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Re: TREITS STREAMLINER
« Reply #495 on: January 01, 2011, 08:19:29 AM »
 Fabulous craftsmanship, cool technology, and a very well executed build
thread-Kudos, guys! :cheers:
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Re: TREITS STREAMLINER
« Reply #496 on: January 05, 2011, 12:20:29 PM »
When we quit posting daily on www.target550.com at the end of the year, Ray Therat must have had too much time to spare.

He redid the presentation of the thumbnail images and they look excellent. To change from one image to another, click on the

thumbnail on either side of the main image.

The first presentation for 2011 is in place.    

http://www.target550.com/gallery/86_plumbing_hoses_jfcracing_first_conference_2011/index.html

Besides images of the hoses related to the oil system we included a link to the company that made them.

www.jfcracing.com     is a racecar rebuild and restoration company. Their site represents them exceedingly well.

The hoses come from a need that they experienced and they solved it by putting in the equipment to make their

own hoses for their specific needs.  They are knockout and we appreciate their products and their excellent service.

So here's our first of many displays for 2011. I'd love it if the construction portion is completed this year.

FREUD

« Last Edit: January 05, 2011, 12:27:41 PM by Freud »
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Re: TREITS STREAMLINER
« Reply #497 on: January 05, 2011, 01:39:41 PM »
 :-D
Asking questions is one's only way of getting answers. As a young boy I was always taught that there is no such thing as a stupid question. It suggests that the quest for knowledge includes failure, and that just because one person may know less than others they should not be afraid to ask rather than pretend they already know. In many cases multiple people may not know but are too afraid to ask the "stupid question"; the one who asks the question may in fact be doing a service to those around them.

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Re: TREITS STREAMLINER
« Reply #498 on: January 05, 2011, 10:08:34 PM »
When I was at Hume's shop today the door opened and Frank Martinez walked in.

He was looking at some parts that need to be duplicated in composite material.

As the chat progressed Hume asked him if he knew a certain fellow.  Yep, he did.

Seems that Hume worked only several buildings away from Frank in the Valley,  a  l o n g  time ago.

There must have been something in the air that developed these craftsmen cause a lotta  them

just happened along in that era and that area.

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Re: TREITS STREAMLINER
« Reply #499 on: January 08, 2011, 02:34:03 PM »
New post today on www.target550.com.

It covers an alteration to  the water tanks, Jason and the rear panel finishing and Frank Martinez.

The url is :   http://www.target550.com/gallery/87_altered_water_tanks_heater_elements_composite_parts_panels/index.html

Enjoy.

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Re: TREITS STREAMLINER
« Reply #500 on: January 09, 2011, 10:06:16 AM »
Freud,
A comment on the tank heaters, it is acceptable to run the heater element in direct contact with water but I highly recommend that the element for the oil be in some sort of "well" which is typically a piece of tubing welded into the oil tank that the heater mounts into. Not knowing the watt density of the heater but assuming that it is high enough to heat the oil to operating temp relatively quickly so it is probably pretty high. What can happen is that the temperature of the heater right at its surface can be high enough to actually burn the oil and this will ruin the oils lubrication abilities. By using a well the same amount of energy is transmitted to the oil but over a larger area at a lower temp and you can prevent burning the oil. This is one reason that I prefer the external heating pads that can be wrapped around the outside of the reservoir.

Just my 2c.

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Re: TREITS STREAMLINER
« Reply #501 on: January 09, 2011, 01:23:16 PM »
REX, I always respect and appreciate your suggestions.

I'll forward this to Marlo and Hume.  It will be their call but I assure you, they will take it into their conversations.

This build has been ongoing for a longtime and things have changed. This principle has likely been known for longer

than the build, but if they decide it has merit the changes will be made to accommodate the sleeves.

It seemed to me as if the "oil warm time" , on the lakester,  was rather long and the quality of the oil was not compromised but I'll make

certain that they are advised.

Thanks for watching our backside.

Will I be able to meet you at the SCTA Awards Banquet?

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Re: TREITS STREAMLINER
« Reply #502 on: January 09, 2011, 01:52:16 PM »
It didn't take Marlo long to answer:

This was his reply:

Yes, you are right, the element cokes oil on it if the element is not treated and also we only run 600 watt heaters. 2 of them.  The heaters shown are water heaters and we do run them direct.  We also preheat the oil with a space heater if required time wise.  Yes, to heat 10 gallons takes a while and we do it until we get enough temp that the oil flow will not be a problem.  The smallest detail can be the most important.  I do not like to have the heater in a tube as the outside of the tube can also coke.  This way, we can pull the element when the oil is drained and look at it.  Two 600 watt oil specific heaters per tank.
Thanks for the eyeball.  We need it.
marlo

We appreciate the comments from the builders that follow this diary.

