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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #6360 on: August 18, 2017, 12:25:40 PM »

And you think that is going to work with "Jack Yates Jr"? ! ? ! ?    :roll:


Ahh, yes.

Folks, this is in reference to a gentleman who didn't quite understand the implications of an oiling gallery, . . . hmm . . ., let's call it a self inflicted aneurysm.  

The telltale symptom of such an automotive subarachnoid hemorrhage is an accute headache.

It's a rare disease, in that the disease itself is not contagious per se, but anyone working on the patient, or even worse, dealing with the person with medical power of attorney over said patient, may develop the primary symptom.

But hey, at least the stroker crank fits!   :wink:  




Uhhhmmm, NO!!

And BTW, you forgot to list the other 2 telltale symptoms:

A/   ACUTE PAIN!!  in the subject's wallet area,

2/   Shortage of oxygen for EVERYONE ELSE, in the subject's immediate area . . . . . . . . .

 :dhorse: :dhorse: :dhorse: :dhorse: :dhorse: :dhorse: :dhorse: :dhorse: :dhorse: :dhorse:


Did I mention he went back to the stock stroke on that build?   So, super duper deep block notching was . . . . . superfluous . . . . . .

Just one of those "little details" . . . . . .   :roll:

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Dear Dr. Kindness,

I applaud your willingness to attempt to train sub-anthropoids.

Do not expect my help with your quest.

Please include the "orange sphincter" in your training class regimen.

Good Luck and Best Wishes!!

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #6361 on: August 19, 2017, 07:38:19 AM »
I need to catch up on some of your development!


I need to catch up on some of your development!
   So do I, Trent . . . So do I.

OK, to catch up on Thursday's decisions & developments:

Dimensions now fixed:
A/  Bore Ø             75.5 mm
2/  Stroke              55.5 mm
d/  Hd gasket bore  76.8 mm


Dimensions, etc nearly finalized:
B/  Deck height      ~201.5 mm
3/  Rod length        ~143.75 mm
e/  Piston C/height  ~30 mm
z/  Static C/R            13.5 to 14.0


I'll let you decide whether to share camshaft and valve train info.

 :cheers: :dhorse: :cheers:


I love the smell of math in the morning!!

Just so there is no confusion between me and "Jack Yates Jr." . . . . . . . . .

A/   Initial build dimensions:
       Bore Ø:      75.5 mm
       Stroke:      55.5 mm
       Capacity = 993.88 cc's


2/   First oversize build dimensions:
       Bore Ø:      75.75 mm
       Stroke:      55.5 mm
       Capacity = 1000.48 cc's


d/   Final legal oversize build dimensions:
       Bore Ø:      76.0 mm
       Stroke:      55.5 mm
       Capacity = 1007.09 cc's




So OK, I/GT is a nominal one liter class displacement.   From the SCTA Rule Book, 2014 edition, page 18:    (my latest copy)
Class I displacement allowed:   in cubic inches   46.00 to 61.99        in cc's   754 to 1,015        (calculated using the published formula:  ED = bore x bore x stroke x .7854 x numbers of cylinders) 


So the build dimensions meet not only the "spirit of the rules" but they also conform to the maximum permitted displacement defined by the SCTA Rule Book.


OK, why did I include this?   Because it is important to point out that it is essential to plan your build to take advantage of what the rules permit.   In spite of what I see every day in my consulting business, being at the "limit of the rules" is neither fortunate or "lucky" . . . . . . . . .  think about that for a minute.   Have you noticed that the guys with continued "success" seem to be "luckier" than other folks?    Anybody think that is an accident?    Or a "Hot Streak"?    DO NOT put yourself, and your build, at a disadvantage, because you did not want to take the time to plan things out in advance.

"Failing to plan is planning to fail."   B. Franklin    So, this is not a new idea . . . . . . . .   ( and my guess is Ben stole this quote from some Greek or moldy Babalonian philosopher . . . . . .  :-D )

I invite other racing professionals like Dynoroom, (thanks in advance Mike), and others, to add their thoughts about this idea to this thread.

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #6362 on: August 19, 2017, 11:03:16 AM »

Just so there is no confusion between me and "Jack Yates Jr." . . . . . . . . .


JYJ enterprises?  The inventor of the SBF garden sprinkler?  :roll:

"Problems are almost always a sign of progress."  Harold Bettes
Well, I guess we're making a LOT of progress . . .  :roll:

We are NOT rebuilding . . . We are reloading.

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #6363 on: August 19, 2017, 11:09:50 AM »

Just so there is no confusion between me and "Jack Yates Jr." . . . . . . . . .


