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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7425 on: September 24, 2018, 04:25:31 AM »

Time to admit to a checkmate. 

Still no spark, although I believe I fixed the cam sensor issue.

I'll attempt to pull down a system log tomorrow and see for sure, but if it didn't start today, there's simply not enough time to get it finished by next Saturday to get on the road.

So next August will be the opportunity.


C-R-A-P! ! !


Well . . . . . .   we are just going to have to drink . . . . . .   Wisconsinably . . . . . .

For proper quantity of consumption, might need to go to:

1    Green Bay, Wisconsin
2    Eau Claire, Wisconsin
3    Appleton, Wisconsin
4    Madison, Wisconsin
5    Fargo, North Dakota
6    Oshkosh, Wisconsin
7    Missoula, Montana
8    Grand Forks, North Dakota
9    Wausau, Wisconsin
10  La Crosse, Wisconsin

I know a nice brewpub in Madison, just down the street from the state capitol building . . . . . . .

Or, maybe just McBobs.    We can crawl back to your garage from there . . . . .

Not the outcome I was counting on, sorry.

D-A-M-N!!!

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7426 on: September 24, 2018, 06:43:13 AM »
Time to admit to a checkmate. 

Still no spark, although I believe I fixed the cam sensor issue.

I'll attempt to pull down a system log tomorrow and see for sure, but if it didn't start today, there's simply not enough time to get it finished by next Saturday to get on the road.

So next August will be the opportunity.




Sorry to hear this Chris, you have to be disappointed. Your ratio of pain/frustration per CC of engine size is very high, perhaps a record! That's life when you are doing what others deemed impossible or Too Hard.

On the upside, now you will have time to get things right and thoroughly test them before Speedweek. Its a long a$$ tow out there only to have a no-start condition. How do I know this? Because I spent a week this year with Jeff Balsamo and Pitts helping them overcome an intermittent no-start condition, ( A rookie run on Sat. then did'nt get another run until Thurs.). I hope you can get some chassis dyno time to get things working the way you want. 

I enjoy the thread, although some of the discussions are above my technical knowledge.

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7427 on: September 24, 2018, 08:33:35 AM »
It's a case where I let the schedule get away from me, but looking back, what would I have done different?

Would I have been a constant PITA to Steve Dermjian on the sleeves?  No, and the reason why is because he's the best in the business, and Mark will attest to the EXCELLENT work he did on making the Darton Sleeves work.  That block came back from Steve's shop with virtually no warpage, and the sleeve install was exceptional.  It was worth the wait.

Would I have called and bitched to the guys at T&T?  I was already a pain in their sphincters, and I was a bit cranky about some stuff, but they always made me feel welcome, offering me full use of the shop, providing sharp insights and good friendship.  It would be dead wrong, beyond ungracious, and verge on immoral to point any fingers that way.

Mike Hart's machine work and engineering prowess was always timely and beyond the call.

Mel and the guys at C&S always delivered in a timely basis.

Diamond Pistons came through in a big way, and while the time it took going back-and-forth with them was frustrating on my end, I recognize as a service professional that sometimes the fastest way to get something done right is to slow down the process a tad.  Huge kudos to Diamond.

Mark's time - good lord - this thing would still be a lump of used castings in my basement if not for Mark's input.  My goal with respect to Mark, a small-bore engine specialist and who is making no bones of the fact that he's winding down his career, is to give him a truly unique, world class, high profile engine that he can hang his hat on - something he can brag to his great grandchildren about, and this build diary, a documentation of his methods and a showcase for his talents.  While the "proof of the pudding" is still in the future, it's my hope we've made huge steps forward in that department.

No, at this point, the clock ran down, and I didn't get it across the finish line.

The upside is that I've had a crash course - and I'll emphasize the word "CRASH" in this statement - but a genuinely intense crash course on EFI. 

At the end of the day - and it won't be this day - but at the end of the day, I'll be a smarter builder for it.

To everyone who has contributed comments, suggestions, encouragement, cautions, criticisms, and playful banter to this thread, THANK YOU!  If not for you, especially on days where my motivation was lacking, it wouldn't be this far along.

The Milwaukee Midget is not so much powered by an engine as it is powered by this community.  I'm humbled and proud to be a conduit and recipient of this support.