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Re: TREITS STREAMLINER
« Reply #503 on: January 14, 2011, 03:54:32 PM »
Some general questions. How many hours a day are the guys working? Days per week?

What are the total parts that will be composite? I have noted several through the diary and was wondering the total.

I would SURE like to see a web cam in the shop so that we can drool 24/7.
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Re: TREITS STREAMLINER
« Reply #504 on: January 14, 2011, 08:14:09 PM »
Yeah, a webcam would be wild. LSR Porn for car folk!

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Re: TREITS STREAMLINER
« Reply #505 on: January 14, 2011, 11:54:48 PM »
Dean the way I see it is that the front wheel fairings, now they are each in 3 pieces, and the rear fairings will be composite.

I know on the front that there is the piece in Frank's hand in the www.target550.com website, post 01-08-2011, image 087_007.

Then, as I remember, the piece behind the wheel will be two pieces. I suppose you may be able to answer your own question if u

go back far enough in one of the two build diaries.

In www.target550.com the post of 11-26-2010 has shots of the front fairing. Go to image 072_08 and you can see the split down the length

of the fairing. The two pieces attach to different parts of the car. One to the belly pan and the other to an outside  panel.

The rear fairings have not been designed yet so I can't comment on them. I can say that in www.target550.com the post of 09-10-2010, images 057_01

thru 057_07 shows the method that the rear fairings will be designed.

As soon as the front pieces are formed I will show them. There will be aluminum ones formed for the rear and they will be the male molds.

Jason has most of the rear panels finished. When they are ready to be attached the work on the rear fairings can start unless some

other portion takes priority. In the post for 01-15-2011 on www.target550.com I will show some detail information on the panels that cover the rear wheels.

Work is at a stand still on both sides until several small pieces come back from the anodizing shop. They will be riveted in place and then the panels can be finished.

In a week there are 12 man days of work unless the weather makes it difficult to get to Humes. Jason lives in eastern Washington and has to go

over 4300' Stevens Pass. Snow has no respect for the Treit/Davenport streamliner build schedule. Sometimes Jason gets to work a little late following

his weekend at home.

If you want to watch a webcam 24/7 go to www.phoebeallens.com. She built the nest and incubates the eggs all day every day.

Don't hold your breath for a web cam in Hume's shop. If they ever install one I'm done doing fotos. I want no one to see how inept I really am.

Thanks for following this project and thanks for asking realistic questions. We appreciate the interest.

There is a chance that we will have a question and answer session by the build crew of this car at the Bonneville NW Reunion, Friday night, Feb 18th at

the Shilo Inn, Portland Airport property.

Check www.bonnevillenwreunion.com for the activities.

FREUD






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Re: TREITS STREAMLINER
« Reply #506 on: January 15, 2011, 07:01:40 AM »
"If they ever install one I'm done doing fotos.  :cry:  I want no one to see how inept I really am'.  :-o

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Re: TREITS STREAMLINER
« Reply #507 on: January 15, 2011, 07:11:45 PM »
I finally got in gear and did the post that I hoped would be done Friday.

The Bonneville Northwest Banquet too my time and I screwed off on the post.

I finally sent it to Ray Therat and he had his part done in a blink.

Here is the url:         http://www.target550.com/gallery/88_inside_detail_of_body_panel_&_special_screws/index.html

I showed a lot about the inside structure of one of the skin panels and an expensive screw.

Thanks for your interest.

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Re: TREITS STREAMLINER
« Reply #508 on: January 18, 2011, 01:09:20 AM »
There will probably be a mid-week post this week.

The Rat has something hidden away and won't share it with me.

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Re: TREITS STREAMLINER
« Reply #509 on: January 19, 2011, 10:52:47 AM »
As Freud prophesied, I have a mid-week surprise.  Jason sent me some photos of "the master practicing his craft", that is, he shot photos of Freud while Doc was shooting photos of the liner.  Jason said he didn't get much co-operation, but I think Doc was just "in the zone," getting the great photos he provides so frequently. 

In this post, you'll get a look from the other side of the camera.  Btw, Doc has a new Nikon 700D that's just fantastic and has such a sensitive sensor that he hasn't had to use a flash at all.  He asked if it made me consider switching camps...from the Canonites to the Nikonians.  If I had unlimited funds, I might consider it...but since I don't...well, I'll stick to my guns (cannons...er...Canons)  But that Nikon sure does a great job...as does Freud.

I hope you enjoy a different look at things.
http://www.target550.com/gallery/89_freud_at_work/index.html

Ohh...as I wrote on the index page, there are no captions with the individual photos.  It has more to do with the size of the images than anything else, but I think they're pretty much self-explanatory.