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Re: Joe Law
« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2009, 11:15:31 PM »
Everytime I hear stents mentioned my mind is cast back. 20 years ago I worked in a medical research institute here in Melbourne and we did a series of field trials with stents which were put in the carotid(neck)artery after it was inserted at the femoral (leg)artery of sheep.The stent is collapsed inside a fine canula(tube) which can be steered like one of those plumbing cameras , along the way they pump out some Xray medium and the image of branches in the vessels are seen on the Xray machine....in the leg, up the guts, through the heart into the carotid and then "pop" the stent would expand and they'd slowly pull the canula out.Six months later the sheep was sent to a higher power and the way in which the stent had "integrated" into the vessle was examined. The placement of the stents was done by a senior radiologist who was incredible to watch, he'd be mumbling to himself, saying "oh dear! , oh no!, oops", and giving the impression he had little idea what he was doing when really he was a complete artist and the whole process was absolutely amazing.

What really stood out about him was that he was a very polite and articulate ( no, not all surgeons are trust me), the very picture of culture and too quite a large man, six four sixteen stone.The single thing that makes me remember this with such clarity is that when there was just the three of us, and no-one else could hear he wheeled out some of the filthiest and most hilarious jokes I'd ever heard , in a voice one notch above a whisper....There would be a sign on the door. "Do not enter under any circumstances X-ray in use" we'd be suited up sterile with lead gowns .....people would look through the window and we'd be laughing so hard sometimes I thought I was going to vomit.........usually the jokes were preceded by a disclaimer..."you didn't hear this from me"....and him the whole time dead pan


Best wishes Joe, those things work, I've seen it.


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Re: Joe Law
« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2009, 10:36:20 AM »
...thanks for sharing that experience Goggles...

..many here have "stents"......

....Joe however did not, he had Coronary Artery Bypass Grafting....

..via and "off Pump"....approach.....but chest was cracked....general
anesthesia....etc.......new vein and or artery conduits were placed from
aorta to below the blockages on each bad coronary artery of heart.....

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Re: Joe Law
« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2009, 02:01:15 PM »
...thanks for sharing that experience Goggles...

..many here have "stents"......

....Joe however did not, he had Coronary Artery Bypass Grafting....

..via and "off Pump"....approach.....but chest was cracked....general
anesthesia....etc.......new vein and or artery conduits were placed from
aorta to below the blockages on each bad coronary artery of heart.....

So what are you...... some kind of medical guy?!  :-D


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Re: Joe Law
« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2009, 07:34:06 PM »
....Hope your doing great Joe Law.......!!!!

thanks Michael....i get the opportunity from time to
time to hang out during heart surgery......

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Re: Joe Law
« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2009, 08:40:20 AM »
During my first stent operation, I woke up too early and asked, " have you started yet", the Doctor said, "yes we have figured out your problem and are going to install a stent". I said, "can I see it?" He showed it to me, it looked like stainless steel and was about 3/16" in diameter and about 1/2" long. Then the lights went out, don't remember anything else, I don't think I was supposed to wake up that soon.

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Re: Joe Law
« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2009, 09:27:28 AM »
....many folks have misconceptions about "waking up to early".....

...many procedures.....such as stent placement........occur
in "cath lab"....a procedure room.....NOT an operating room....

and as such....its usually a "sedation" case....meaning NOT
general surgery where the intent is complete incapacitation....

with sedation cases.....the intent is that you will be calm
enough to tolerate the procedure comfortably and likely not
remember much....

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Re: Joe Law
« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2009, 09:58:00 AM »
I was awake for the entire stent installation procedure, even watched it on the same monitor the doctor and nurse did.

They wouldn't let me stay awake when they took my heart out and put it on the table next to me though... wish I would of at least got a video of that.

I'd like to be on the observer side of the table someday Joe,  and hope you always stay on that side as well.

Thanks for the updates on Joe L. and our best wishes continue with him,
Todd 

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Re: Joe Law
« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2009, 02:01:47 PM »
I was awake for the entire stent installation procedure, even watched it on the same monitor the doctor and nurse did.

They wouldn't let me stay awake when they took my heart out and put it on the table next to me though... wish I would of at least got a video of that.

I'd like to be on the observer side of the table someday Joe,  and hope you always stay on that side as well.

Thanks for the updates on Joe L. and our best wishes continue with him,
Todd 
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Re: Joe Law
« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2009, 02:12:14 PM »
44.......this is his second life...... :-D
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Re: Joe Law
« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2009, 09:20:02 AM »
That's awful young to have that kind of a problem.

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Re: Joe Law
« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2009, 08:48:59 PM »
Todd had too much healthy living...  :roll: ya gotta do a lot of drinkin and carousing to stay healthy into your 60s... stay away from those artery blocking veggies... alcohol is good for the brain and motor....  :roll:  :-D
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Re: Joe Law
« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2009, 10:05:02 PM »
I'll pick "D"... all the above, and then I'll take "Times I had fun in life and know it because I saw pictures of it and heard about it later in life" for $500 Alex.
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Wonder how Joe's doing about now? That little breathing apparatus with the ball in it went from me wanting to throw it against the wall to a contest between me and myself as well as anyone else willing to give it a shot. Hope he's pegging it out as soon as possible.
Todd

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Re: Joe Law
« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2009, 11:37:31 PM »
.........hmmm that would be the device you ......inhale as hard as you can .....and hold
it as long as you can.................

........uh......we will let folks decide for themselves
.what kind of "device" ........you utilitized......like that....
in your "past".........that you invited  "anyone willing"......to "give it a shot".....
......next thing your gonna say is that the doctor prescribed this...activity.... that
promoted coughing......

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Re: Joe Law
« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2009, 09:43:01 AM »
The doctor may not have perscribed that one, but he did teach me that water and ice cubes in it would reduce the coughing. 8-) 
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Re: Joe Law
« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2009, 10:49:19 AM »
.....hey.......could you bring that "inhale and hold"...device
to WOS.......

maybe some "central California" peoples could bring some
.."prescription"...stuff to make it work better.......and fix
all our ailments........

Joe