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« Reply #1575 on: September 15, 2012, 12:17:20 PM »

Nothing wrong with your memory Freud. The shaper was always in operation 'cause it was kind of like me, slow and steady, plus it could be left to work on its own for rather long periods of time. I've always kind of wanted one for my shop but haven't come across the right deal.

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« Reply #1576 on: September 15, 2012, 12:22:14 PM »

Look out in Les' scrap pile.  He may have one.

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« Reply #1577 on: September 15, 2012, 05:58:35 PM »

Ummm... I'm a little embarrassed to admit... but I'm still using a Van Norman #1 Mill from the 1930's.  It has been converted to electricity... I'm quite fond of the old girl.   cheers



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« Reply #1578 on: September 15, 2012, 06:21:03 PM »

There's something warm and fuzzy about machinery like that. Fun!!!  grin grin grin

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« Reply #1579 on: September 15, 2012, 07:12:36 PM »

We had a Van Norman 777S boring bar. S stood for "sucker." It had a hollow quill and a

vacuum attachment that sucked the cast iron away from the tool bit. No mess when you

were boring a hole. As I recall it would bore from 2.60" up. That was so you could handle

a V-8 60. There was a micrometer tool that let you adjust the tool bit. Top of the line

for that time. Maybe circa 1946 to '48. The tool was sharpened on a wheel on the top of

the motor and a post that the tool carrier pivoted on to sharpen the bit. I think it was a

carbide bit and I know it had it's own lube to extend the life of the sharpening disc.

I wonder what my Mother did with it when my Dad died?

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« Reply #1580 on: September 15, 2012, 09:29:11 PM »

Freud:

What I liked about those old machines is...it seemed like the guy that designed it actually understood the daily use of the machine. They seem to design in some of the little things that eat time when you were trying to make a buck by reducing your actual labor versus billed labor. I guess CNC with tool changers are the ultimate upgrage because they did away with most of the human eliment. I am not smart enough to code CNC. I still crank handles and check with michcrometers and calipers. I am good as long as it is not too precision!

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« Reply #1581 on: September 16, 2012, 10:32:52 AM »

Ingenuity was needed with those old machines.

I have not run any of the new electronic marvels but it seems to me

that the ingenuity today is in the programing.

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« Reply #1582 on: September 16, 2012, 11:41:58 AM »

The shaper was invented in 1836. Water or hand powered for 50 years until electricity came around.
The best way to whittle that chunk of metal down to workable size. Handy for keyways, etc.

Today with carbide cutters you machine the excess.
How far has CNC taken us?

I have watched the genius of metal forming on the Target 550 car. Many thousands of hours.
The alternative is to spend a similar amount of time making a model, making a mold, and then body parts.

Or you can do what Ron Main did. Design the body on a CAD system. Turn that into a CNC program and machine the mold. Then take it to Burt Rutan's Scaled Composites and have a body made.
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« Reply #1583 on: September 16, 2012, 11:47:42 AM »

The only thing that matters is that you end up with the desired piece.

It's probably not important how it's accomplished.

Just look at women and bust sizes.

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« Reply #1584 on: September 16, 2012, 01:03:17 PM »

  Hey Glen, don't be "highjacking" this thread"!!!!                             
                                       Bob  rolleyes rolleyes grin
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« Reply #1585 on: September 16, 2012, 03:57:14 PM »

Freud,
There's GOT to be a 'video mode' on that fancy D-700 camera of yours...with sound.

When the liner is first fired-up....PLEASE use it and post it!   

;o)

Thanks.

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« Reply #1586 on: September 16, 2012, 08:20:03 PM »

JG..........mine is a D700 and it takes a D800 to do video.

My Panasonic "Spy Camera" can do video and it's quite good.

The biggest problem is that we are now in Palm Springs.

My telefoto on the Spy Camera won't reach to Bendover.

I'd do it were I there.

Thanks for the request.

I just reread your post. I assure you that if I am with the car the first

time it fires I'll have a video that will give the sights and sounds of

those engines running. I wish I could also provide the smells. These

are alcohol engines but maybe I can slip in 1% nitro or some degummed

Castor oil just for an olfactory experience.

I'll even use a video camera. A still camera would not do the experience justice.

The next time I go to Humes I'll see if the canopy lift cylinder has been tuned

and adjusted. Now that is a beautiful video. I have it before the windshield

was installed but I'll do it again when the "tune up" on that part is accomplished.

It is best described as a religious experience. I hope there are people that will allow

me to offer them an opportunity to experience and join the Church of the Canopy Erection.

Thanks for the suggestion.

FREUD

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« Reply #1587 on: September 17, 2012, 08:46:54 PM »

Rev. Freud:

Amen.
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« Reply #1588 on: September 20, 2012, 10:59:12 PM »

Check the description of the instrument panel tomorrow.

Get a close up of the bling.

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« Reply #1589 on: September 21, 2012, 10:31:48 AM »

I have to shut down now and have not listed the url for todays post.

Just go to www.target550.com and follow the link.

Ray's posting on Facebook will have the url.

ENJOY.

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