BUB Updates

[Rchop]

Kent, Scott says it's great to know even though he's 1000 miles away from your ass, he still has to deal with you!

[landracing]

I have good info that course is very wet - damp... I would be very suprised if the liners will make any hard passes due to the condition. And the fast siton turbo bikes will suffer alot of speed,. I would put money on it that if the course isn't perfect Sam wont chance any runs with the wet course and the aluminum front wheel. He is just that kind of guy.
I would also say if course isnt the best that Ack will step back and wait the couple weeks for a better course during the private meet.  The Ack crew learned about sub standard course in the past and I dont think he will make the same mistake twice.

thanks for the updates JonW.

JonAmo

[landracing]

I guess bike 1737 doesnt have to be within the rule of
 
"8.B. SEAT/ TAIL SECTION
Seat/tail section streamlining must meet the following criteria.
Streamlining must not extend beyond the rear edge of the rear tire
more than 8 inches. No streamlining beyond the rear axel is
permitted to be lower than the top rim of the rear wheel."

And bike number #228 must not have to run within the criteria of 2.I or rule 7.D

"2.I. NUMBER/CLASS IDENTIFICATION *
Motorcycle number and class identification on both sides of the
motorcycle are required for each entrant and must be of contrasting
colors to that of the motorcycle. Numbers must be reserved with
BUB Racing. Where used, number plates must be a minimum of
7” high and 8” wide and the numbers are to be 3” high and 1”
wide. Plates must have rounded corners. Numbers can be painted
directly on the motorcycle/ streamliner if number plates cannot be
attached and must meet same criteria for number plates for size
requirements. Numbers must be in full view and not blocked by the
rider when in the riding position. Numbers/class identification
must be changed on the motorcycle when a change in rider/class
occurs."

7.D. FENDERS
Front and rear fenders may be removed. Generic replacement type
fenders may be substituted and may not extend beyond the centerline of front or rear axle. Elongated seat may act as rear fender and is subject scrutineering."

Just an observation... They have had a history of allowing illegal bikes to run in classes in which they were illegal. Not trying to be a poor sport but rules are the rules.

JonAmo

[DahMurf]

1737? I'm not seeing it?   

[landracing]

Scott Stites went through tech and had to strip the Busa completely to run in the naked class, the front fender and rear tail section had to go. So far today, he has run 169mph on what he said is very wet salt. A lot of wheel spin, but 6mph over the current record! He is currently in impound and should be making a back-up run soon.

That sucks for Scott, I reread the rule for the AMA here.

7.G. OPEN CLASS *
Open class motorcycles do not permit streamlining. Streamlining is
anything that has the perceptible purpose of directing, controlling
or limiting the airflow around the motorcycle and/or rider, or are
placed to reduce aerodynamic drag (fenders excluded).



Maybe JonW can get by Scotts pits and find out what the heck to issue was.

[landracing]

1737? I'm not seeing it?   

NO STREAMLINING behind the Vetical line of axel, lower then top of the rear tire... The number plate is an aero device.

JonAmo

[willieworld]

good call ------------------------------------willie buchta

[Seldom Seen Slim]

WE caught up with Scott in impound.  Here're a few photos.   i'll go ask for details about just why he's got to farkle with the fender.  Drew Gatewood was standing there measuring the bike -- I didn't have the 'puter or would have asked then.

[Seldom Seen Slim]

Attn:  Guy Caputo!  This photo's for you:

[landracing]

Hey JonW find out if all four cylinders had to be measured??? Tell Scott congrats on the record and way to go.... Now by looks of the salt pickup on the front of the bike I would say its pretty damp out there.

Jon

[landracing]

Attn:  Guy Caputo!  This photo's for you:

Thats the Turbine bike that was out at World of speed I think two or three years ago... Fun Group of guys...  MIght have went in the 150 range, they hard tons of problems sucking in Salt to turbine... Curious to know what they might have done to fix that problem.

JonAmo

[Seldom Seen Slim]

Scott sez:

NO streamlining behind the rider in "naked" A or M -- so off came the tailsection.  I asked the inspector "What about a number plate back there?" and he invited me to protest the bike that's got one.  "No", I said, "I'm not racing here today."  So that's why the tail had to come off.  As for the front -- they wouldn't let him run the fender since it has skirts that protect the forks.  He's going to install the fender but first window the fork area -- slots in the skirts so the air can be assumed to go straight into the forks, not be deflected around it.  They were measuring all cylinders while I was there, by the way.

[landracing]

JonW excellent thanks for superb information.... AMA NAtional Records require the 4 cyclinders to be measured, however the WORLD RECORD FIM santioning body only requires two cylinders? Interesting..... Keep up the good work JonW, ill keep you busy

So now we know you can point out the illegal aspects of bikes in impound and they will let them go... Sweet...


JonAmo

[Kansas Bad Man]

I have good info that course is very wet - damp... I would be very suprised if the liners will make any hard passes due to the condition. And the fast siton turbo bikes will suffer alot of speed,. I would put money on it that if the course isn't perfect Sam wont chance any runs with the wet course and the aluminum front wheel. He is just that kind of guy.
I would also say if course isnt the best that Ack will step back and wait the couple weeks for a better course during the private meet.  The Ack crew learned about sub standard course in the past and I dont think he will make the same mistake twice.

thanks for the updates JonW.

JonAmo

Just talked to Max.  They've been waiting at the zero for a couple of hours due to the wind at 9 mph.  He said they wouldn't chance it today but would be out there early in the morning hopefully to make a run.    
 
Mike hadn't been planning to run at the Bub Meet, he was just going to be there with the liner.  

                                        Patti

[Seldom Seen Slim]

Tom Mellor is pitted just down from where Nancy and I are sitting.  He had just picked up the bike from a bump from the loading ramp -- dented the left lower front bodywork a tad.  Here're a few photos of the uninjured areas.  Look at that back tire!