BUB Trials

[bak189]

OK.....OK>........The last time I posted a heads up regarding the AMA/FIM rules......it went on and on.....
no need for that this time........if you don't like the rules...stay home.................................................
OK.....Just a reminder to READ the BUB rules carefully...........under Rule 1.I. It is noted that "scrutiniring
of engine displacement of ALL CYLINDERS is Required"........That means that Drew and his people will check ALL CYL. for record certification on all multiple cyl. engines...........I know that SCTA/BNI only checks one barrel, I don't know how it is done on the East Coast and/or in the Land of OZ.......so as I noted DO carefully read the BUB Rules...
Happy Racing..........

[landracing]

lets just hope they check the bike and make sure its legal for the class also... The extra time it takes to measure the cylinders they should spend going over the class requirements to make sure the bike is legal for the body...

JonAmo

Hopefully Ill be at BUB's this year.... making the 4 wheeler a two two wheeler...

[bak189]

Like I said.........if you don't like the rules......STAY HOME!!!!!!!!!!!

[landracing]

I have no problems with the rules.... Did I say I didn't???

JonAmo

[AHG]

Hello,
The AMA requires all cylinders be measured.
The F.I.M. requires one cylinder be measured.
Whether peoples thoughts are pro or con regarding these rules,
it is the way it stands for 2009.

"The extra time it takes to measure the cylinders they should spend going over the class requirements to make sure the bike is legal for the body..."

In regards to the above quote; I'm sure you know that technical inspection is at the beginning of the meet, and displacement checks (for the most part) happen towards the end.

Though I understand your concern, I will say that the tech. department will do their absolute best in assuring correct classifications be done, and that one job will not interfere or detract from the other.
Thank You

[Stainless Two]

Like I said.........if you don't like the rules......STAY HOME!!!!!!!!!!!

Oww...Cranky much?     

[bak189]

Thanks for the input, Drew.........................

[joea]

look.....this is an OPEN FORUM........

if you dont like the rules.....DONT POST....



when detailed pictures of DOZENS of illegal bikes shown
ON the course were sent in and verified as illegal by AMA...

and the ama response was..."we know they were illegal...but we are not
taking the records away.."...........

then you see a post about how rules are rules......then ya might have to
take a little heat.......on the current history of the event.........

with that said.......Im tickled pink that the AMA and Dennis have brought this
event to life......and

Im glad as heck they are doing the best they can, and pursuing making things better........

thats all we can ask........


Joe Amo

[landracing]

Drew,

its weird that the FIM only requires one cyclinder and AMA requires all four??? If a person were to set a FIM record (which is a world record) then would the AMA not allow the record to be put in their books because only one cyclinder was measured???  I mean you have to be a AMA member to set a world record for FIM.... It just seems weird to me...

For your sake I hope most all are going for FIM records then only one cylinder needs to get done...

Drew you have done an OUTSTANDING Job, I do appreciate all your hard work... You work a greuling task since there are alot of records set and I think you alone measure all the bikes.... 

JonAmo

[AHG]

Hello again,
Thank you for the compliment, but please note that there is good help each year
in assisting with the displacement checks.

Regarding the AMA and F.I.M. requirements, I can't speak on behalf of the
sanctioning bodies, because I am basically a hired hand.
I'm sure they have good reasoning behind their rules.

As far as having a grueling schedule, I think it's all fun from beginning to the end.
I figure that's what they make two Guinness and bed for at the end of the day.

Someone did however snap this picture of me (shown below) on the last day,
a couple years ago.

Yuk Yuk
See ya this fall

[Stainless Two]

No offense intended by my post, as said, was just a little shocked at the fervid, vigorous, energetic, vehement post, returned on such a subtle sounding reply to the original post...(see below)...i understand that others may adopt your thread,  and try to turn it into somethig you did not intend, but here we are...are we not?


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[bak189]

It seem that some of you people are taking great exception to my statement "if you don't like the rules stay home" ...........no need to get excited..........that is what we have done regarding BNI Speed Week
for the past 5 years, we do not like the "wheel on a stick" for non-streamliner sidecars rule.......so we stay home from Speed Week and race the BUB instead....they give us
 the option... passenger or not............
Prior to the BUB.......Yes, we raced BNI and raced a "wheel on a stick" sidecar.... they were the only game in town at that time and we set many records.......but now we have another Org. to race with.
Simple...."if you don't like the rules stay home"

[willieworld]

bob  im with you "if you dont like the rules stay home "  makes sense to me---if you set a record at the fim or ama is there a charge for a record cert. or is that included in your entry fee like the scta   thanks  willie buchta

[joea]

.......and if ya dont all like the governments rules......ya can leave right........?

OR you can celebrate the sanctioning bodies....government....etc AND
NOT SIT IDLE always......and participate in meaningful discourse.....that
just might facilitate truth...justice and the American way.......

"if you dont like the rules.....you DONT have to stay home....."


we have NO problem following the rules.....closely reading and interpreting
the rules.....and EXPECTING enforcement of the rules..........

good things can come from honest discourse.......

i have no problem trying to run both events and supporting both events....(got time
off for both this year finally).....

i also have no problem not being a "stick on a wheel".......

both events EVOLVE........due to racer input....



ps...no where on here did anyone say they didnt like the rules....

for me.....a chance to race is a chance to chase your dreams...

THANK YOU to those such as AMA...FIM...SCTA and all those involved with
these organizations that make it possible to have a venue for pursuing speed.....

[willieworld]

sheri and i race at 6 el mirage events a year (760 miles round trip 1 event)  we always go to speed week (1400 miles round trip)  and the world finals if we can afford it (1400 miles round trip ) thats 7300 miles at 10 miles per gallon towing we need 730 gallons of gas --730 gallens at 3 dollars per gallon thats 2190 dollars plus entry fees 1960 dollars  thats about all we can afford on social security--would love to go to the east coast and texas and bub but we are limited by our funds ---to put it in perspective thats almost 400 dollars a month--just a little less than my house payment---and all of the events we race we have the same rules that way we dont get confused             willie buchta