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« Reply #240 on: April 22, 2010, 12:27:44 PM »

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« Reply #241 on: April 22, 2010, 12:30:23 PM »

Gee, unh, mmm, I wonder if I'm being railroaded here. . .  I have NOT made final decisions on the Salt Talks t-shirts yet -- have just begun gathering some potential vehicle photos.  I will be happy to consider this bike.  Here's what I need:  First of all, as I've said, I try to use vehicles that've been built in diaries here on the Forum.  This one qualifies, right?  Second -- I need pretty good photos of the completed vehicle - if at all possible.  The artist on the other end wants good, high-resolution photos.  Showing all of the details - including lettering and class and sponsors or whatever -- is good.  Good lighting.  Good positioning -- no tail-end shots, and even angle shots aren't as good as broadside pictures, although a pic taken from front or rear quarter can yield more stuff for the artist to use.  Also -- the shirt art is usually showing vehicles grouped or clustered -- so they might not end up being broadside shots.  I would be tickled if I could get the art arranged so that it looks like the vehicles are all "parked" around the center of attraction (such as, in the old days, a drive-in restaurant) -- but in this case the center would be some Salt Talks logo and information.

But back to this bike -- yup, it's turning out quite tasty, and I'd like to see some good photos so I can give it a fair chance to beat out the other bike or two that I've already got on the drawing board.

There -- did I call that bluff or what?
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« Reply #242 on: April 26, 2010, 04:21:39 PM »

HOLY MAKEREL !

Guys and gal......what can I say !?
Thank you! thank you for your nomination !
I am overwhelmingly flattered and honoured
to the point of total embarrassment,
as you'd probably be more than slightly disappointed when hopefully
I get to the other side of the pond, and you get see it in real life.


This settles it;
I will go to SpeedWeek, as well as BUB, unless something
really really bad happens to keep me from going.


Better get the darn thing rolling:

Finished the tank-lettering
and added an extra line



...hell: how many in this country can actually justify putting that on their bike besides this one.
None
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The chest-rest 'pad' came back from the upholstery guy



I wouldn't go as far as calling the riding position 'comfortable',
but it's not bad...not bad at all,
except for one minor detail; my whole lower-body weight
rests on my...er....howcanIputit......reproductive organs, which is unreasonably painful.

So to alleviate the pain I tore the whole thing apart again,
cut a hole in the seat-pan



...and glued it all back together again bit by bit



...never tried this stuff before, so the result wasn't too pretty



...but who cares, when the up-side looks kind'a OK




...and now the position is acceptable for the short'ish 10 miles ride.
( Remember: at BUB you ride to, and back from, the 5 mile course )




Went to buy a BIG KN air-filter



...and while I was there I picked up a set of SPARCO Nomex underwear/socks/hood.
It's not mandatory for riding 'fuel' at BUB, but strongly recommended.
I'm not sure about the SCTA rules but I do believe I read somewhere that it IS mandatory in my class.

I wont inconvenience you with a picture of me in underwear
so here's just a pic of the burqa.

BUH !!!




I never reeeeally liked the front forks, which are off a nineties HD Sportster.
I'm afraid I bought them cause they were easy to install
and dirt-cheap.
Maybe not the best criteria for buying stuff for a LSR bike.

The forks waaaay too long. You can't see that from the latest pictures
as the springs have been removed.

At a friends workshop I stumbled across a nice old set of
Ceriani GP forks.
Much better. Much shorter.
I have a hard time persuading him to part with them, but he let me borrow them
to test them out, and even to eventually use them, if I can't find a set myself




So I'm in the market for a set of 35mm / length 675mm ( 26.5" ) Ceriani front forks.
A set of just the leg-assemblies will do nicely  



..as I can get the 'bridges' (upper and lower triple-tree) here.


Mmmmmmm: I guess this is what happens when one does not have a decent plan to begin with.
Same thing with the front wheel ( also from a Sportster ): I rebuild it,
I put in new bearings, I mounted new spokes and a new tire....then decided it was too big.
For now I intend to use the mid-seventies Honda Goldwing wheel presently on the bike.

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you learn
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« Reply #243 on: April 26, 2010, 05:15:28 PM »

octane   if you are going to run at an scta event your number plate will have to be ahead of the rear axle willie buchta
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« Reply #244 on: April 26, 2010, 07:49:24 PM »

Hello,
I have some bare N.O.S. 35mm Ceriani lower legs.
They are not the RR style though.
If interested, please send me an email to gears55@verizon.net
and I will email some photos.
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« Reply #245 on: April 26, 2010, 09:11:14 PM »



This settles it;
I will go to SpeedWeek,

We will see you at Salt Talks.  cheers
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« Reply #246 on: April 27, 2010, 12:43:29 AM »

Octane, do you have a steering damper on your new front end?
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« Reply #247 on: April 27, 2010, 01:39:19 PM »


We will see you at Salt Talks.  cheers


I certaintly hope so !


octane   if you are going to run at an scta event your number plate will have to be ahead of the rear axle willie buchta

Yeah I saw that when I checked the SCTA site to see if I could download the SCTA-rules on-line
like I can for the BUB event.
All I could find was some rule-changes, including something about the number plates for motorcycles and I also found
the Motorcycle Tech Inspection Form.
I ran through it; I seam to be within those things mentioned except this one:

".. functional front-brake ...[snip] ..required, unless class allows rear brake only.."

which I don't know.