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7428 on: September 24, 2018, 09:05:26 AM »
Aw, crapola. Sorry to hear  but now you can get it right, on the dyno and have time for proper tuning and find that power! 126mph? quick calcs say you need 13%more power. Call it 115. Easy peasy.  Keep us posted. I know how hard that decision was.
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7429 on: September 24, 2018, 09:21:30 AM »
Have you ever considered coming  to the El Mirage  lakebed in Southern California ?

We have our  (two-days of racing) season ending event  November 9-10-11th, and would love to have you race with us...

Another month of sorting issues would do wonders right now I'm sure....

I hope to see this car run one day as I've been following your build for quite a while now,,,, and it is first rate...

El Mirage is about a 10 hour drive from Bonneville for scale...

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7430 on: September 24, 2018, 01:56:59 PM »
Have you ever considered coming  to the El Mirage  lakebed in Southern California ?

We have our  (two-days of racing) season ending event  November 9-10-11th, and would love to have you race with us...

Another month of sorting issues would do wonders right now I'm sure....

I hope to see this car run one day as I've been following your build for quite a while now,,,, and it is first rate...

El Mirage is about a 10 hour drive from Bonneville for scale...

Robert

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I would love to do that, and in fact, I had a plan to do so with an undisclosed SCTA member at the wheel.

I'm not an SCTA member, so I couldn't run for a record.

It was contingent upon me running Bonneville, which, of course, didn't happen.

I'd be tempted to flip the process next year - put a driver in it at El Mirage, and drag it to Bonneville - but I'm loathe to let anyone else behind the wheel until I'm confident it's right.  I'd never forgive myself if someone got hurt in it.
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Well, I guess we're making a LOT of progress . . .  :roll:

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7431 on: September 24, 2018, 03:59:43 PM »
All I can say is you worked way harder than us, for longer. Puling the pin now proves you're smarter than us and you'll have more cash in the kitty to be ready for next time.

Having said that, Fiat that fuckin fucker
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7432 on: September 25, 2018, 09:20:50 PM »
ShaZAAM! Finally getting a spark.  So the actual physical HARDWARE of the ignition is working - something I couldn't verify earlier.

The downside is that it's only working when the cam sensor is switched off in the ECU, but at least I know which end of the patient I need to dissect.

Just as long as I don't turn it into an autopsy . . .  :roll:
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Well, I guess we're making a LOT of progress . . .  :roll:

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7433 on: September 25, 2018, 10:09:52 PM »
Chris, we are bummed for you but maybe we will have the third renovation of the "Little Puke" done for Speedweek 2019 and join you.

Seems like we might owe you some brew after the sharing of the Mead.

What James said "Fiat that fuckin fucker"

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7434 on: September 26, 2018, 08:07:08 AM »

Seems like we might owe you some brew after the sharing of the Mead.


Don, you owe me nothing, but if you want to share some of the outstanding malted beverage products currently coming out of the Pacific Northwest, I'll be happy to join you in the sampling.  :cheers:
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7435 on: September 26, 2018, 08:57:25 PM »
Okay, I've kept me cool for the most part, but this pizzes me off.
Took the laptop out to do diagnostics and parameters on the ECU, and I'm looking at a blank screen!  I hear the fan and hard drive spinning away, the lights on the keyboard are working, but the screen is completely down.

AAARRRGGGHHH!!!!

PS - Posted from my cell phone
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7436 on: September 26, 2018, 10:05:34 PM »
sounds like your computer needs a hard reset....
If pushing the on/off button for 10 seconds doesn't work, then it is off to the farmer in the Dell....
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7437 on: September 27, 2018, 09:33:07 AM »
sounds like your computer needs a hard reset....
If pushing the on/off button for 10 seconds doesn't work, then it is off to the farmer in the Dell....

I took it in to work today and hooked it up to one of my rental projectors to actually see a screen.

It read about some damned "toggling" function - something I certainly don't recall hitting, but probably occurred moving it in and out of the office to work on the car.  I "toggled" it back, and now it's working fine.

It seems I've been "toggling" a lot, lately.

"Honey, I'll be out in the garage 'toggling'".

I think that's what the kids call it these days . . . :|
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #7438 on: September 27, 2018, 09:53:55 AM »
If you change chooglin to togglin is that plagiarism?  :? :cheers:

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« Reply #7439 on: September 27, 2018, 10:03:33 AM »
Interesting contrast.  I turned off Classical Wyoming Public Radio to listen to a bit of CCR.  No schizo, me!  Thanks, Mr. Woody
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