V4 Dodge

[RichFox]

I don't think and XXO or XXF engine is allowed OHC no matter what body class. I think DOHC is only allowed in V4/VOT. Single cam bangers are allowed see Roy Creels single stick Ford. I believe he has a one off head. I cut the Pontiac head in half because we were discussing Zenor's idea. The only way to know if you could bolt a plate in there was look. It's dumb to argue about something when you could just find out what's what. It's a learning experience. Maybe learning stuff of no importance. But learning anyway.

[V4F STR 60]

I seem to learn how much more I need to learn every day.

[zenndog]

Were we arguing Rich? I thought I was just pestering you.

Just to make certain everything is clear, according to my x-wife I am always wrong.

[Tman]

I think we are all thinking outloud about SIMILAR wild ideas but different classes and rules! Buddy, Rich,v4f and myself.


Buddy, Special construction is more open than Vintage classes from what I have learned. Besides, I am just doing some armchair engineering/speculation. I love to see stuff like Rich has come up with.

[RichFox]

Were we arguing Rich? I thought I was just pestering you.

Just to make certain everything is clear, according to my x-wife I am always wrong.

We were like two guys looking at a box that has a ball inside. One guy thinks it's a soccor ball. The other thinks its a Basket Ball. They could discuss this for years without resolving anything. Or they could open the box. That was my choice.

[zenndog]

So was it a soccer ball or a basket ball?

[V4F STR 60]

It was a baseball.  That's why I'm so confused.
 
More V4 updates at you convenience please.

Merry Christmas

[RichFox]

Disco

[Milwaukee Midget]

I think this is going into a roadster - he'll need all the balls he can get.   

[zenndog]

Rich, I guess I will see it in a week anyways but I have a question.

On the Pontiac head, what is that round hole/passage just above the center water jacket? It looks like it goes all the way down the head right below the rockers.

[Stan Back]

Just for clarification -- V4 engine rules are V4 engine rules no matter the category the engine is in.  Hence, a C motor is a C motor.

[RichFox]

Rich, I guess I will see it in a week anyways but I have a question.

On the Pontiac head, what is that round hole/passage just above the center water jacket? It looks like it goes all the way down the head right below the rockers.

Believe that is the air injection passage way for the exhaust reheat.

[zenndog]

Rich-that is what I thought, what feeds it, is it linked to the exhaust ports like the post 71 ford 351M/400 heads?

Stan- I think they are referring to this section which is a quote from the V4F/V4 rules

"For reasons of economy and historical authenticity, vintage engine modifications are restricted to
older technology levels, so far as is practical. Accordingly, in classes V4 and V4F, using
Vintage bodies:

1.  Turbochargers are not permitted;
2.  Computers are allowed for data collection purposes only;
3.  Electronic fuel injection prohibited;
4.  Any ignition system may be used.

This is a quote from the rule book that is in the recent SCTA publication "clarifying" V4F/V4 rules.

The part about "using vintage bodies" seems to imply special construction is not limited by the items listed below the paragraph.

Someone correct me if I am wrong but DOHC heads are allowed in V4?

Wasn't there a streamliner running a heavily modified Model T engine that was running in V4 and ran a turbocharger? It went 200+ I believe. Did it run V4 or just in class for displacement?

[Seldom Seen Slim]

Did the Vesco 'liner (#444) run a "T" motor this year at WoS or SpeedWeek?  They went quite fast for the engine if I remember.  Maybe after posting I'll go find the run sheets. . .

Later -- they ran a "D" motor at WoS -- Rhonnie at the helm, and a "B" motor at SpeedWeek.  Dang, I thought I remembered hearing the announcer tell us about the car running the vintage motor.  If someone knows the story -- please let us know, okay?

[Glen]

SSS. no vintage motor this year both meets were chevy's. One has a big window in it the others lived. No plans at this time to put the vintage 4 cyl in it as the is some crank work to  repair(we hope)