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Re: V4 Dodge
« Reply #345 on: January 13, 2013, 10:22:09 AM »
Thanks!  We're really excited to help Rich get the Morton and Brett project going again!
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Re: V4 Dodge
« Reply #346 on: January 19, 2013, 03:55:32 PM »
That's great, Rich!

Pedro, that is uber-cool of you! :cheers:
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Re: V4 Dodge
« Reply #347 on: January 19, 2013, 06:21:03 PM »
I'm stoked to finally see Rich's car, and to see your team run.  Will Rich be there too, or just the car?

Chris
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Re: V4 Dodge
« Reply #348 on: January 19, 2013, 06:42:43 PM »
I don't expect to be there.

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Re: V4 Dodge
« Reply #349 on: January 19, 2013, 10:17:29 PM »
 :-o  whats up Rich :?
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Re: V4 Dodge
« Reply #350 on: January 20, 2013, 02:09:02 AM »
I won’t speak for Rich, and I’d love to meet him, but his prior posts indicate a preference for the less crowded events.

Rich, if you change your mind, I’ll be at Speedweek this year, and I would cherish the opportunity to meet up with you.

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Re: V4 Dodge
« Reply #351 on: January 20, 2013, 11:08:04 AM »
I am using up my medical insurance before Obama screws it up. 

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« Reply #352 on: January 20, 2013, 11:18:47 AM »
That's great, Rich!

Pedro, that is uber-cool of you! :cheers:

Thanks Buddy,

We're really stoked for the opportunity to work on this uber-rare vintage head, not to mention help Rich, Zenon and Bob (the owner of the head and a friend of ours) fulfill their dream of seeing the M&B run down the salt.  We'd obviously be crazy NOT to seize this opportunity to be a part of furthering Dodge banger history on the salt, as well as selfishly gain a free education on V4 Dodge motors.  Good information as we start designing our rule-bending hemi-headed Fast Four powered modern interpretation of a vintage belly tank for 2015. :-o

As far as Rich is concerned, I think it's safe to say that a lot enthusiasm for the poject went out of Rich when the crack was discovered.  He has a ton of time, energy, and money into this project.

We're honored that he thinks we're the right guys for the job.

 :cheers:  The Montana Dodge Boys
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Re: V4 Dodge
« Reply #353 on: January 20, 2013, 11:34:44 PM »
Rich we are all rooting for you!!!!  :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
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Re: V4 Dodge
« Reply #354 on: March 17, 2013, 11:45:00 AM »
Update ~

We brought the Morton and Brett head back to Montana in February.  We tanked it and pressure tested it and found that not only did the repair that Rich had done was still leaking, but 3 other leaks; two between old repairs in the valve area (where it looks like the rocker studs pulled), and some major porosity in the casting on the front of the head.  We are sending the head to a race shop that specializes in vintage engines to have the mjor crack welded, and the leaks repaired.  More updates as they become available.

In the mean time I've become obsessed with learning more about the Morton and Brett company since they were located just a few miles from where I grew up in Indy.  Their 'home' track was literally across the alley from my grandparents house.  Here's a good summary

http://www.coachbuilt.com/bui/m/morton_brett/morton_brett.htm

I also found this 1929 catalog on eBay...  for $135 yikes!

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2009 V4F/GR 116.439
2009 V4F/FR 117.597
2010 V4F/BSTR 127.352
2012 V4F/BFMR 130.843
2013 V4F/BGMR 142.956
2013 V4F/BFMR 143.254
2013 V4F/BGR 138.395
2013 V4F/BFR 138.984

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Re: V4 Dodge
« Reply #355 on: March 17, 2013, 03:46:36 PM »
It sure makes me feel inadequate when I'd like to support Rich.

I guess that's another reason to do it as young as you can.

Aging puts a lot of limitations on what we want to accomplish.

Love to ya, RICH.

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Re: V4 Dodge
« Reply #356 on: March 17, 2013, 03:50:36 PM »
My dad had a Fronty head on his hopped up 25' T in 33' , never knew the Chevy bros made them.

It was pretty trick in its day - drilled crank for oil pressure - Winfield carb - lowered with a 2 speed rear and Buffalo wires plus a driver controlled exhaust cut out for when you wanted to wake up some folks !!

My dad got tired of putting cranks in the thing becaure they were weak from the drilling, so he sold the car to my uncle Dick and he put the reg head and crank in it so he could drive it all the time.

Right before WW11 he was driving the Tommy Lee car and they had gone 148 mph on sat and ready to set a record on sunday and that was Dec. 7 so no record for Dick Nowell & Tommy Lee

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« Reply #357 on: March 17, 2013, 05:30:40 PM »
It sure makes me feel inadequate when I'd like to support Rich.

I guess that's another reason to do it as young as you can.

Aging puts a lot of limitations on what we want to accomplish.

Love to ya, RICH.

FREUD

We're still aiming to get the head on Rich's car for an excursion down the Salt.  I doubt it will be Speedweek, but possibly WOS or WF if the stars all align.  if not, 2014 for sure.  We are limited by time, the desire to not destroy an extremely rare piece, getting it repaired correctly, and MONEY.  This is not going to be an inexpensive undertaking.
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1928 Dodge Brothers Vintage Flathead Four Cylinder Roadster & Lakester

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2009 V4F/STR 115.681
2009 V4F/GR 116.439
2009 V4F/FR 117.597
2010 V4F/BSTR 127.352
2012 V4F/BFMR 130.843
2013 V4F/BGMR 142.956
2013 V4F/BFMR 143.254
2013 V4F/BGR 138.395
2013 V4F/BFR 138.984

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Re: V4 Dodge
« Reply #358 on: March 17, 2013, 05:44:08 PM »
It sure makes me feel inadequate when I'd like to support Rich.

I guess that's another reason to do it as young as you can.

Aging puts a lot of limitations on what we want to accomplish.

Love to ya, RICH.

FREUD
Thanks. I'm not dead yet. In fact I feel pretty good today. I appreciate the Montana Dodge Boys stepping in to finish this engine. They get things done. And that's what I believe it needs now. I was pretty young when I first went to Bonneville. Glad I did. I agree with FREUD. If you are making excesses or putting it off until next year. Don't wait. Go now.

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Re: V4 Dodge
« Reply #359 on: March 22, 2013, 01:08:14 AM »
I just want to thank all of you for chasing this dream. As a vintage engine freak this is so cool!