557&products_id=10225&sort=
they are a little more exspensive but if it makes my life any easier driving the car its worth it.
You guys reccomend 1pc over 2 pc?
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Johntsi
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Re: SFI 3A/20 or 3A/15 fire suit
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Reply #17 on:
March 15, 2010, 01:50:25 PM »
Did I read the rules wrong? I thought I needed 20 boots to go over 200, it is really just 15? If so I can just get these
http://simpsonraceproducts.com/products/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_554&products_id=9018
instead of these
http://simpsonraceproducts.com/products/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=4_584&products_id=2239
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LSR Mike
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Re: SFI 3A/20 or 3A/15 fire suit
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Reply #18 on:
March 15, 2010, 05:07:26 PM »
John, from the 2010 SCTA Rulebook
Blown Front Engine Cars over 175 (that would be you)
Suit SFI 3.2A/20
Boots SFI 3.3/15
Gloves SFI 3.3/15
Head Sock SFI 3.3
You must wear a Head Sock or Helmet Skirt
I prefer the helmet Skirt for Maxton. Not as hot as a Head Sock.
The Simpson shoes like like the way to go for you.
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Mike M.
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Re: SFI 3A/20 or 3A/15 fire suit
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Reply #19 on:
March 15, 2010, 05:14:33 PM »
John,
Stroud has Funny Car Boots as well (2 styles) ,,, not as "good looking" as Simpson, but they can save you 33% to 50% from what I saw on the price list.
Charles
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revolutionary
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Re: SFI 3A/20 or 3A/15 fire suit
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Reply #20 on:
March 29, 2010, 09:18:28 AM »
Is the SCTA/ECTA going to ban Impact suits/equipment along with the rest of the world?
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White Monster
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Re: SFI 3A/20 or 3A/15 fire suit
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Reply #21 on:
March 29, 2010, 10:26:06 AM »
Daryl,
Not sure that the world has banned Impact products ... it is really a legal issue regarding counterfeit SFI conformance labels. The SFI announcement states;
Under the Contracts of Participation between SFI and Impact, SFI conformance labels and patches may only be obtained from SFI and no other source. Evidence shows that Impact had counterfeit SFI labels and patches made in Asia and then affixed them to Impact products it distributed to members of the racing community. To SFI's knowledge, Impact never advised its customers that its products contained phony SFI labels and patches. Impact never advised SFI of its systematic and longstanding practice of counterfeiting and distributing SFI patches and labeling.
Impact has been directed to cease and desist from this practice. SFI has directed Impact to immediately notify all affected customers to remove the counterfeit labeling and to offer the affected customers a full refund of the purchase price. SFI is requesting that all counterfeit conformance labels removed from Impact products be sent to SFI.
SFI has elected not to decertify these products immediately in order to minimize the potential hardships to members of the racing community that have been brought about by Impact's counterfeiting activities.
SFI has also elected to terminate all Contracts of Participation with Impact Racing effective 90 days from March 24, 2010. Under the terms of the Contracts, either party may terminate the agreements without penalty upon 90 days notice. This means that Impact will no longer be able to participate in any SFI programs after this 90 day period.
SFI has taken these actions in the best interests of the safety and integrity of the racing community. This is in keeping with SFI's mission and purpose.
So in short, at least it should not affect the ECTA April meet.
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57 ranchwagon
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Re: SFI 3A/20 or 3A/15 fire suit
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Reply #22 on:
March 29, 2010, 07:19:07 PM »
I spoke with Joe Timney today about that very subject he said they were going to take a bit of a wait and see approach. The products are as safe as they ever were its just a licensing issue. Was told they will be fine for April. Don't know if I would buy any new Impact stuff until it gets worked out but no need to run out and replace items already purchased. That's my understanding but I'm not a official so if in doubt ask for yourself. Sam
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desotoman
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Re: SFI 3A/20 or 3A/15 fire suit
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Reply #23 on:
March 29, 2010, 07:58:38 PM »
You might want to read reply #6 under this post.
Tom G.
http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,7686.msg119626/topicseen.html#new
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57 ranchwagon
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Re: SFI 3A/20 or 3A/15 fire suit
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Reply #24 on:
March 29, 2010, 09:36:15 PM »
Desotoman I understand and feel that this is inexcusable from a manufacture I'm just trying to clarify for people that ECTA will still be accepting Impact gear at least for the April race in less than 2 week. Thanks for the update and should be interesting to see how this all plays out to say the least. Sam
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