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Offline TRNorBRN6001

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Maxton April 09
« on: November 06, 2008, 02:01:33 PM »
Curious what the conditions are like in April.

Rain?

Wind direction?

Average amount of runs (for regular folk)?


TFA might make an appearance.


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Re: Maxton April 09
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2008, 05:39:50 PM »
Curious what the conditions are like in April.

Rain?

Usually not

Wind direction?

Varies like usual. Head wind some of the meet tail wind at times but less often.


Average amount of runs (for regular folk)?


Depends mostly on weather. Last year I got two runs due to Saturday being rained out.

With good attendance and decent weather most can usually get about 8 runs in. More if you're diligent about being in line.

Remember this is the big car meet being the Hot Rod Magazine Top Speed Shootout. Presumably it will happen again next year although I haven't heard that as a fact. Compare it to the big bike meet in September where new folks show up with unproven cars needing to make necessary licensing runs. It seems to us bike folk that the cars run through on average a bit slower then the bikes but I don't know that it is actual fact.


TFA might make an appearance.


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Re: Maxton April 09
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2008, 07:49:27 PM »
I agree with Debbie, it would seem as if the average bike runs the mile faster than our average car speeds.

What we may not figure in however, is that many of the fast bikes also take the long shutdown and most cars use the short shutdown.

Just a guess but would be nice to see the "total run time"

Take 2 bikes that run 200 MPH and use long shutdown and add total time from first bike starting to last bike clearing long shutdown,,,then do the same with 2 cars running 150 MPH and using short shutdown,,,

I do not know the answer, but would guess the total time may be very very close, and would venture to say the cars may clear a few seconds sooner ???

Charles
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Re: Maxton April 09
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2008, 08:42:12 PM »
The biggest difference is that cars are responsible for the oil downs which shut the course for hours. The bottom end in the bikes seem to hold together better. There is considerable expense involved in running 5 meets a year and for the ECTA to be successful we need participation from both types of vehicles. When it is going well (which the norm) there are  40 runs in an hour. Deb can tell how many participants are the average and then do the math as to how many runs you can get.
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Re: Maxton April 09
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2008, 10:05:37 PM »
as for the weather it could be 70-80 degrees or snow.It is that unpredictable

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Re: Maxton April 09
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2008, 10:22:24 PM »
Snow!!!! too cool!  :mrgreen:

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Re: Maxton April 09
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2008, 10:23:28 PM »
DahMurf, can we place an order for a good tail wind and evening snow!  :cheers:

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Re: Maxton April 09
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2008, 08:50:55 PM »
I haven't seen snow in my 3 seasons, but it CAN vary from 35 to 80, temp-wise.  That's degrees F, for our Canadian and European brothers and sisters.  Dress in layers!

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Re: Maxton April 09
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2008, 09:16:59 AM »
Dan, if you haven't seen snow for a while -- here's a reminder of what it's like.  I took this shot of the wild cranberry tree that's just outside our back door -- two or three days ago.

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Re: Maxton April 09
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2008, 10:24:55 AM »
More cars take short shut down than bikes? I did not know that.
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Re: Maxton April 09
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2008, 10:55:18 AM »
Relaxedfit,

Not 100% for sure the ratio of bikes to cars that take the long shutdown,,, I was providing a math example for Two 200mph bike running back to back and taking long shut down vs two 150mph cars doing the same and using short shut down..

One thing I do know there "seems" to be a much higher % of bikes running over 175mph than cars, and certainly more 200mph + bike runs than 200mph car runs... Not a scientific conclusion, but it seems to me that the real go fast bikes tend to use long shutdown (not sure how many 200 mph runs use short shutdown, the bike guys could tell you)... But I would also venture to guess most cars at 150mph and below make short shutdown..

I think we have a good mix of bikes and cars and it all works very well... I just hope the 2009 season gets here quick and we have great weather, more attendance by racers and spectators and most of all have lots of fun and be safe....

Rock on LSR and ECTA... Let's all do our off season prep's and see you all in April...

Charles
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Re: Maxton April 09
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2008, 05:16:12 PM »
Lee Shierts used to use the short shutdown even when riding Rick Yancy's bike -- like when he made the 261 (or whatever it was) run.  In that case he went a hundred or so feet down the long shutdown, did a U-turn and drove it back to short shutdown exit and left the track.  I saw that one -- and guess it was his usual style of braking. 

I like using the long shutdown when on a fast bike -- although I probably could make the short if I tried really hard.  But since I haven't been running fast bikes very much recently - I prefer to go long for the sake of safer braking.  Sorry, folks, if I tie up the course for an extra few seconds now and then.
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Re: Maxton April 09
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2008, 06:30:13 PM »
SSS,

The way I see it, is once the starter sends you down course the entire course is yours until you clear whatever shutdown you choose,,,, Each Driver/Rider has the right to use whatever shutdown they can safely exit the course from. 

Charles
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Re: Maxton April 09
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2008, 07:27:45 PM »
You've got it exactly right, Charles.  I try to keep the others in line in my mind -- but safety and comfort of me, the rider on the course, does come first.  As I remember - the rookie orientation course drive-through includes the information that indeed, the course is yours when the starter sends you off -- but also -- don't use long shutdown if you don't have a good reason. 
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Re: Maxton April 09
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2008, 07:40:06 PM »
SSS,

I can only hope that sometime next year I am in fact fast enough to need and use the long shutdown...

I hope to move in the new shop Thanksgiving weekend... Then start disassembly of the Stude...

Replacement motor for theVicky is in the design phase now, the current Vicky motor will be upgraded (we found ways to get more HP ) and put in the Stude for 2009...unless Dan S steps up and makes me an offer for the E motor..lol
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