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Offline Freud

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Re: TREITS STREAMLINER
« Reply #870 on: September 23, 2011, 11:13:51 AM »
No idea Peter. It really won't have to remove much material but I have no idea what stuff it's made of.

I know they heat treated it.

I'll find out.  Thanks for asking.

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« Reply #871 on: September 23, 2011, 11:19:50 AM »
I didn't expect you to know Freud. Your expertise shows with the wonderful coverage on the build. The fact that you're willing to ask the questions and the builders are willing to answer them make this so much more valuable than the average build. Thanks for the work you do.

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« Reply #872 on: September 23, 2011, 11:53:36 AM »
Peter, Hume said that it is 4140 chromemoly.

It has been used and all's well. Thee wasn't very much material to remove and the tap did it's job.

Now there  are no worries about the cap galling and sticking at an inopportune time.

Wanna buy a tap?

Thanks for asking.


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« Reply #873 on: September 23, 2011, 12:19:20 PM »
  Dupont Krytox is a anti galling agent that looks like Crisco but is meant for precisly that problem........ stainless vs stainless.
  Have Jim give me a call if he can't find any.              Bob   (360) 696-1428
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« Reply #874 on: September 23, 2011, 01:32:32 PM »
Thanks for waiting.

This is a short post but the next one will have a lot in it.

There will be a small part that was modified to do the opposite job for which it was designed.

A unique problem developed with the oil tank and it was a machinists method of solving it that is on a par with the project.

Here is the url:   http://www.target550.com/gallery/132_knobs_knurls_kolor/index.html

There is a good chance that the next post will be on Saturday.

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« Last Edit: September 23, 2011, 02:04:56 PM by desotoman »
Asking questions is one's only way of getting answers. As a young boy I was always taught that there is no such thing as a stupid question. It suggests that the quest for knowledge includes failure, and that just because one person may know less than others they should not be afraid to ask rather than pretend they already know. In many cases multiple people may not know but are too afraid to ask the "stupid question"; the one who asks the question may in fact be doing a service to those around them.

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Re: TREITS STREAMLINER
« Reply #875 on: September 23, 2011, 01:40:25 PM »
  Dupont Krytox is a anti galling agent that looks like Crisco but is meant for precisly that problem........ stainless vs stainless.
  Have Jim give me a call if he can't find any.              Bob   (360) 696-1428

Bob,

Not picking on you really, but I think I read the cap was Anodized Aluminum, not Stainless. Will your stuff still work on those metals?

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Asking questions is one's only way of getting answers. As a young boy I was always taught that there is no such thing as a stupid question. It suggests that the quest for knowledge includes failure, and that just because one person may know less than others they should not be afraid to ask rather than pretend they already know. In many cases multiple people may not know but are too afraid to ask the "stupid question"; the one who asks the question may in fact be doing a service to those around them.

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« Reply #876 on: September 23, 2011, 04:08:23 PM »
Freud,
Looks to me that the belt tensioner screw should have some sort of locking device to keep it from un-screwing. Lots of tension and also vibration could cause it to back off.

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« Reply #877 on: September 23, 2011, 04:35:38 PM »
  Actually Tom, Krytox is Duponts name for various industrial material's.  
  I installed a lot of stainless exhaust ducting in the High Tech Industry, and they had to have cleanout section's that are removable.
  This was the only non-galling  material available (ten years ago) that didn't offgass which is pretty important in a cleanroom environment (GPL-206 is the catalog number for this product).
  I have used it on my alluminum master cylinder fill plugs and it work's just fine.
  Before I tried it on the fill plug cap's I Dodge near couldn't get them off.
  Punch in Krytox on Google and you can see all their products.
  They may have something even better....................  Bob
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Re: TREITS STREAMLINER
« Reply #878 on: September 23, 2011, 05:29:27 PM »
Freud,
Looks to me that the belt tensioner screw should have some sort of locking device to keep it from un-screwing. Lots of tension and also vibration could cause it to back off.

Rex

Rex, I would bet it will include a jam nut, they just finished making it and fit tested it is my guess.
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« Reply #879 on: September 23, 2011, 06:54:00 PM »
Rex,

I believe this is only a device to tension the belt via the idler pulley, not to hold the idler pulley in place. Holding the idler pulley in place once it has been given the right amount of tension is accomplished by a huge bolt that goes through the idler pulley and screws into this unit.

You have a valid point, and I am sure it will be discussed.

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« Reply #880 on: September 23, 2011, 10:29:30 PM »
Regarding stainless threads mating, I worked on a project which was for nuclear fuel recovery and everything was stainless and we had some maintenance spots where the operators had to un-screw some large fasteners that were under water and approx 20 feet from where they were stationed and they were looking through a window that was 6 foot thick and the powered wrench was hanging on a remotely operated crane, sound a little difficult?, any way the fasteners and the special nut that it threaded into were made from 440C stainless at 50 RC+ so they would gaul almost immediately. Bechtel was the A&E on the project and they told us to silver plate both the nut and screw and we never had problems again. It was "silver threads among the gauled"!!

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« Reply #881 on: September 23, 2011, 11:23:12 PM »
Rex, not only are your a learned person, an experienced worker and an interested spectator who keeps this project within the straight and narrow........you are also an

accomplished poet.

This simple problem is always out in the open and if we have a problem and start with KY Jelly, we may get it in.

I'll stop at Ace hardware and get some nuts. I don't have any control over them using them.

Maybe several more fotos will better show all of the way it is assembled. I'll take a look and see if I can't do a better job of showing the entire assembly.

THANKS AGAIN, Rex.

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« Reply #882 on: September 26, 2011, 02:32:03 PM »
  Hey Glen, on another post I found Jet Lube of Canada has every kind of anti-sieze in the world.
And they are located in Edmonton, Alberta.................  Les has been possibly sitting on your fix all the time...................  :-D     Bob
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« Reply #883 on: September 26, 2011, 03:05:01 PM »
I would be interested in hearing opinions on how the Target 550 drive train is going to survive when the single engine Speed Demon has had documented difficulties.
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« Reply #884 on: September 26, 2011, 03:28:55 PM »
I expect that the Speed Demon's trials and tribulations will be considered by the Target 550 build team - and so will other hassles that have cropped up on other vehicles.  I know that part of the SD troubles COULD be considered driver error -- such as blipping the throttle to make sure the engine is running smoothly before dropping the trans. into gear -- but before letting the engine come back down to (approx) the speed of the input of the trans.  Engine wound too fast = torn up drive train.  Or too much throttle when hitting a bump in the track.  But are these (and the others) really driver mistakes or are they part and parcel of racing?  Ian can write software to help alleviate the problems, but then there'd likely be more problems.

So - we can all learn from Speed Demon's "issues".  Thanks, George and Ron, for letting us watch you to get some learning.  Some stupendous thrills, too! :lol: :lol:
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