JYJ enterprises?  The inventor of the SBF garden sprinkler?  :roll:


Well, if it sprinkled water, that might be useful.

But, since it was sprinkling hot oil, not so much.

 :? Perhaps, he could convert it to Palm or Coconut oil for a lubricant . . . . . . .

Then it could lube freshly popped Popcorn . . . . . . .     :-D


Hey, I'm tryin' here.
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #6364 on: August 19, 2017, 02:05:06 PM »
OK, I've searched the web and did not find anything that connected a Jack Yates JR. to the subject matter you have referenced.
Being a bit curious I would appreciate some enlightenment.

It is nice seeing the burner on this "K" project being turned up a couple notches.    :cheers:

Thanks, Don

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #6365 on: August 19, 2017, 03:46:17 PM »
It's a bit of an inside joke.  Don't want to out the guy too much, but he's polishing a turd. 
"Problems are almost always a sign of progress."  Harold Bettes
Well, I guess we're making a LOT of progress . . .  :roll:

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #6366 on: August 19, 2017, 10:28:21 PM »
OK, I've searched the web and did not find anything that connected a Jack Yates JR. to the subject matter you have referenced.
Being a bit curious I would appreciate some enlightenment.

It is nice seeing the burner on this "K" project being turned up a couple notches.    :cheers:

Thanks, Don

It's a bit of an inside joke.  Don't want to out the guy too much, but he's polishing a turd.  

OK.   The "Explanation".

A/  Jack Yates Jr. is a fabricated moniker.    It's a combination of the names of Jack Roush & Robert Yates, both Ford engine mavens, er, Gurus . . . . . . .

2/  The Jr part is to denote the possibility of a red-headed step-child progeny of these 2 greats.    (No women were harmed, or, even involved, in this "creation" process . . . . .)

d/  The "moniker" was created to protect the secret identity of the "terminally stupid" who, in his own estimation, "Can build an engine as good as anybody."   (This could be a subject to debate, alcohol would be required.)

z/  And finally, your web search produced zero hits.      This confirms the spread of his fame.



A recent effort from JY Jr . . . . . .




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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #6367 on: August 19, 2017, 11:01:27 PM »
Thanks for the explanation. 

I'm looking forward to the "K" coming together.   :cheers:

Don

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #6368 on: August 20, 2017, 08:55:45 AM »
Chris, minor sidetrack from your attempt to create massive HP from your collection of English scrap aluminum and steel...  :roll:  :wink:
 :cheers: couldn't stop myself after Johnboy scrapped the car... just took one sip... properly of course... no slugging or gulping.... wow, those guys know what they are doing... I will  :cheers: you with a proper couple of fingers when I get home.
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OK back to your Krazy build
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #6369 on: August 20, 2017, 09:26:30 AM »

 :cheers: couldn't stop myself after Johnboy scrapped the car...


Bob,

Sure hope John will completely recover.

 :cheers: to his recovery.

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #6370 on: August 20, 2017, 09:39:09 AM »

Chris, minor sidetrack from your attempt to create massive HP from your collection of English scrap aluminum and steel...  :roll:  :wink:


Yeah, that pretty much describes it!!   :-D

You have known him longer, WHY does he keep doing this??   :roll:

Oh, right . . . .     it's the beer!!!!

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #6371 on: August 20, 2017, 11:01:30 AM »
Mark, my guess is that Chris is sure you are the "Anne Sullivan" of motors...  :cheers:
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #6372 on: August 20, 2017, 11:10:06 AM »
Mark, my guess is that Chris is sure you are the "Anne Sullivan" of motors...  :cheers:

In many ways, you are correct - except the first word I uttered was "BEER!"
"Problems are almost always a sign of progress."  Harold Bettes
Well, I guess we're making a LOT of progress . . .  :roll:

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #6373 on: August 22, 2017, 10:30:21 AM »
Hey Chris, did Frankensprite make it out and back?
Stand on it....brakes only slow you down.

Has a checkered past.

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #6374 on: August 22, 2017, 11:29:25 AM »
Hey Chris, did Frankensprite make it out and back?

Actually, I sold it last June.

It was incredibly nuts to drive - shoot out from underneath you like a watermelon seed through your fingers - but I definitely needed my garage back.

Actually handled really well, too!

I do love throttle induced oversteer.
"Problems are almost always a sign of progress."  Harold Bettes
Well, I guess we're making a LOT of progress . . .  :roll:

We are NOT rebuilding . . . We are reloading.

GOD SAVE MG - The Queen can take care of herself!