I'm aware that I now will have to look into a whooooole new set of rules.
Am I right in assuming that the only way to get the SCTA motorcycle rules
is to buy a (paper-) rulebook ?

If so; time to join SCTA ( by applying for membership in one of the affiliated clubs..right ? )
and order a rule-book.

Maybe someone here, who is familiar with both set of rules, would be so kind as to
point out for me if my bike for some reason will not fit into the SCTA rules or class-system ?!

At BUB it will run the  650 A-VBF class
Max. 650cc ( the bike is 600cc) / Special construction frame (it's a one-off) / Vintage / Blown / Fuel

I have no idea if SCTA divide their classes the same way.

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« Reply #248 on: April 27, 2010, 01:42:45 PM »

Hello,
I have some bare N.O.S. 35mm Ceriani lower legs.
They are not the RR style though.
If interested, please send me an email to gears55@verizon.net
and I will email some photos.
Drew; thank you very much for your offer.
I'll have to check out a few details first and then get back to you.


Octane, do you have a steering damper on your new front end?

Nope, but I do have one that will fit right on



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« Reply #249 on: April 27, 2010, 02:23:28 PM »

Lars, you don't have to belong to a SCTA club to run at Bonneville. You do have to join BNI to run the event. Rule book and everything is included in the entry. To run at the DRY lakes it can be run as a guest but you can't get records or points without being a SCTA club member.
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« Reply #250 on: April 27, 2010, 04:32:33 PM »

We could send you a Indian factory narrowed 741 fork as fitted to all mile track machines competing in Class C competition? Not sure how it would compare to modern forks.
   
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« Reply #251 on: May 10, 2010, 01:46:08 PM »

Thanks Glen.
Joined the BNI. Rulebook etc. is on it's way cross the Atlantic.

Thanks Rocky
for you kind offer !!!, but I'll stick to the Ceriani.

Been kind'a busy here.
The list of to-do things is actually getting shorter day by day.
Now THAT'S something new.
Got this great feeling that perhaps I WILL finish this silly contraption in the near future.

Here's a few of the things I've been messing with:

Finished the gear-shift which until now had been more like a mock-up

It goes like this:

fork-thingy attached to gear-box-shifter-arm



and the top attaches to this cut-down ex-scooter brake lever



attached to rod running in two brass bushes inside tube that sits under the tank



and ..presto....gear-lever-knob close to left hand/handlebar





After messing around with several cardboard dummies



and measuring, and trail testing, and generally fooling around,
I made a chain guard



the welding didn't turn out TOO bad considering this is the second part
EVER in my life, that I've alu-welded

The finished result wasn't TOO pretty, but it'll work just fine




At some point I took a long hard look at the white exhausts
and just realized that they looks sort'a silly,
so I repainted them



and stuck them in the oven to cure the paint




Now that's much better ..ei??!



Also I've mounted a set of Tomeselli double-jointed clip-on so I can
adjust the position of the handlebars in any way I bloody please.
( On the pic they are mounted with a single-joint)



I haven't a clue why I haven't done it till now.

The front wheel as of now it 'stolen' from my BSA build,
cause during test-riding it's probably a good idea to be able to brake the darn thing
and I might need front brakes to run SCTA. ( I'll find out when the rule-book arrives.)
I recently rebuild it with new bearings and re-spoke'ed / re-laced it (?), etc.
and the tire is brand new.

It's a helluva good looking front wheel/brake don't you think ?!
Dual action double-sided Grimeca. Yummy!




Other small but equally important stuff:
the remote fuel-valve arrived from the UK



and I'm trying to figure where to mount it.

Need to have a couple of adaptors for the front-fork bearings made,
fab a battery box,
make a rear-wheel 'inner' fender
and an assortment of small stuff
and then get around to the big moment of getting the engine running
and probably say
 HELLOOOO
to an avalanche of new and interesting problems.....challenges.



I've been e-mailing with a guy in Washington state who is also in the process
of building a blown bike for LSR, and we agreed that sometimes when you
tend to loose confidence that you'll  e v e r  finish the bike, as you feel like you're getting nowhere,
is a brilliant idea to get out the BEFORE-pictures from a few months back



and compare them to the present state of the bike
and realize that in fact quite a few things have been accomplished



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« Reply #252 on: May 10, 2010, 06:06:19 PM »

Lars said
    "that sometimes when you
tend to loose confidence that you'll  e v e r  finish the bike, as you feel like you're getting nowhere,
is a brilliant idea to get out the BEFORE-pictures from a few months back"

Thanks for opening my eyes and letting me see pass the trees.
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« Reply #253 on: May 10, 2010, 08:43:05 PM »

Octane  you will not need a front brake--but you will have to move your number plate in front of the rear axle you will run in A- VBF or A- VBG  650 cc  in the 2010 rule book there are no records in either class   willie buchta
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« Reply #254 on: May 10, 2010, 10:37:05 PM »

AND....Remember Lars......the leathers that are legal for BUB (and every other M/C sanctioning org. in the world) will NOT be legal for BNI.........
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