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Offline Papi

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MC Only: Safety Wire
« on: July 23, 2009, 01:07:42 AM »
So, as I begin the journey on prepping my Production 1650cc Class scooter, I have a couple questions about safety wire and tech inspections.

On my track bike, we safety wire everything that is critical, whether it needs it or not. I'm very safety nutty that way. However, after going through the 09 Rule book (SCTA), the safety wiring for Production is pretty minimal.

So, here are my questions:

- If you only do the minimum safety wiring, do you think it is enough?

Next

- If you go nutty on the safety wiring, will it cause some confusion during inspection, especially in Production?

I tend to err on being more sure than not when it comes to stuff like this, so I am prone to safety wire the LSR Bike as much, if not more than my track bike.

Your thoughts?

-Papi


 
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Re: MC Only: Safety Wire
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2009, 01:35:15 AM »
Papi,

Yes the rules regarding what needs to be safety wired are minimum however you can also do your oil filler cap, brake caliper bolts etc, the rules are the minimum, even on a production bike the rules allow after market chain guards, steering dampeners and tires to protect the rider.  So yes you can go all out and exceed the rules regarding safety wiring.


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Re: MC Only: Safety Wire
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2009, 10:12:55 AM »
Wire what you are comfortable with after complying with the minimums.... read the rules several more times...
rule compliance is not too tough, it is supposed to be fun, be safe, have fun, go fast...
See ya on the salt  8-)
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Re: MC Only: Safety Wire
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2009, 03:10:59 PM »
OK, perfect. I was hoping my over safety wiring would not hinder the inspection under Production.
Anyone else have added comments?

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Re: MC Only: Safety Wire
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2009, 03:27:24 PM »
On this note, the SCTA has a pretty strict requirement for the axle safety wiring. Both sides of the axle must have wire through them in addition to the pinch bolts. If the axle fits into a slot that prevents it from turning, like a 'Busa rear axle, then only the nut has to be wired. But on the front axle, both sides of the axle need wire in addition to the pinch bolts. It must not be possible for the axle to unscrew, even with the pinch bolts off.

I don't write the rules, I just enforce them. Sorta.


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Re: MC Only: Safety Wire
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2009, 03:35:03 PM »
Google.....safety wiring.  2nd one down has a lot of diagrams  and help on safety wiring. This is in the tech section as well.
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Re: MC Only: Safety Wire
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2009, 04:00:51 PM »
On this note, the SCTA has a pretty strict requirement for the axle safety wiring. Both sides of the axle must have wire through them in addition to the pinch bolts. If the axle fits into a slot that prevents it from turning, like a 'Busa rear axle, then only the nut has to be wired. But on the front axle, both sides of the axle need wire in addition to the pinch bolts. It must not be possible for the axle to unscrew, even with the pinch bolts off.

I take it you are refer. to Section 7.B.15 ?   Memorized it already :-D
And yes, all will be secured by those means.
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Re: MC Only: Safety Wire
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2009, 04:39:42 PM »
Since I inspect 10-20 bikes a month @ El Mirage and will have to look at who knows how many bikes at B'ville this year, I kinda have an idea on what to do.

What's funniest is when a bike inspector shows up at the meet & has forgotten to safety wire his own bike.




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Re: MC Only: Safety Wire
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2009, 04:52:26 PM »
Matt, neat web site.
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Re: MC Only: Safety Wire
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2009, 05:35:38 PM »
Thanks, Glen. Just some friends & I who like hot rods and such. Can't afford those shiny ones so we build them in our garages.... and sometimes in the dirt front yards.


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Re: MC Only: Safety Wire
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2009, 07:43:29 PM »
i agree Glen.........wow......

very cool website and culture there MattS.......

living life large.....way to go........

and thanks for your volunteerism...!!!

Joe Amo :)

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Re: MC Only: Safety Wire
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2009, 12:21:45 AM »
I'm trying to help out. I won't have a bike at B'ville this year because I'll be doing tech all week but I will bring my gear in case someone lets me go for my C license on their bike.....



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Re: MC Only: Safety Wire
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2009, 07:07:57 PM »
hey Matt
you did an awesome job at SW this year..... you were definitely one busy inspector....thanks for all your hard work...
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Re: MC Only: Safety Wire
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2009, 01:33:10 AM »
Ditto from me. :cheers: Matt

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Re: MC Only: Safety Wire
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2009, 02:18:40 AM »
1,650 cc scooter?  That's one big Vespa.  This will be interesting.