When is a motorcycle engine, not a motorcycle engine

[sockjohn]

 You might have noticed that Suzuki does not put the Busa engine in their cars.  Seems logical that they would.  

If I were tasked with putting an engine of that size into a car at Suzuki, I might start with the heads, pistons, rods, and crank, but nothing more.

The headache of no reverse and abusing a clutch and transmission not meant to propel the weight of a car isn't worth skipping making a new block.

BWDIK

I would think an Ecotech in a bike would only make sense if you were trying to run two motors in A class, but like most things in life there are trade offs with every decision.  I'm still waiting to see two Hayabusa's in a bike though.   

[sabat]

I'm still waiting to see two Hayabusa's in a bike though.   

You mean the Ack Attack streamliner?

[sockjohn]

I'm still waiting to see two Hayabusa's in a bike though.   

You mean the Ack Attack streamliner?

no, I meant sit on bike.   

Although I am pretty impressed with the Ack Attack!   

It's one of those things somebody is bound to do it eventually.

[Stainless1]

not sure why you would put 2 busa motors on a sit on.... most don't and can't use the power they are capable of solo.... unless you think about an old blown 1000.... now if a guy could get one of those to go fast.....  .......

Willie, sometimes you have to sit back and see the humor..... relax, you will get it.... 

[Dakzila]

Just so I understand correctly.

You can put a big block chevy, or a blown hemi or any other automotive engine in a two wheel streamliner with skids and it runs as a motorcycle?

It just ain't right.......

Buzz

[sabat]

Just so I understand correctly.

You can put a big block chevy, or a blown hemi or any other automotive engine in a two wheel streamliner with skids and it runs as a motorcycle?

It just ain't right.......

Buzz

No, you can't. But you can put a blown Busa motor in a roadster.


And who needs two motors to go fast on a sit-on bike? Ask Joe Amo

[fredvance]

Your pretty fast too.

  Fred

[joea]

......sockjon......do you really think two busa
motors will be any better than one..........?........

...most of those single busa motored bikes cant use
the hp they have now..........

(i guess stainless already covered that)....

.......also i guess you didnt see Mr. Bairsto's double 4 cylinder
suzuki motored sit on beast at SW...?......

there have been a few doubles........not sure if any of the
records still stand........

[sockjohn]

not sure why you would put 2 busa motors on a sit on.... most don't and can't use the power they are capable of solo....

And who needs two motors to go fast on a sit-on bike? Ask Joe Amo

Maybe I'm wrong, and maybe nobody will ever do it, but it seems like it makes some sense in my head.

You certainly don't need two, and two blown fuel busas would be more power than anybody and any tire could probably handle, but the records are pretty much wide open in the unlimited displacement category.

From what I've read and from talking to people, two motors is all sorts of headaches and hassles, but I could see  getting to 250+mph with two motors being easier than with one blown motor, and perhaps cheaper as well.  

I don't know, just think it would be kind of cool to see.  Maybe when I'm old and retired I'll rethink it again if nobody has done it yet.

[sockjohn]

.......also i guess you didnt see Mr. Bairsto's double 4 cylinder
suzuki motored sit on beast at SW...?......

there have been a few doubles........not sure if any of the
records still stand........

No, did not get to attend.  Do you happen to have any pics/links?

[fredvance]

Tom Elrod 3000 A/F 8/79 200.022 Two Kawi mtrs. Good old boy from Texas.

  Fred

[willieworld]

this is a great thread --- and no im not taking it to personal----i will try to explain something to everyone ---the motorcycle classes have 3 sections--the frame classes -  P,M,A,MPS,APS,SC,SCS and S.The engine classes there are BF, BG,F,G,P,PB,PB,PBG,PF,PG,PP,PV,UF,UG,VBF,VBG,VF,VG, and omega. Then we have engine displacement classes. Shown in Cu. Centimeters 50,100,125,175,250,350,500,650,750,1000,1350,1650,2000,3000 and 3001 and above. In P and M and MPS you can only run one engine. In A,APS,S,SC and SCS you can run two engines. Now here is the tricky part... Even though in the rulebook it lists  any record over 3001cc  is listed as unlimited, thats a mistake. It should be listed as 3001cc and above, and not unlimited. The unlimited class is an engine class and there are two classes, UG and UF, Unlimited gas and unlimited fuel. In Unlimited gas and unlimited fuel there are no engine size classes. You can run any reciprocating engine that uses the otto cycle, In streamliner class only. Super charged engines do not advance class. So yes, in unlimited gas and unlimited fuel you can run two big block chevys, with or without a blower in the streamliner class or two allison aircraft engines. That's 7.J.12 in the rulebook. Also in 7.D.4. It says you can run unlimited fuel and gas in the streamliner class, the sidecar class and the sidecar streamline class-----.george calloway
has a couple of rolls royce merlins for sale---anyway its nice to be back in touch with you all again hope to see you all in person soon    willie buchta

[John Noonan]

If anyone want's to buy a paragraph I see Willie is fresh out so keep lQQking..

Welcome back everyone.

John

[Dakzila]

Great explanation Willie, thanks.

Now if they would just open up a setup bike thrust class we could.......but that's another thread, isn't it?


Buzz

[McRat]

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OPPSS!!  This is about motorcycles!  Sorry!  Uh...

The Marines use a Diesel Motorcycle.  It's REALLY slow from what I gather.