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Offline Joe Timney

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Re: oil down
« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2010, 11:33:00 AM »
What would all of the competitors say if ECTA mandated engine diapers for bikes and cars...the ones I sell to the NHRA drivers start at $200 and go up from there. This would minimize the clean up time, if any. It would also reduce the chance of an oil fire as the oil would not be able to get to the headers as easy.

The answer I have received most often is: Hell No...it costs too much!!!
What does the list say???

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Re: oil down
« Reply #31 on: January 24, 2010, 02:40:10 PM »
I am not a fan of "Mandatory" when it comes to diapers.  I am 100% against fines or penalties for an "accident" if a Bike or Car does have an oil down,,, the owner/driver/rider  is surely going to have a bad day and a big dent in the wallet... no reason to add more insult to it,,, they sure did not plan for that to happen.

Over the last few years I can only remember 4 or 5 oil downs that shut the track down for more than 10 minutes.

I think our current system is working just fine.  We can always monitor the situation and revisit it in the future if it becomes a problem.

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Re: oil down
« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2010, 03:50:41 PM »
I have seen a few oil downs from1/2 to 1.25 long 1-2 hour clean ups .Most of the short oil downs are (street)/rookie cars.
As long as clean up support is there and there is not a rash of oil downs what we have works.I'm sure there is a better way.Not sure what would be cost efective,ie a drop shoot with a sweeper,burn it off.
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Re: oil down
« Reply #33 on: January 24, 2010, 04:55:34 PM »
dont worry i would never just show up with anything without going threw the proper channels.

 as for bringing speedy dry, i never leave home without it. my race trailer does double duty as my hunting camper, last year i had 2 gallons of cranburry juice fall out of the cabinet, by the time i arrived at the camp i had a nice 1/4 inch pink slushy threw the whole garage section, had to heat it up to defrost it, and then used the speedy dry to get it all soaked up. at least the camper smelled nice for the week of hunting! i cant say the same for me.

as i stated before i spend alot of time in the woods, so my mind does silly things sometimes, ok most of the time!

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Re: oil down
« Reply #34 on: January 24, 2010, 05:51:56 PM »
A couple of hundred for a diaper vs $700.00 each for Bonneville tires. I would opt for the diaper.
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Re: oil down
« Reply #35 on: January 24, 2010, 06:13:10 PM »
"...last year i had 2 gallons of cranburry juice fall out of the cabinet..."

Bummer, I guess you had to drink the Vodka straight.

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Re: oil down
« Reply #36 on: January 24, 2010, 09:14:56 PM »
ABSOLUTLY!
who would have guessed it would take so long to go so fast for such a short time?

2012 Wilmington mile
April meet,
p/pp-1350/4 record, 132.601mph

September meet,
p/pp-1350/4 record 139.915mph [bump]
p/pp-1650/4 record 142.364 mph
p/pp-2000/4 record 140.009 mph
p/pp-3000/4 record 144.511 mph

2013 Wilmington mile
July meet,
m/pg-1650/4 record 137.278
m/pg-2000/4 record 136.695

Sept meet,
p/pp-1350/4 record 141.1986 [bump]

2014  Wilmington mile
May meet
p/pp-1340/4 record 142.5855 [bump]

Offline White Monster

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Re: oil down
« Reply #37 on: January 25, 2010, 07:31:12 AM »
Don't you mean Absolute ?
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Re: oil down
« Reply #38 on: January 25, 2010, 12:14:23 PM »
prefer Svedka, but Absolute, WORKS JUST FINE!
who would have guessed it would take so long to go so fast for such a short time?

2012 Wilmington mile
April meet,
p/pp-1350/4 record, 132.601mph

September meet,
p/pp-1350/4 record 139.915mph [bump]
p/pp-1650/4 record 142.364 mph
p/pp-2000/4 record 140.009 mph
p/pp-3000/4 record 144.511 mph

2013 Wilmington mile
July meet,
m/pg-1650/4 record 137.278
m/pg-2000/4 record 136.695

Sept meet,
p/pp-1350/4 record 141.1986 [bump]

2014  Wilmington mile
May meet
p/pp-1340/4 record 142.5855 [bump]

Offline t russell

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Re: oil down
« Reply #39 on: January 25, 2010, 05:34:14 PM »
prefer Svedka, but Absolute, WORKS JUST FINE!
or free :-D
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Re: oil down
« Reply #40 on: January 25, 2010, 09:22:13 PM »
If I ever go 150 or more on a bike you can bet I'll be wearing a diaper with Absolut in reserve!
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Re: oil down
« Reply #41 on: January 25, 2010, 09:46:33 PM »
From a motorcycle point of view. I don't want oil on the track .But I really don't want it on mt tires. It will cost me at least 175 dollars to put an oil catch pan on my bike . But it is a self preservation kinda thing .
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Re: oil down
« Reply #42 on: January 26, 2010, 08:16:23 AM »
Two thoughts:
1) When at the start line during an oil down communication is not so great. I've been there for 45 minutes before, way in the back, when I finally walked around to say hey, what's the hold up & then been told oh we have an oil down & they're cleaning up. Maybe we need someone to ride the lines picking up shufflers & to better convey the situation. (don't bother stopping to pick me up :-P I'm just saying...  :-D )

2) I'd be interested in more information about these vehicle oil diapers. I don't think we're at a mandate stage but readily available information and sources as well as possibly moving towards "strongly encouraged" I think would be a good place to start especially to those pushing the limits. The first thing I want to know is potential risk vs protection.
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Re: oil down
« Reply #43 on: January 26, 2010, 08:49:51 AM »
 I was thinking of blowing a horn . Like a two toot signal that will alert everyone that there is an oil down . But Not be mistaken for a crash in any way.
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Re: oil down
« Reply #44 on: January 26, 2010, 09:28:45 AM »
I was thinking of blowing a horn . Like a two toot signal that will alert everyone that there is an oil down . But Not be mistaken for a crash in any way.


All it takes is one loud engine & we'll never hear the horn. That's why I suggested someone riding the line for notification & pick up. When the startline crew high tails it to the scene of the incident the rest of us are left standing around at the start line with no information. I speak from experience. There's been more then one time (several) that I should have been helping at the other end of the track but was left standing at the end of the staging lane with no information & no transportation.

I understand our startline gang is going to jump in & help but once a known oil down situation occurs it would be advantageous to recruit some folks that otherwise wouldn't be doing the shuffle to notify the start/staging line & pick up would be shuffle volunteers. (spectators, parents, those that can't be out in the heat but have a car & could transport folks...and once everyone is on site one or two could bring along some water. Y'all sure look hot & thirsty out there! :-P )

Just an observation from the other end of the track! :)
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