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Re: Venable Rods and Racing - 53 Studebaker Build E/CGALT
« Reply #765 on: July 10, 2010, 06:38:35 PM »
Charles it happened to me once and the hydraulic T/O bearing went to far on the snout. We put a adjustable pedal stop on it to limit the throw. It's the stuff like this that drive you nuts. Hang in there my friend and it will all work out.
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Re: Venable Rods and Racing - 53 Studebaker Build E/CGALT
« Reply #766 on: July 10, 2010, 06:58:56 PM »
If the T/o bearing is stuck overtraveled, wouldn't the clutch stay in the disengaged position?  Car looks awesome!

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Re: Venable Rods and Racing - 53 Studebaker Build E/CGALT
« Reply #767 on: July 10, 2010, 09:31:52 PM »
If the T/o bearing is stuck overtraveled, wouldn't the clutch stay in the disengaged position?  Car looks awesome!

JD ,  that is what I would have thought... my clutch is engaged and the pedal is hard and feels like the cluth is not moving at all ???

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Re: Venable Rods and Racing - 53 Studebaker Build E/CGALT
« Reply #768 on: July 10, 2010, 10:14:42 PM »
too pretty to be a race car ... but I love it ... based on the Vicky it will run as good as it looks ... You done good Charles.

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Re: Venable Rods and Racing - 53 Studebaker Build E/CGALT
« Reply #769 on: July 11, 2010, 10:31:27 AM »
too pretty to be a race car ... but I love it ... based on the Vicky it will run as good as it looks ... You done good Charles.


Thanks  Joe,

I hope it runs just 1% better than it looks....

It is hard to imagine how it feels sitting inside and looking out the windshield.  Every expectation I had for the build has been met or exceeded.  The driver "cockpit" came out great,,, every thing I need to see or reach is well laid out and in my sight plane...   All we have to do now is work out that new clutch problem and install the drivers and passenger door windows and we are ready for test drive and then load for Loring.

I just acquired a Pace Daytona 44ft Gooseneck enclosed trailer,,,I will be rigging it out the next week or so.

See you in Loring.

Charles
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Re: Venable Rods and Racing - 53 Studebaker Build E/CGALT
« Reply #770 on: July 13, 2010, 04:47:11 PM »
Good news,,, after I cooled down and got a few good nights sleep Larry and I looked over the clutch sitution again.

It was a very minor problem and it is fixed now.  We had the clutch pedal travel wrong and we still had air in the line,, a few adjustments and re bleeding the system and all works fine.

Just a few more days and we are done....

I am so glad the clutch deal is resolved... having never used a hydraulic release bearing, I guess I just freaked when it did not work just right the first try.

More pics this weekend when we are done...

Charles
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Re: Venable Rods and Racing - 53 Studebaker Build E/CGALT
« Reply #771 on: July 13, 2010, 05:44:16 PM »
Do you have a stop on that pedal Charles? If you don't it's still worth doing as that's one of those things that can still bite you when you least need it.

That's good news that the problem's solved.

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Re: Venable Rods and Racing - 53 Studebaker Build E/CGALT
« Reply #772 on: July 13, 2010, 06:29:41 PM »
Do you have a stop on that pedal Charles? If you don't it's still worth doing as that's one of those things that can still bite you when you least need it.

That's good news that the problem's solved.

Pete

PJ,

The directions for the release bearing we are using (Quarter Master Race Floating)  says the travel is max .445

With full pedal travel now it is moving .440 (it was only moving .200 before,,,that was the problem)

Do I still need a pedal stop since I am getting no over travel on M/C piston at full pedal ?

Thanks

Charles

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Re: Venable Rods and Racing - 53 Studebaker Build E/CGALT
« Reply #773 on: July 13, 2010, 06:33:03 PM »
Why take a chance. I would do it. :-o
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Re: Venable Rods and Racing - 53 Studebaker Build E/CGALT
« Reply #774 on: July 13, 2010, 07:28:33 PM »
It's one of those things that will probably not bite you until the most critical possible moment, such as when you're making a return run for a record. A little air in the system or a little sticking later on in the week from salt corrosion and the problem will rear its ugly head, but only iff you're going for a record. :evil: :evil: :-D :-D

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Re: Venable Rods and Racing - 53 Studebaker Build E/CGALT
« Reply #775 on: July 13, 2010, 07:58:24 PM »
Yes you need a stop.  One time you will mix things up or get excited and stomp on the clutch thinking it's the brake.  Both feet as you push harder with out slowing down.  Then harder still...  on the clutch pedal instead of the brake pedal.  Bending things and braking things in the car as you coast to a stop 1 mile into the corn field.

Back at the shop you have a few days work.  I would make a pedal stop now and place it so the pedal pad hits it.  Don't go up the pedal near the pivot point.  Remember the lesson on levers in 5th grade!

Report on the first run please.  We are all glued to this thread as you near the end of the build!

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Re: Venable Rods and Racing - 53 Studebaker Build E/CGALT
« Reply #776 on: July 13, 2010, 08:58:32 PM »
Thanks, PJ, Glen and Geo...

I will fab up a pedal stop from the fire wall to the back side of the pedal pad.  I will have a double locking nut set up so I can adjust as needed,,, maybe 1" max adjustment.

It is so close now !!!!!!!

Charles
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Re: Venable Rods and Racing - 53 Studebaker Build E/CGALT
« Reply #777 on: July 14, 2010, 09:35:21 PM »
Pedal Stop installed, clutch working just fine. Seat belts adjusted (mmm left shoulder belt hurt my shingle area.. still in pain)

Windshield retainer tabs done, being powdercoated in morning then final install.

We need to finish drivers and passenger door windows (and NACA ducts)  then final check for test runs

All paint, graphics and lettering done (except for car number on drivers door)

here are todays pics










I am so ready for the test runs

Charles
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Re: Venable Rods and Racing - 53 Studebaker Build E/CGALT
« Reply #778 on: July 14, 2010, 09:52:48 PM »
That ride is going to be like the first date with a hot chick. Enjoy and be safe. :-)
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Re: Venable Rods and Racing - 53 Studebaker Build E/CGALT
« Reply #779 on: July 14, 2010, 10:24:46 PM »
That looks great Charles  :cheers: I can't wait to see it run!
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